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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    “we have had to cope, as usual, with issues surrounding Covid and injuries.”
    We are not alone in that.
    “so we work towards looking at all solutions”
    Except paying off the loan it seems.
    “It makes no sense to borrow or risk the club’s future either”
    Isn’t that what you’ve done?
    “I would accept the scrappiest of games and goals, if it got us the points!”
    We need somebody to get those goals though.

    There is so much you could do, Mr Chairman, that would help to convince supporters (not all supporters obviously) of your sincerity. Over to you.

    #230161
    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    Just the same old statements and no action regarding paying off the loan, which is what is desperately needed. Always trying to shift the blame and looks like he’s starting to hint at shifting some of it onto Keith Hill.

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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    It’s actions that are needed not stupid statements about not putting the club in jeopardy by overspending. HES ALREADY DONE THAT!!!!!!!

    #230165
    SteveJobsworthSteveJobsworth
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    Same old same old, he’s on Radio Humberside at 1415 presumably for pretty much the same old……

    #230169
    IronaweIronawe
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    Slowly shift the blame onto manager.

    Retain the Covid blame.

    Repeat

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    anoldironanoldiron
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    Slowly shift the blame onto manager.

    Retain the Covid blame.

    Repeat

    I expect after eight managers people know where the problem is, there are no hiding places left.
    Everything will become even clearer when the window closes.

    #230177
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    If nothing’s changed before the window closes, how can he expect supporter dedication?

    #230180
    alcazaralcazar
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    He’s already got it from me: I’m dedicated to staying away until the odious fat man has gone.

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    #230199
    RoamingBullRoamingBull
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    I’m dedicated to stay away with another two of our family. And one has been going since the 60’s. Me since 78.

    Well done well done I say!!!

    It’s saved me a fortune. Well done Covid I can blame it too.

    Like a canoe with a handbrake!!

    Lovely day for a walk though.

    Some accolade to have though bet Jeff is laughing his socks.

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    #230201
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    It was a pathetic statement and a public relations disaster, in keeping with previous efforts.

    No apparent self awareness or acceptance of a catalogue of errors.

    The usual pass the buck mantra – it’s not my fault, its not my head of recruitments fault – it’s C-19’s fault, it’s the fans fault, it’s the players fault – it’s anybodies fault except the man making all the decisions.

    The ‘manipulation of the truth’ line was sad and comical in equal measures.

    The table doesn’t lie, the debt position doesn’t lie, and the absence of a ground doesn’t lie.

    Who needs to manipulate the truth when the truth speaks volumes.

    Just pathetic excuse after excuse.

    #230204
    IronaweIronawe
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    Just listened to the clarification and I take two things from Swann’s interview

    1 He doesn’t give a shit
    2 He’s full of crap

    As football chairmanship goes he’s just completely out his depth

    #230210
    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    Swann has resorted to PR stunts now in desperation to keep the fans off his back. He brings in Simon Elliott, making up with the Scunthorpe Telegraph, asking for fans to vote on next seasons shirt, inviting Paul Hayes to today’s match. Its all smoke and mirrors, in desperation from a complete and utter clueless clown to try and deflect any criticism from himself before today’s home match. His statements are embarrassing. When he says we can’t afford to pay the loan off who is the we. What he means is he is unwilling to pay the loan off znd would rather see us drop out of the football league. SWANN GET GONE!!!!!!!!

    #230223
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    Swann says next week is going to be a “big one” for Scunthorpe United.Do we believe him ?

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    #230227
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    He’s found a buyer has he?

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    #230228
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    Swann says next week is going to be a “big one” for Scunthorpe United.Do we believe him ?

    No.

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    #230238
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    I stopped believing what he says a long time ago. I normally analyse words and phrases but the one that he caught me out with is “if to sign players the EFL loan needs paying off then I will pay it”.

    He didn’t say what type of signing now did he ? He has signed 2 ‘new’ loan players !! They fit the criteria ‘they were signings’ so he doesn’t need to pay it off does he ?

    From a long time ago he did say he “Would leave the club in a better condition than when he arrived ‘ ! He hasn’t left yet has he ?

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    Mr Swann actions speak louder than words the problem is everything you have promised in the past you have not delivered on one thing.
    For gods sake pay off the loan and back our manager,otherwise we are 20 games away from non league capitulation.

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    #230241
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    On the contrary, it feels like the whole boardroom has deserted the club.

    The airliner that’s losing altitude so you walk to the front of the plane to find the cockpit empty.

    No one at the controls, so we’re going to crash and burn.

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    #230250
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Confirms what we all thought; He hasn’t a pot to piss in and the club will be running at cost. Couple this with our disastrous recruiting over the last few years and it’s frightening to think where we might end up.

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    #230256
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    What people are not mentioning is, is that if SwAnn did get additional funding and stepped back we would then own ground rent to him/his company coolsilk as they own the ground…we would have to pay rent to the arse hole.

    I read that Walsall’s chairman did the same thing to them and now they’re having to pay 300/400k in rent to him as he owns their ground, training facilities.

    Utter piss take.

    I bet Swannster won’t sign the ground and land over before he does one. Swann will be laughing his arse off, he’ll be doing the noble thing in his own head and stepping away and yet coaling rent money in.

    Winds me up how he says he won’t put the club in danger and yet we’re 12+ million in debt, bit too late for that. Now we need him to do something he’s playing that card, pity he didn’t take a more measured approach to start with, we wouldn’t be where we are now.

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    Can people not read on this board. For people so opinionated at least have the decency to read club statements.

    “I would step away if that external investment was forthcoming for the football club (including the stadium and land), but it isn’t as yet.”

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    #230261
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    That nearly ignores the fact he has managed to turn us into a wholly unsaleable asset.

    Riddled with debt he’s incurred, ground in hock, no playing staff of any quality, anything not nailed down worth more than a tenner sold, and destined for the national league and beyond.

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    “I would step away if that external investment was forthcoming for the football club (including the stadium and land), but it isn’t as yet.”

    Just like he said we wouldn’t sell Loft without a ready made replacement ?

    Swann also said he would pay the loan off is needed, got it put to him and he denies it and says he said it was just an option.

    Why wouldn’t we all believe old Swannster ?

    I find it hard to believe he’d sign the clubs assets over to us and not require rent money for it. Sorry but I just can’t see it.

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    I can’t understand why he can’t use the ground as security on a loan to pay off the EFL loan.

    Didn’t he tell us the reason he transferred it out of the club was because banks wouldn’t lend to football clubs? Surely now is an opportune time to benefit from this masterstroke?

    Yes, it would be risky. But so was the reckless overspending over a number of years that has brought us here…

    Presumably the difference is who would be taking the risk and suffering the potential consequences? The previous losses haven’t worked out too badly for some given the ‘transfer of assets’, but there aren’t many assets left to compensate for misjudgment now…

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    #230278
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    I can’t understand why he can’t use the ground as security on a loan to pay off the EFL loan.

    Question for Swann next time he is on the radio… Has Cool Silk used the ground as security for any other funding?

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    #230295
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    This mess is entirely of Swann’s making. He chose to appoint an inexperienced family member as chief scout, he chose to create the transfer committee, he chose to spend cash the club didn’t have chasing his vanity project of Championship football. What have all those decisions achieved? Relegation, poor squads, revolving door policy for managers, huge debt, assets being stripped, and a football club that is in crisis.

    It’s all very well spouting how the club’s debt was wiped clean by transferring the ownership of the ground and surrounding area to Coolsilk, but that debt was only there in the first place because of the way he (Swann) chose to run the club. He created the debt for the club, and the debt was owed to him!

    Swann has told us time and time again that we should trust him, but when you look at his track record, he has all the credibility of a snake oil salesman.

    This club is in a very perilous state right now. Following the rescue loan, we are now indebted to EFL so are no longer debt free. The club is operating under the restrictive policies of the EFL transfer embargo following the loan and is making a loss week on week. The chairman is refusing to stake anymore of his personal fortune into the club, and having no assets, the club has no way of securing additional funding other than relying on gate receipts, season ticket sales, merchandise, sale of assets (players), and sponsorship.

    There was a time when Swann said that the ground redevelopment would bring in the income to secure the clubs future. Now that Swann’s company owns the ground, even if the ground development was to occur (and I highly doubt that) the only one who would benefit financially from this is Swann and Coolsilk.

    Today we sit 6 points adrift of safety (this is effectively 7 if you look at the goal difference), are back in debt, operating at a loss, and have a chairman who appears to be looking for a way out. The club is in a very perilous position, and I fear that there is a very bleak future for the club.

    In short, Swann has been a total disaster!

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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    That’s a good question Bishops Finger regarding transfer of assets and funding. Could Swann have transferred the ground and assets to Coolsilk so as to use it for security for building his housing and apartments?

    #230322
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    Stopped believing anything he said several statements ago !!

    The money has been wasted for many years, it starts way back to the recruiting of Dom Vose. Then over the years how many similar other wells have money been tipped down with no hope of recovery ?

    Then add those that other clubs benefitted so well from while we got minimal reward all due to poor managerial decisions. 3 that come to mind Lyle Taylor, Kyle Wootton and Charlie Goode.

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    #230334
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    That was the fans’ fault Sanfran.

    The “worst supporters in the country” were shouting at them!

    #230362
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    One of the key points is this: it’s ok to have a small budget and to run the club “sustainably”. Plenty of other clubs do this but most of them achieve a LOT more even though they get smaller crowds. Look at Newport: they’re not exactly rolling in money, yet they were streets ahead of us on Saturday. Clubs like Cambridge, Burton & Accrington are all in League One with similar sized fanbases to our own. We could – and should – be doing so much more with our resources.

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