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[Iron-awe]

Awaywego wrote:

Apologies for going off piste, but did you think Will Smith actually connected with Chris Rocks face, very John wayneish Imo.

Unless they dubbed on the slap noise later, after all it is the film industry we are talking about. Spot the difference, ordinary Joe attempts a punch ( we are led to believe ) misses get gets thrown out of a public place in handcuffs. Mega celebrity slaps another celebrity in public place, walks off stage then returns twenty minutes later to receive an Oscar for his excellent work in the film industry.
Same old story, one law for the poor another for the wealthy.
Smith should have been arrested and taken into custody by the Police for assault, instead he got an Oscar.

[MK Iron]

Should we regard it as progress that rich black guys can now do as they like without consequence?

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Ferrite, Awaywego

[Deereyme66]

What’s that got to do with the thread subject matter?

[Iron-awe]

It’s progress MK that a black guy is allowed to become successful through his talent and acquire wealth as a result but black or white are not above the law, if they are then that is a regression in acceptable behaviour.

[Iron-awe]

Deereyme66 wrote:

What’s that got to do with this thread?

We are trying to get non football back in a not so discreet way.

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TwoWrights, Awaywego

[Deereyme66]

Well hopefully it doesn’t veer off in a doďgy direction.

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Awaywego

[Anonymous]

The ones with the handcuffs are all outsourced.

Better keeping control and keeping it in house.

[Deereyme66]

It probably is better but possibly more expensive? Do other clubs like ours (sic) have in house security?

[Anonymous]

The old model – police & club stewards worked for decades.

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Northumbiron, Just Iron

[Grange Lane Iron]

Statement taken from the security team at RS Security Services LTD …….

Directors Statement
Incident 26.03.2022
I am aware of the Incident which has caused some negativity from the recent pitch encroachment at SUFC.
The actions taken by my staff were Justified, Authorised, and Proportionate to the situation.
Whilst we always aim to not use force, should you physically attack our staff, we have a right to defend ourselves under common law.
The tactical option to prevent further harm to my staff, the perpetrator and the wider public was rigid handcuffs. Although not common in this area of operations it was the right option to use as opposed to physical force or heavy handed tactics.
The negativity on social media is nothing new when we carry out our duties. However those who have now chosen to target our staff personally making threats of violence towards them and their families has been reported to Humberside Police.
RS Security Services Ltd will not tolerate violence, threats or intimidation to our staff. We will fully support any prosecution raised to bring those who can’t behave themselves to justice.
Richard Short
Managing Director

https://www.facebook.com/RSSSK9

[Anonymous]

Give Mr Short and his hired heavies short shrift and reinstate the previous modus operandi for next season.

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Deereyme66

[ironlion82]

The way that Security Firm Director has put things in his statement makes it sound like he’s involved in some sort of military conflict every other Saturday.

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TwoWrights

[Ironawe]

Mr Short Dick appears to have a chip on his shoulder

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TwoWrights

[IronIronIron]

He is 100% correct though.

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BobbyGmeister

[Iron-awe]

Well Richard Short let’s hope you have heeded the announcement of the people who employ you and your staff on match day at Scunthorpe United FC who have stated on their own website that such an occurrence of a member of the public being handcuffed within the ground will not happen again. If it does happen expect your contract at Scunthorpe United FC to be terminated as you will be in breach of the club owners wishes. Your company may well face prosecution as a result of such action IMO.

[Awaywego]

Go on the link Ironlion82 and go through his photo’s, he has more rifles than you can shake your fist at,sub machine guns, rocket launchers that wouldn’t be a miss in Ukraine, and if that fat bastard is him lifting the weights I will let Ironawe1 have the first pop. lol.

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TwoWrights

[Anonymous]

Iron-awe wrote:

Well Richard Short let’s hope you have heeded the announcement of the people who employ you and your staff on match day at Scunthorpe United FC who have stated on their own website that such an occurrence of a member of the public being handcuffed within the ground will not happen again. If it does happen expect your contract at Scunthorpe United FC to be terminated as you will be in breach of the club owners wishes. Your company may well face prosecution as a result of such action IMO.

An ex-police officer, 36 years of age.
Director at two companies at the moment.

RS SECURITY SERVICES LIMITED – appointed Director 10th November 2016

PHANTOM TRAINING LTD – appointed Director 6th March 2022

Previously a Director with:

RS AUTO RECOVERY AND REPAIR LIMITED – appointed Director 8th March 2021. Resigned 25th July 2021.

BLUELINE SECURITY LIMITED
Correspondence address – KEMP HOUSE 160 CITY ROAD, LONDON.
Appointed 1st July 2018
Resigned 20th July 2018

https://www.bluelinesecuritylimited.com/

[Anonymous]

Richard has it 100% spot on. End of.

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BobbyGmeister

[Iron-awe]

Don’t care who he is or what he’s been if a member of his staff handcuff another fan in the ground then the club should kick them out due to not carrying out their duties in the way the club has requested. End of.

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Deereyme66, TwoWrights

[Anonymous]

The security firm should refuse to cover any of our games if their staff are unable to carry out their duties as they are trained.

If you get offended by a violent person being handcuffed you should seek help.

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BobbyGmeister

[mistertonmick]

I don’t think security guards can handcuff anyone unless they are a danger to others or themselves, and it is a citizens arrest, certainly hope we don’t see that again.

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North Lincolnshire Irons

[Anonymous]

Mick if someone was throwing punches at you would you class them as a ‘danger’?

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BobbyGmeister

[Iron-awe]

Anonymous wrote:

The security firm should refuse to cover any of our games.

Yep correct they should be binned by the club, there is no need for handcuffs unless the Police deem them necessary and in football grounds they have never needed to be used and don’t need using now. The club sets the agenda for the firm’s they employ as matchday security and if the firm employed cannot conduct themselves as instructed they should be kicked out and get some proper professionals in to do the job as requested properly.

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Deereyme66

[mistertonmick]

Didn’t say he didn’t, just that is the only way they can use them, but totally against it.

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waltersleftfoot, Siderite

[Anonymous]

Would you be against it if it was in the High Street?

[mistertonmick]

I would expect the Police to do it, it is their job

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North Lincolnshire Irons, waltersleftfoot, Iron-awe

[Deereyme66]

UTI99, in my opinion your approach to this issue is dogmatic and would only add fuel to the fire. This is bigger than this particular incident on Saturday and it’s in the club’s best interests to view the situation holistically and take action that reduces the risk of it happening again. In my view that would be to end the contract with the current suppler and tender for a firm that understands crowd control at sporting occasions and would mitigate the real possibility of it happening again. The club can ill afford to lose any more support and goodwill at this time.

I don’t agree with Short’s statement here either:

‘Although not common in this area of operations it was the right option to use as opposed to physical force or heavy handed tactics.’

‘As opposed to physical force or heavy handed tactics’!!?? I wouldn’t like to see what they do deem as physical force or heavy handed tactics! Whatever next?

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Iron-awe, waltersleftfoot, mistertonmick

[IronIronIron]

They acted professionally, as they were trained to use them and they did so. Nobody got injured in the process, so job done.

In my day a copper would have given the lad a slap with his truncheon and then beaten him up in the van on the way to the nick.

Times change.

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BobbyGmeister

[Deereyme66]

The whole point is that the job could have been done a lot differently and a lot better. Like UTI99’S approach, your similarly dogmatic approach isn’t a progressive one, and if the security firm continue with it, it will only lead to further problems down the line.

[Anonymous]

The club has taken a stance with its statement.
The security company now have to tow the line.

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Iron-awe

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