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    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    The security firm should refuse to cover any of our games if their staff are unable to carry out their duties as they are trained.

    If you get offended by a violent person being handcuffed you should seek help.

    Except that he conveniently misses out the fact that his employee shoved the fan back for the heinous crime of placing his hands on the perimeter gate, and in the ensuing verbals his employee called said fan a fat C U Next Tuesday. Now this doesn’t give the fan the right to swing at him but I would argue there are mitigating circumstances in play.

    Moral of the story is if you are going to take a side than make sure you have all the facts!!!

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    ….also is pushing someone back and calling them a C U Next Tuesday acting in a professional manner when dealing with a member of the public? I would suggest not.

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    Handcuffed behind the back!

    Wow!

    What if…

    The handcuffed person trips and falls face forward in to the close by perimeter wall?
    The detainee can not put their arms out to protect themselves whilst falling.
    The detainee suffers a severe brain injury.
    The detainee dies!

    What if?

    We now have our very own George Floyd type incident.

    SIA Trained Safety Stewards with handcuffs.
    What next, German Shepherd Safety Guard Dogs?

    Employing individuals as private security dictates that the “security guard / bouncer” has to be SIA Licensed.

    Imagine an unlicensed security guard handcuffs a supporter – litigation would no doubt ensue. Fines and prison are the penalties.

    https://www.gov.uk/check-a-private-security-licence

    What if he actually used his brain and not jump the wall and try punch a steward?

    His own fault if anything happens idiots like this thinking they’re Tyson Fury after a few Stella’s and sniff!

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    #234670
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    They should Pat, although there’s a difference between running on the pitch in celebration and swinging for a steward.

    100% this!

    90% of fans recently keep saying away fans run on the pitch every week but don’t get handcuffed..

    Difference is they aren’t taking swings at stewards!!

    How thick can people get?

    Jump over the wall to attack a steward you’re asking for trouble!!

    Handcuffing/Tie wrapped then they aren’t going anywhere and it only takes ONE steward to take him out instead of taking 4-5 others out the way of the other idiots!

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    #234672
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    ….also is pushing someone back and calling them a C U Next Tuesday acting in a professional manner when dealing with a member of the public? I would suggest not.

    Actually it’s a Section 5 Public Order Act 1986 charge, in normal life.

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    I wondered if there was more to the incident than met the eye, Pat. The kid who jumped the wall was certainly fired up. So it seems it was at least partially unprofessional and provocative Stewarding. Surely there is a place for agreement then… a) don’t put yourself in a place where you are confronted for breaking the rules b) if you do and don’t like the way you are confronted then don’t lose it and launch an assault c) as a club .. don’t adopt a confrontational style of crowd control that builds up over time and creates a toxic atmosphere.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    All fair points JI but there is a

    d) don’t attempt a new style of security strategy without running it past the people who run the club, or you may find, as in this case, you are told to not use that method again.

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    JI, if c) didn’t happen in the first place there’s less chance of a) and b) happening (though there will always be at least one). Would you agree with that?

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    #234766
    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    What if he actually used his brain and not jump the wall and try punch a steward?

    His own fault if anything happens idiots like this thinking they’re Tyson Fury after a few Stella’s and sniff!

    What if the steward used his brain and didn’t shove the fan in the first place? As I said earlier, get the facts before shoving your 10p in

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    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    Jump over the wall to attack a steward you’re asking for trouble!!

    Shove a fan and verbally abuse them and you are 100% asking for trouble!!!

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    What if he actually used his brain and not jump the wall and try punch a steward?

    His own fault if anything happens idiots like this thinking they’re Tyson Fury after a few Stella’s and sniff!

    What if the steward used his brain and didn’t shove the fan in the first place? As I said earlier, get the facts before shoving your 10p in

    Regardless …. he’s an idiot!!

    I’ll put as many 10p’s in as I want!

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    So facts don’t count then, how very well argued, not.

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    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    I’ll put as many 10p’s in as I want!

    I never said you could’t did I? What I said was, get your facts right first!

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    IronSteveSteve
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    I’ll put as many 10p’s in as I want!

    I never said you could’t did I? What I said was, get your facts right first!

    I never once said anything that wasn’t true!

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    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    I’ll put as many 10p’s in as I want!

    I never said you could’t did I? What I said was, get your facts right first!

    I never once said anything that wasn’t true!

    No you didn’t but you didn’t give both sides of the story either did you? Neither did your alter ego.

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    Quite funny to see the “Nun” being escorted from the stadium.
    The Abbess isn’t going to be too pleased with ‘her’ behaviour.

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    TwoWrightsTwoWrights
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    Time for the old joke.
    I asked a nun if I could kiss her, she replied yes, but don’t get in the habit! 😜

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    #235473
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    And the Baldrick one…

    My father was a nun. Whenever he was up in court and the judge asked “occupation?”, he’d answer nun!

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    A randy Friar once tried to get it on with the head of a Convent and got the reply, ” I’m having nun of it “. He sloped off with a monk on.

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