Splashing the cash

[IronIronIron]

TwoWrights wrote:

IronIronIron wrote:

Could always try getting a mortgage on the lease of GP. He wouldn’t be the first football club owner to actually do it.

Except he doesn’t own GP.

Hull City Council own the MKM stadium lock stock and barrel. Russell Bartlett, previous owner, used the lease on it to get a £3.4m loan from RBS which he shuffled around holding companies, as well as paying himself a million quid in wages. Easy peasy when you’re a property developer!

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We still don’t know if we’ll even be playing at GP next season. Swann says no, Hilton say yes. Is there a lease???!

[Interested Bystander]

TwoWrights wrote:

IronIronIron wrote:

Could always try getting a mortgage on the lease of GP. He wouldn’t be the first football club owner to actually do it.

Except he doesn’t own GP.

Hull City Council own the MKM stadium lock stock and barrel. Russell Bartlett, previous owner, used the lease on it to get a £3.4m loan from RBS which he shuffled around holding companies, as well as paying himself a million quid in wages. Easy peasy when you’re a property developer!

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Another wrong ‘un who ended up a bankrupt and in prison for his conduct.

[WonderGoals]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Okay, think I’ve got it: ‘worry not…if we don’t…if he can’t manage’..etc

An interesting take on ‘certainty’ if nothing else. Think it’s called spreading your bets. However you don’t seem too certain about Dean.

Who is really certain on Dean after last season ?. Since he came in we got worse and it truly all went down the pan. I still think we’ll do it this season as we have the squad.

The little bit of uncertainty I do have is with Dean. I have belief in the players due to the quality we’ve brought in to play at this level.

[ironfromafar]

WGs i really hope Jimmy comes good but as Awaywego suggests now Butler is in the wings if JD does fook up ..
Can see maybe one or two more signings but to this point no one can complain about the intent shown by DH and well done to wh ever sourced and git the newbies to cone to Scunny.
From being down n depressed from.last seasons debacle seems there is hope and optimism
Also mentioned if the side is performing well and winning decent crowds should be the norm as any fan craves good entertaining football plenty of goals n winners

UTI

[KeadbyIron]

OPINION: Iron must aim for sustainability as optimism grows ahead of new season

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[Deereyme66]

Very thoughtful and balanced piece which Mr White has responded to in a fair amount of detail…on Facebook.

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KeadbyIron

[sufc_not_on_tour]

I’ve just had a look on the Facebook page, I’m not a Facebook user but it allows you to read it but obviously not reply.
I read the 1st paragraph of Hilton’s reply, I got to this part….
“ I think people would be quite surprised in respect of our level of playing budget and the lads are far more interested in the project than the money”
I didn’t read further as I don’t believe a word of that statement!
If it is true then we must’ve found the only professional football players in the entire world who aren’t interested in what they earn.
That’s my opinion, if anyone disagrees I’d be interested to read your view.

[cassidystash]

What you say is ‘important’ versus what actually is ‘important’. No doubt there’ll be a bit of badge kissing in evidence too.

[Awaywego]

Not being tech savvy I guess I’m that’s what I do lol, I thought I must have clicked on something to join Facebook, that’s really good then, everyone can look but still maintain they don’t do Facebook, is it the same for Twatter?

[Ferrite]

TwoWrights wrote:

Hull City Council own the MKM stadium lock stock and barrel. Russell Bartlett, previous owner, used the lease on it to get a £3.4m loan from RBS which he shuffled around holding companies, as well as paying himself a million quid in wages. Easy peasy when you’re a property developer!

The question is: does Hilton own a lease on GP, at this stage?

[Interested Bystander]

Ferrite wrote:

TwoWrights wrote:

Hull City Council own the MKM stadium lock stock and barrel. Russell Bartlett, previous owner, used the lease on it to get a £3.4m loan from RBS which he shuffled around holding companies, as well as paying himself a million quid in wages. Easy peasy when you’re a property developer!

The question is: does Hilton own a lease on GP, at this stage?

Given the uproar on here when I dared to suggest that I felt that the Safety Advisory Group were not in a position to grant a safety licence for GP given to dispute over the freehold, I am surprised there hasn’t been a queue of people lined up to answer your question. How does Scunthorpe United Football Club Ltd arrange for public and employer’s liability cover if they have no legal right to be at GP?

[Ferrite]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Very thoughtful and balanced piece which Mr White has responded to in a fair amount of detail…on Facebook.

Telling people exactly what they want to hear has also been a successful approach to PR.

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TwoWrights

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I see no insight just the only response he can give once he decides to give one,it was just about written by the initial post

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I personally don’t like him focussing on Facebook as his message will get the Chinese whispers treatment by the time it gets out

[Deereyme66]

Ferrite wrote:

Deereyme66 wrote:

Very thoughtful and balanced piece which Mr White has responded to in a fair amount of detail…on Facebook.

Telling people exactly what they want to hear has also been a successful approach to PR.

True. When I said ‘a fair amount of detaìl’, I meant fairly lengthy for him in a Facebook post. I’m not commenting on the substance of the text. It was also a reference to my criticism of him using Facebook and that particular group in a seemingly exclusive manner

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Ferrite

[qwerty]

Who in authority has said SUFC have no legal right to be on GP land?

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Nobody,what do you mean by authority?
White or whatever he is called stressed he had a lease yet his actions suggest otherwise , putting up signed , locking gates to keep the “owner” out . Funny thing is they locked the gate and I just saw a car from the shopping center try to get out , so I guess the other gate is open

[qwerty]

So why would there be any issue starting the season there if no one has ruled otherwise? If we are issued with an eviction notice and refuse then I can understand the points made.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Maybe Swann is too busy preparing for his legal battle with Apollo bookmakers to focus on evicting us. If they take him to the cleaners we might get the ground for 1.5million as Hilton suggests it’s worth.

[lesgeo]

I’ve long wondered, CB, whether DH might actually want GP – were a lower price to appear on the table.

[TwoWrights]

Interested Bystander wrote:

TwoWrights wrote:

IronIronIron wrote:

Could always try getting a mortgage on the lease of GP. He wouldn’t be the first football club owner to actually do it.

Except he doesn’t own GP.

Hull City Council own the MKM stadium lock stock and barrel. Russell Bartlett, previous owner, used the lease on it to get a £3.4m loan from RBS which he shuffled around holding companies, as well as paying himself a million quid in wages. Easy peasy when you’re a property developer!

Another wrong ‘un who ended up a bankrupt and in prison for his conduct.

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Wrong owner, he’s never been jailed, you’re perhaps thinking of Stephen Hinchliffe. He who bunged a banker over 800k so his bank gave him an unsecured £13m loan, as you do. Fit and proper owner, and so it goes on.

[Iron-awe]

You mean IB has got some of his 100% actual evidence wrong 😲 no no no all his posted information is triple checked for accuracy, we all know what a genuine reliable source of accurate information IB is, you’d better apologise TW.

[Pat O’Cake]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

I didn’t read further as I don’t believe a word of that statement!

Further evidence that a bloke cannot win, he keeps quiet and he’s accused of keeping fans in the dark, he speaks out and is accused of lying!

[sufc_not_on_tour]

Pat O’Cake wrote:

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

I didn’t read further as I don’t believe a word of that statement!

Further evidence that a bloke cannot win, he keeps quiet and he’s accused of keeping fans in the dark, he speaks out and is accused of lying!

Oh dear Prat O’ Cake, you’ve excelled yourself this time by using a quote taken completely out of context to suit your own agenda.
You appear to have this strange fetish not dissimilar to a deranged stalker of following me round the forum and wanting to pick needless fault with any post I make, only succeeding in making a fool of yourself.

[Deereyme66]

The Cult of Dave works in mysterious ways 🤣

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[Pat O’Cake]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Pat O’Cake wrote:

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

I didn’t read further as I don’t believe a word of that statement!

Further evidence that a bloke cannot win, he keeps quiet and he’s accused of keeping fans in the dark, he speaks out and is accused of lying!

Oh dear Prat O’ Cake, you’ve excelled yourself this time by using a quote taken completely out of context to suit your own agenda.
You appear to have this strange fetish not dissimilar to a deranged stalker of following me round the forum and wanting to pick needless fault with any post I make, only succeeding in making a fool of yourself.

Prat O’Cake ha,ha! I bet you thought that up all by yourself didn’t you?? Who’s a clever boy then?

As for agenda, I believe the dictionary definition is….. a list or outline of things to be considered or done. So not really sure what you’re on about with that.

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