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November 9, 2020 at 3:16 pm #197213
Maybe Cox didn’t sign the players but he thanked the chairman for getting him Turan and Hippolite , who he says caused Notts County lots of problems last season …. Cox was a decent defender as was Wilcox with Preston and ourselves,,,, surely they should be able to improve these defenders and teach them the basics,,,, the goals we are conceding are a joke ,,,,
November 9, 2020 at 11:43 pm #197230Now we are getting a repeat of the statement about our inexperienced player, so are we being led to beleive that all these other crap teams in League Two are brimming over with experience ??, I do not think so, there are about six good teams in our division, but we cannot beat any of the poor one’s, as an example to fans that are backing Cox afrer one win in 13 matches, Mansfield were just like us, but hadn’t won a game this season, they sacked their manager and first game with new boss, won away at Sunderland at the weekend, you just cannot let our situation go on and on without any action, it is so bad in our club, this only has one ending, give him another month and we will be so far behind others, excepting probably Southend.
November 10, 2020 at 12:57 pm #197245The job is a poisoned chalice !
November 10, 2020 at 1:03 pm #197246I’m genuinely interested in the thought process behind anyone who looks at the outcome of the last half a dozen manager sackings & thinks that sacking another manager will make a positive difference this time.
November 10, 2020 at 1:18 pm #197248lower league football clubs usually sign a side that can compete in the league they are playing in, plus 2 or 3 that are good enough when needed, they then have a few bench warmers that can come on for a few minutes or play if the club has injuries.
Scunthorpe United have signed a side that can’t compete in the league they are playing in, they have 6 or 7 that are good enough for the league but are either injured or not doing enough in training, they also have a few more that can make the numbers up.
who’s fault it is I have no idea but the responsibility is with the Chairman.
November 10, 2020 at 2:06 pm #197252Two good posts above.
Ferrite is right. On past form it doesn’t matter who the manager is, the end result is the same. So unless it is someone special (no, not him) who we can’t afford to employ, what is the point?
MM is bang on the money too. Our senior squad and the U23s (that everyone was getting excited about a year ago) are now indistinguishable from one another. It’s a right mess!
If Cox did ask Swann for some of the later signings then one must question his judgment too. As Matt said on the latest podcast, it is all down to the summer recruitment.
November 10, 2020 at 2:13 pm #197253We signed Jim Lumby from Brigg Town,Mick.
My Dad watched every game he played when his fabulous partnership with Brian Bloomer lead them to win the Title that season.One of the most enjoyable seasons my Dad had watching a non-league team! Up there with the great Monty Brown team at Gainsborough Trinity.November 10, 2020 at 2:51 pm #197254I appreciate that the squad is very poor, but there are probably about 8 of them that could make up part of a team that could probably hold their own in League Two, but the fact is that we cannot beat any team put in front of us, what do we do, just let this carry on???
I am long enough in the tooth to know that the main problem at the club is the Chaiman and his fellow board menbers, but surely if Cox cannot do anything with the squad, he should hold his hands up and state just that. But who ever haS signed Hippolyte, Loft, Turan and Condner and expects any of them to be League Two players is a bloody idiot, Hippolyte and Turan are not even Brigg Town standard.
As stated, it is not really the managers fault, but it is the choice of manager where the blame lies, and it happens time after time, if the manager is sacked, it is up to the Chairman to appoint someone that can do the job, he does not do this.
November 10, 2020 at 3:27 pm #197255I did say, I think, Bill.
November 10, 2020 at 3:39 pm #197256The last days of the Third Reich, the Fuhrer kept dismissing his general’s because they weren’t winning the war. He had no idea about logistics, troop movement, defensive and offensive actions or even the number and quality of materiel left but he was the leader, he did amazing things with great resources available to him 1936-1942 he was on the cusp of breaking Moscow (in the championship back then) but inexplicably turned south to Stalingrad and abandoned one if his great generals rather than allowing him to control his own forces, from that moment on he had lost but his control became ever tighter removing anybody with experience or expertise in matters of war…,,
November 10, 2020 at 3:44 pm #197257I have a theory that, at this level, the difference between a rubbish team and a title-winning team can just be having players who make a difference at each end of the pitch.
A really good keeper or centre-back and a really sharp (or Sharp?) striker and you can go from bumbling along to beating all-comers.
These difference-makers are so important because, ultimately, there is not much to choose between most teams at this level. So if you have a player who can take more chances than is normal or someone at the back who can stop more than is normal, you’ll turn a 0-1 defeat into a 1-1 draw or a 1-1 into a 2-1.
Who do we have that fits that bill? Van Veen? Possibly but I still think he’s best at making others look good rather than being deadly in front of goal. Eisa? Ditto. At the back? There aren’t really any candidates.
November 10, 2020 at 4:15 pm #197259” it is up to the Chairman to appoint someone that can do the job, he does not do this.”
Depends on what you think ‘the job’ is barton. If the job is to do as you’re told and do your best with the players you’re given then he seems to be getting it right.
November 10, 2020 at 5:19 pm #197265The defensive mindset is the underlying toxic problem which has seen our deterioration.
Managers seemingly all fall into this same trap. The reason why is unfathomable without resorting to wild conspiracy theories.Normally, pushing forwards means that you are defending in the opposition half but slow-thinking defenders have admittedly made that difficult this season.
Even so, the more time spent defending – the more time to allow ever more balls into our box. Even a good defence would be troubled.
I cannot believe where we keep our back defensive line. We are not especially vulnerable to defence-splitting passes – happily – so why defend so deep?
We are still trying, very foolishly, to get 10 outfield players behind the ball at set pieces.
Leaving our fastest forward on the halfway line means opposition have to leave two back as they can’t risk a one on one.
Two outcomes. One is the opportunity to launch counterattacks. The other is to have an extra man when defending.
If Fallon sees it so clearly, why do our management team not get it?I was interested too by Newey’s comments on ‘lazy defending’. Wild challenges instead of interposing self between forward and the goal. Proper tracking of forwards needs a great deal of work in training.
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