Going by what has been suggested. I can’t see it being too far away.
Seriously though, what did Swann expect ?.
Swann and the other people who make up the terrible transfer committee, managed to assemble a the most shoddy squad pf playersin a hell of a long time, pre appoints a captain who we all know is a perma crock and then signs an inexperienced manager to somehow turn a team full of kids and non league misfits to something even close to resembling a football side.
The mind boggles. Swann has really pushed the boat at this time. This is why people who know nothing about football shouldn’t involve themselves in signing players. Now we have a ridiculously poor, extremely large squad when funds were already been stretched with no fans through the doors.
If we manage to somehow get ourselves out of this mess, we’ll have to be lucky to say the least.
This is why chairman should sign off on players and not try their hand at anything else. This is what happens.
How many times has Swann been questioned over this transfer committee….he clearly can’t help himself.
I would have some sympathy with Cox who’s been dealt a crap hand.
Pre purchased players
Key players long term injuries
Covid issues.
However he has brought in some of his own players although he has not helped himself with his selections, formations and tactics, Where’s the fast flowing attacking football he talked about, perhaps he didn’t realise how crap his squad was when he made the statement.
Oh for the days of Hayes and Hooper, every now and again I watch a little clip I got off here off Hooper banging in the goals. (It was done by Griffiny)
Wouldn’t want Pochettino just a nearly man, Bottled it when Leicester won the title, didn’t turn up in the European cup final. One of our ex manager’s record is better, he won things and knows the lower leagues, and just so happens to be available at the moment. But honestly let’s just give Cox a couple of seasons, and stop all this talk of another sacking.
For the first time in 45 years I have lost interest in the club I have supported since I was 7 years old, (I know they need my support and I did purchase a season ticket) And like most people on this site I have seen the ups and the downs of the club.
I have been there through Applying for re-election, winning promotion, getting relegated And four Wembley visits but never before have I seen the teams put out by The club as they have this season that looks totally uninterested as the one we have now with the exception of 2 or 3 players.
We also seem to take highly rated players and make them look useless by playing them out of position or not playing them at all, all in all our club as gone backwards in such style that no one would be surprised (and many are backing us) to get relegated to the conference.
The club needs new blood from the very top to the very bottom! Which in these very uncertain is very nearly impossible.
I don’t believe sacking people every season is right but the are times when certain people are not capable of doing the job they are given, Wether that’s the chairman, manager, coaches, or players something has to change ASAP or the very real prospect of non league football will be reality.
I would love The staff at the club to reignite my interest and passion for it and I will gladly without hesitation hold my hands up and say I was wrong, So please, please Make me regret writing this post and if I do I will be as they say over the moon.
I can’t remember that message even being worded like this, did he alter the message because I can’t recall it saying that.
If not, I fear I may have lost my mind.
Could I get a job working alongside the transfer committee down at GP, I’d probably fit in !
I read it and all it meant was they are recording it today while everyone isn’t happy rather than the following day when they had calmed down, I hope Neil Wright is on it. No mention of sackings what I read.
I’ve got to admit this is worse than the dark days of the all red strip, at least they gave their all in those days and we weren’t averaging 3 goals a game against at home and rarely putting the opposition under pressure.
Jim Lumby was a great lad and him and Kevin Kilmore used to give me tickets at away games one season, he also had played 30 odd games for the Cods before we signed him from Gainsborough Trinity I think, he also got a few goals for us and played for Carlisle and Tranmere after us, Greeny wasn’t a bad player either and we sold him and eventually brought him back, Steve Earl wasn’t bad either being local lad but sadly died at the age of 48, we have had some good players come through the youth system here but this year our signings have been bizarre, and Lee Turnbull told me a couple of weeks ago he is angry and embarrassed what has happened at the club this summer.
we might find out soon vader, Matt Blanchard asked me to ask him if he would do a podcast and he was reluctant when he was at the club, I gave Matt his number and he promised he would think about it, Matt asked me a couple of weeks ago if I thought he would do one now so I asked him and he has promised to do one when he is a bit less angry which has pleased Matt because he has been at the club a number of years and he is a very funny bloke and has told me he has got some interesting stories of past managers etc, so we will wait and see.
This thread is just a carry on from the one that I started just before the Solihuull match. And I am sick of supporters saying “who is there to replace Cox,” the job wants advertising, not just a random cheap ex employee, lets just forget our Byrnes and ex players, unless we can pay out a bigger salary and get either Adkins or Beadrie, it would be worth it to get a guy that can possibly get results. The method of getting ex players has been well tried and tested with knill, Wilcox, Dawson, Cox, and the guy just sacked by Salford. As stated last week, Mr Swann should seak advise because although he appears to have a good record in business, he gives the impression he knows very little about selecting and employing football managers, a job advert would bring forward possibly 30 guyswanting the job, it is then up to Mr Swann to interview most of them with a couple of football experienced people who could advise owho to go with, but please do not just rely on family!!!!!
I am 100% certain that this “transfer committee” does not work…it’s failed at Scunthorpe for successive seasons and has resulted in us going from a League One play-off contender to a team struggling to avoid relegation out of the football league. It’s an experiment that has failed and needs to be binned immediately.
I feel for Neil Cox, or any manager of the team right now, staying up looks like a near impossible task. Our only hope is that those who return from injury have enough in them to carry the squad.
I was the first to call relegation from League One and was the original “moron”…the only reason I haven’t called it yet this season is that there are a some of key players missing. Mark my words though, if this team doesn’t improve dramatically over the next two months we are most certainly in a full on relegation battle, and I doubt we have the ability avoid the inevitable.
I have never, EVER, felt so worried about the future of Scunthorpe United FC than I do right now!
I am sick of supporters saying “who is there to replace Cox,”
So who is there? We’ve tried umpteen ex players. Knill – another who was brought in to play a crap hand. Got little backing, left and is currently a PL assistant manager. Laws/Wilcox – ’nuff said! Alexander – did what he’s done at every club he’s managed ie do great for eighteen months then start pissing about. Dawson – why? Now Cox/Lillis – just like Knill, forced to play a crap hand in the middle of a global pandemic BUT with no previous experience as a No1.
And those with no previous connection to the club. Robbins – I guess in hindsight he did okay. And he’s proved since he can get a team promoted from L1. Baffling how he caught the same disease as Wilcox and Alexander! McCall & Hurst – experienced, but not only did they yet again have to deal with some poor committee signings but with decent players who were throwing a strop! Neither were given enough time with their own players. Hurst clearly fell out with the Big Boss. Never a good idea at the SVS.
Mr Swann should seek advise because although he appears to have a good record in business, he gives the impression he knows very little about selecting and employing football managers,
But he seems very good at employing yes-men who are happy to take on the players the committee selected from agents recommendations. The same managers who are happy to get sacked with a pay-off just to get away from the club. I expect this to be repeated ad infinitum whilst the present regime is in place.
An experienced hard-man type manager to give them the hairdryer treatment? I think Swann would throw that CV straight in the bin!
No good spraying the leaves for greenfly if the roots are rotten!
Surely if they were yes men we would have seen attacking football, only a fool would think Swanny tells the manager you must play boring football with one up front, but you must get results or I will sack you. No it is the managers ego’s they just think they know best.In Hurst we saw something different he was building from a low base and was just starting to get some were, hopefully as our better player’s return Cox will play a more expansive game.
only a fool would think Swanny tells the manager you must play boring football with one up front
Of course; but if you have to utilise the players Swanny has sourced and they are either injured or not up to the job then that’s what happens.
If your CMF are defensively minded or the type who prefers to play a safe backwards or sideways ball, then strikers have to come deep. If your defenders are inexperienced or bullied by a big CF then the MF drop even deeper. If the keeper is inexperienced and prone to error – well you get the idea! If you can’t get out of your own half things are going to get boring. Then when your best players are wingers but you bring then inside to compensate for the lack of creativity in CMF and have to use square pegs in round holes as makeshift wing-backs then it is a huge, huge gamble.
Sure the head coach is ultimately responsible for this but if the assembled squad is inexperienced and unbalanced (which it is) some blame has to be levelled at the people who brought them to the club in the first place.
A lot has been posted on the spine of the team and the fact that instead of signing four crap strikers we could have had one or two decent ones. All valid points and all about the make up of the squad.
All we’ve done is recruit from non-league and at the moment that looks like where we’re headed.
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