Sportstalk Special 6pm

[CMC]

On Radio Humberside

(Hopefully they won’t mention rugby for IFA and BS)

[Siderite]

An interesting listen so far. One interesting thing I have heard from Stuart Maw is that he feels like it’s the death today. I get that, but it’s interesting in that I had that two weeks ago and now I am left with sorrow now. The anger has gone and it wasn’t unexpected for me.

The stuff he said was deluded, but I feel for those who have been conned.

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[CMC]

Next one was worse
We spent beyond our means in the Championship?
We sold our best player in years ffs!

[Rene Artois]

Alarm bells were ringing before the ‘dossier’ was published on The Fishy forum.
Afterwards the death knell was sounding!

[Siderite]

I don’t blame anyone for believing and hoping for the best, but among the sensationalist stuff, the multitude of failed businesses were real red flags. From that point I was wary, and my concerns only grew, especially as such concerns were not met with understanding from Hilton, but derision.

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[64]

some people have been awful to and about Stuart, he’s a good guy and a good fan

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[Deereyme66]

Agree with what Tony Gosling said about Swann being a position to allow the club to stay at GP. No idea how realistic that is but hope he’ll listen to someone he respects and do the right thing.

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Cliff Byrne's Right Peg

[Deereyme66]

Just thought, Scott Laird to reach out and act as mediator?

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Ferrite

[North Lincolnshire Irons]

Yes I don’t see why The Iron Trust shouldn’t get involved and try speaking to Swann, you never know what can happen surely it’s worth a try. Hilton should be gone as I don’t see anyone wanting to negotiate with him.

[Ferrite]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Agree with what Tony Gosling said about Swann being a position to allow the club to stay at GP. No idea how realistic that is but hope he’ll listen to someone he respects and do the right thing.

Hard to know what Swann’s strategy would be: clearly he wants Hilton out and will look to put the ground on the market again but without the club, what value does the ground really have? I would imagine its redevelopment value is less than its value for a going concern football club?

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lesgeo

[Apollo11]

… what value does the ground really have? I would imagine its redevelopment value is less than its value for a going concern football club?

None. The only value is to SUFC. Safe to assume that the stadium will be worthless and redundant when the club goes bust (soon). The redevelopment value of the land GP is on is far higher without it there, and that is the key thing. Swann or whoever buys the whole land package will see that it is razed.

[Ferrite]

Apollo11 wrote:

None. The only value is to SUFC. Safe to assume that the stadium will be worthless and redundant when the club goes bust (soon). The redevelopment value of the land GP is on is far higher without it there, and that is the key thing. Swann or whoever buys the whole land package will see that it is razed.

Yeah I realise that but would the price for that be higher or lower than the famous £3m? Given the work involved in demolishing the stadium, preparing the land, all the planning, etc.?

[Apollo11]

would the price for that be higher or lower than the famous £3m? Given the work involved in demolishing the stadium, preparing the land, all the planning, etc.?

The cost of demolition etc would be accounted for, and I imagine there would be a ‘demolition discount’ built in to any sale – but the land package value without the club there is significantly higher.

[Ben]

The only value Glanford Park and the surrounding land has is to the football club and its supporters. I think that Swann will see Hilton leaving as one more obstacle in selling to the highest bidder out of the way.

It would be good if the Iron Trust or even the council could raise the money somehow to buy it (I think we have gone past the point of ransom strips etc) and then go from there.

[cassidystash]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Agree with what Tony Gosling said about Swann being a position to allow the club to stay at GP. No idea how realistic that is but hope he’ll listen to someone he respects and do the right thing.

Finding somebody Swann respects could be the most difficult task.

[Ferrite]

Ben wrote:

It would be good if the Iron Trust or even the council could raise the money somehow to buy it (I think we have gone past the point of ransom strips etc) and then go from there.

Did they ever exist?

[Apollo11]

Finding somebody Swann respects could be the most difficult task.

To appeal to Swann’s better nature will take a concerted effort by a multi-agency party, imho. Iron Trust, Council Leaders, MP, Ian Botham (?) etc.

[Apollo11]

Did they ever exist?

It would be, at this point, good to hear a statement from Peter Swann relating his side of his dealings with Mr Hilton. We got the one earlier in the year but I think another is crucial at this point.

[Northumbiron]

It will just be another abandoned football stadium. Only of interest to junkies and doggers!

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[Deereyme66]

Half our supporter base?

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[Yorkshire Iron]

CMC wrote:

Next one was worse
We spent beyond our means in the Championship?
We sold our best player in years ffs!

I was the next caller, and I didn’t claim we spent beyond our means in the Championship, I said that I felt, looking back, that we spent beyond our means under Swann with our ambition to get out of League 1. Yes, we sold our assets after the Rotherham defeat, but the damage was already starting to unravel.

[Ferrite]

Yorkshire Iron wrote:

I was the next caller, and I didn’t claim we spent beyond our means in the Championship, I said that I felt, looking back, that we spent beyond our means under Swann with our ambition to get out of League 1. Yes, we sold our assets after the Rotherham defeat, but the damage was already starting to unravel.

We spent beyond our means trying to GET to the Championship under Swann. By the time we lost to Rotherham in 2018, most of the famous £11 million debt had been accrued with the absolutely ridiculous spending on players.

[Interested Bystander]

64 wrote:

some people have been awful to and about Stuart, he’s a good guy and a good fan

I have watched his videos and he does come across as a decent individual but his views and opinions are without foundation.

The harsh reality is that without people like Stuart in this World, those who are intent on deceiving and defrauding people would have to look for an alternative career.

At some point, he will need to address inadequacies in his own judgement but that doesn’t appear to be any time soon.

[Iron-awe]

I’m sure when Stuart finally addresses the point of Hilton stopping funding the club he will probably say the fans chased him out the club and he had no choice but to stop. I hope one day he can see the reality for what it really is, it took me long enough before the penny dropped and apologies to anyone I gave a hard time to on here. You know it doesn’t matter how old you are you never stop learning and sometimes the hard way.

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[lesgeo]

Time for the council to move in to acquire a genuine local asset at a real knock down price. What they would choose to do with it – I could not possibly say.

[64]

Unfortunately les , years of right wing government has taken any spare cash away,

[Rene Artois]

Lottery funding should purchase it and donate it to a SUFC CC (community club).

If they can prop up opera, theatre, ballet, museums etc… then why not the national sport?

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lesgeo

[Apollo11]

Lottery funding should purchase it and donate it to a SUFC CC (community club).

There might be some mileage in this idea.

[Deereyme66]

Nice idea. Someone would need to apply to them, probably best via The Trust. It would probably fit best with The National Lottery Fund (formerly Big Lottery) though I’m not sure there is a programme of funding for anything like it. A lot of pubĺic benefit would need to be demonstrated and its a highly competitive process. Never say never though.

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