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    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    Apple crumble cheesecake ffs. Who’d have ever thought you’d see that being sponsored.
    Start spending some of the sponsorship money starting with the men’s bogs in the Dre like walking through a bog the amount of piss on the floor.

    When i read the food n drink sponsorship for the up n coming shindig with the chair i had to do a double take and immediately thought of this thread.. there must come a point where the sponsorship crusade has to slow and fade (until next season)yet as i type the bog seats remain un sponsored and up for grabs thos tho the though of wading through all that piss to cut the ribbon isnt appealing.

    On a slightly different light hearted note super fan and all round good egg Stuart Maw is auctioning his SUFC watch currently a bid of 5p is taking it as no reserve mentioned so get in there guys ..i am fully expecting future auction items to include a pair of his match worn underpants signed front n back which should get snapped up and framed for posterity.

    Joking aside I do find it a tricky scenario, short term gain, cheapening of a product with a lack of long term strategy (and no doubt needed to settle debts) v a tempering of the need to sponsor everything, the commercial manager should take care of the product being offered, there comes a tipping point in the strategy (or lack of) that other things get forgotten whilst rushing around for money. By rights the grove wharf stand should’ve been closed on the opening home game, no lights and no running water in the toilets. Getting a local company to sort stuff like that out for a few match tickets is sound business. Charging £20 to read out a message for a young fan is commercially reckless, and when you chase the money like that you might treat those less able to offer financial support more dismissively.

    Totally agree …

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    #291209
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    Amongst other efforts (season ticket, cup match tickets, shares, extra donations etc) I’d personally be more inclined to support the club through buying merchandise if it wasn’t such absolute fucking tat. The company producing the merch may be able to operate the printing machines etc but they have very little artistic or design merit. Some of the stuff churned out looks bloody awful.

    #291214
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    IFA imagine you’ll be in trouble for mentioning ‘match worn underpants’ my post got deleted for mentioning a woman’s sanitary product and didn’t even say Used.

    #291216
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    IFA imagine you’ll be in trouble for mentioning ‘match worn underpants’ my post got deleted for mentioning a woman’s sanitary product and didn’t even say Used.

    when and by who?

    #291217
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    By me a week or so ago following a complaint. Awaywego didn’t mention it also contained a reference to Michelle in there. I’d have probably ignored it but the complainant made a good point and it did sully the forum in my opinion, making reference to Michelle in such a way.

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    #291218
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Michelle’s panty liners v Stu’s match worn underpants sexism at its worst

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    Michelle’s panty liners v Stu’s match worn underpants sexism at its worst

    This kind of humour represents a race to the bottom.

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    #291220
    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    Michelle and those around her have thrown everything at stabilising the club financially. The debt is still not cleared. Nobody has to sponsor anyone or anything. Maybe the ‘cashing in’ to current goodwill smacks of a bit of desperation but I’m cutting them as much slack as I can. They’ve earned it. That’s why I bought a season ticket knowing I could only get to 13 or 14 games. Some of the above seems a bit unappreciative of all that’s gone before to me.

    #291221
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    More complaints from some regarding present club actions than they had under WHAM. You couldn’t make it up.

    #291222
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Present club actions.
    1. Inflation busting season ticket price rises
    2, failure in their promise to increase the lottery jackpot, and to do a weekly prize.
    3,change the 50/50 draw into a £500 maximum prize money.
    4, Added cost for families at home fa cup matches
    5, increased the non playing staff
    6, partnership deal with a internet company that is scarring landscapes with unnecessary telegraph poles
    7, partnership deal with a company charging £30 pounds yes £30 pounds for a signed photo of a national league north player lol.
    8, stopping fans from going in the executive lounge after the game ( which is still costing the club money as not all have returned after their U turn)
    Cant understand why there are any complaints can you.

    Probably missed some out if I think of any more I’ll let you know.

    #291223
    IronIronIronIronIronIron
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    Present club actions.
    1. Inflation busting season ticket price rises
    2, failure in their promise to increase the lottery jackpot, and to do a weekly prize.
    3,change the 50/50 draw into a £500 maximum prize money.
    4, Added cost for families at home fa cup matches
    5, increased the non playing staff
    6, partnership deal with a internet company that is scarring landscapes with unnecessary telegraph poles
    7, partnership deal with a company charging £30 pounds yes £30 pounds for a signed photo of a national league north player lol.
    8, stopping fans from going in the executive lounge after the game ( which is still costing the club money as not all have returned after their U turn)
    Cant understand why there are any complaints can you.

    Probably missed some out if I think of any more I’ll let you know.

    You really are a sad old man.

    Do you spend all day trying to get upset about things that are not important?

    If everything is as bad as you make out (which I don’t believe it is), then why bother “supporting” the club?

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    #291224
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Which actions aren’t correct, 6,7, could be a matter of conjecture but the rest?

    #291226
    Iron414Iron414
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    Whilst your list may be true AWG, I believe that board have acted with the best interests of the club at heart, in terms of trying to boost income and raise as much cash as possible to clear the debt mountain and we shouldn’t criticise too harshly.
    For me their biggest mistake make so far is the failure to appoint a proven manager and settling for the budget option when perhaps a little more should have been invested into what’s arguably the single most important part of our entire operation. Though in their defence, I’m sure they were guided by Lee Turnbull, head of our recruitment, who is lucky to still be stealing a wage and our latest recruits are proving why he’s well past his sell by date.

    #291227
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    1. Inflation busting season ticket price rises

    The correct perspective for your first point is: A season ticket still represents exceptional value. The price per match is significantly less than if you just turn up and buy on the day, so very good despite an increase in cost.

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    #291228
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    2, failure in their promise to increase the lottery jackpot, and to do a weekly prize.
    3,change the 50/50 draw into a £500 maximum prize money.

    Ultimately, you don’t actually have to enter these competitions / draws. And if you do, and you win, your winnings will be a lot higher than your stake. So in the end what’s the big issue?

    Re: the lottery. Perhaps at the current time the take up has not been significant enough to actually make an alteration to the jackpot without busting the club’s margin?

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    #291229
    ironfromafarironfromafar
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    Whilst your list may be true AWG, I believe that board have acted with the best interests of the club at heart, in terms of trying to boost income and raise as much cash as possible to clear the debt mountain and we shouldn’t criticise too harshly.
    For me their biggest mistake make so far is the failure to appoint a proven manager and settling for the budget option when perhaps a little more should have been invested into what’s arguably the single most important part of our entire operation. Though in their defence, I’m sure they were guided by Lee Turnbull, head of our recruitment, who is lucky to still be stealing a wage and our latest recruits are proving why he’s well past his sell by date.

    Possibly a tad harsh on AB and cant fault what Michelle and the Board have and are achieving …otherwise a true and accurate assessment especially re LT .

    I tend to treat the sponsorship sales in a more light hearted manner , it does smack of piss taking but collecting the donors dosh and smiling is great if they are happy to part with it for the latest sponsorship gig Mr Sparks / the Club dream up and manage to get over the line then take it no arms is being twisted or family held to ransom…im sure the hard working Mr Sparks must fly up in the middle of the night and write ideas down such is his diligence.

    I fully understand the need for the current sponsorship crusade though am hoping the strategy will at some point ease when the club is debt free and back on a sustainable footing

    The business community of Scunthorpe who have and continue to offer goods and or services FOC or for match tickets deserve a mention as much as the sponsors and im pleased to see for the most part they do also the marvelous volunteers.

    Dare i say im waiting to grab Stu Maws claret n Blue match worn Y fronts at any price,a quick rinse and make a lovely shade sail for my tomato plants.

    UTI

    #291230
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    With all your moaning awaywego, I’m surprised Xxx isn’t here giving you flak like he / she does when others are moaning. Actually, I’m not surprised at all :)

    #291231
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Re: The lottery Apollo. If Darlington are paying out a jackpot of £1000 per month with a further eight prizes of £50 on the back of only charging £5 per month there’s something seriously wrong with our payouts.
    You can go back through my history and you’ll find no bigger supporter of the start up of it, but their failure to take it forward is a disgrace imo, sure in theirs there happy with what it brings in and can’t be arsed to do anything else.

    #291232
    IronIronIronIronIronIron
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    I didn’t say they were wrong Awaywego. I said they are not important.

    As others have mentioned, you don’t have to get involved as they are not compulsory.

    The Club is still recovering from the previous owners. They are making great strides in ridding us of debt, and should be applauded for doing so. Nobody’s forced in to sponsorship, but if there are people willing to do so then bring it on.

    A bit of positivity goes a long way.

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    #291233
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    The fundraising and sponsorship development should be applauded, and ignored if you’re not interested in taking up the opportunities. It really is that simple. Picking holes in these endeavours is something I wouldn’t care for our dedicated staff to see. Talk about demotivation.

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    #291236
    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    Yep … as above. 100%

    #291237
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    The more initiatives the better. Not all of them will be liked by some so people can choose what they want. Whatever helps the club is good.

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    #291238
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Maybe hold fire on new initiaves and try and get the ones we do have right and fair.

    #291239
    anyoldiron79Richard Ballard
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    Sorry I must be missing something, I thought the idea of the lottery was to raise money for the club? If I won I’d donate my winnings back to the club, simple as that, so the size of the prize money is irrelevant surely?

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    #291245
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    If Darlington are paying out a jackpot of £1000 per month with a further eight prizes of £50 on the back of only charging £5 per month there’s something seriously wrong with our payouts.

    You’re judging our club’s financial acumen by somebody else’s. I’d suggest our prizes are reasonable wins and if Darlington are into paying out a grand a time there’s something wrong with theirs!

    #291256
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Having read the article on fanbanter about Liverpool and West ham fans protesting,and the Football supporters association coming out with much the same.i say to ‘My’ club
    “Stop exploiting loyalty”

    #291257
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    Ask not what your club can do for you, ask what you can do for your club. Or summat like that.

    #291258
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Having read the article on fanbanter about Liverpool and West ham fans protesting,and the Football supporters association coming out with much the same.i say to ‘My’ club
    “Stop exploiting loyalty”

    If we were as financially viable due to mega bucks run premiership clubs then I may have agreed with you but we aren’t so stop making stupid comparisons. As for exploiting loyalty well if that’s how you see it then as many have said before , you aren’t duty bound to pay anymore than you want to.

    #291259
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    It’s for all clubs not just mega bucks clubs Macclesfield to name but one last season many other lower league clubs this season including us, (14% for me 50% for the grandson)
    If you want to see the game you have no choice but to pay, were not Kier Starmer with the freebies.
    Cant see why you object to the football supporters associations “Stop exploiting loyalty” phrase and campaign to address the situation.

    #291260
    IronIronIronIronIronIron
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    It’s for all clubs not just mega bucks clubs Macclesfield to name but one last season many other lower league clubs this season including us, (14% for me 50% for the grandson)
    If you want to see the game you have no choice but to pay, were not Kier Starmer with the freebies.
    Cant see why you object to the football supporters associations “Stop exploiting loyalty” phrase and campaign to address the situation.

    You’re really good at reading things into other people’s posts (or should I say, making things up?). IA did not say that he objected to that phrase.

    I suggest you read posts properly before you respond. I also suggest that you read yours again before you post them. Things may settle down for you if you do.

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