Simon Elliott

[backofthenet18]

Why were people booing him when his name was read out before the game?

[lesgeo]

Why indeed?

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steelworks iron

[Siderite]

I suspect it’s people aggrieved by his verbal backing of Hilton, berating sceptical fans for not backing him and no apology. I didn’t boo, think he should be given a chance to redeem himself, but I didn’t clap him like the others.

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SODIron, backofthenet18

[lesgeo]

I learned pretty early on that Hilton was bad news. I still lent him my support as, at the time, I could see no alternative other than liquidation.
(It turns out though that there was an alternative – yipppeeee!)
What else could Simon have done and still kept informed about the situation?
The guy loves the Iron as much as anyone who posts on Bru. There really is no need to have some people vilifying him.

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Just Iron, inspector

[Siderite]

I think not berating fans for failing to get behind him would have been a start.

[Apollo11]

Siderite wrote:

I suspect it’s people aggrieved by his verbal backing of Hilton, berating sceptical fans for not backing him and no apology. I didn’t boo, think he should be given a chance to redeem himself, but I didn’t clap him like the others.

He’s a politician and a chancer, always has been – positions himself wherever the power is so that by standing next to it YOU will think he’s big and important.

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Siderite, sufc_not_on_tour

[inspector]

I agree with you, lesgeo. Leave Simon alone. He’s done so much for the Club over the years.

[inspector]

I disagree vehemently. He is not a politician. He is straight. Why can’t supporters simply get behind the Club?

[ironfromafar]

Simon Elliot is obviously Scunny through n through and i thank him for the hard work he has put in at whatever stage it happened , i would not boo or cheer him but offer my gratitude ..

IMO his stance has always been one of positioning for the future enough said.

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inspector, Just Iron

[Apollo11]

inspector wrote:

I disagree vehemently. He is not a politician. He is straight. Why can’t supporters simply get behind the Club?

Of course he’s a politician. Do you really think turning up at JD’s hospital bed and taking a selfie for use on social media was anything less than campaigning and self-promotion?

[Apollo11]

ironfromafar wrote:

IMO his stance has always been one of positioning for the future enough said.

Positioning the club, or himself?

[ironfromafar]

Apollo11 wrote:

ironfromafar wrote:

IMO his stance has always been one of positioning for the future enough said.

Positioning the club, or himself?

Himself ..so hes in the right place at the right time to facilitate his involvement at the club.

At times running with the foxes n the hounds it appears its turned out quite well for him .. and in truth im ok with that so long as the club survives.

[Apollo11]

ironfromafar wrote:

Himself ..so hes in the right place at the right time to facilitate his involvement at the club.

At times running with the foxes n the hounds it appears its turned out quite well for him .. and in truth im ok with that so long as the club survives.

So we’re in agreement, then – about his methods at least. My concern is that he doesn’t really care whether it’s fox or hound, as long as he’s running – and seen to be running. That will (already has, in fact) resulted in some poor choices being made. I think other people have said elsewhere on Bru, at the very least he owes apologies.

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Awaywego, Siderite

[Northumbiron]

I was really hoping that this petty minded bickering would have stopped.

Appears that some people just can’t help themselves.

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inspector, Just Iron, lesgeo, BigLeftToe, MK Iron

[Siderite]

I have no qualms against Elliott on the board, hope he succeeds and has learned his lesson in siding up to questionable figures. I think aggrieved feelings were somewhat inevitable after months of derision for so much as questioning Hilton, including from Elliott himself. In time it will probably fade away.

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Deereyme66, SODIron

[Apollo11]

Northumbiron wrote:

I was really hoping that this petty minded bickering would have stopped. Appears that some people just can’t help themselves.

I’m not bickering, and I’m not petty minded.

Moving on in unity is fine. But we can still be in disagreement over issues, and we can hold nuanced or conflicting opinions on the people involved. Moving on in unity actually just means everyone being focused and intent on reaching the common goal – in this case, the survival of our football club and it remaining in its home.

I have merely been stating my opinion, which is based on observation: Elliott behaved questionably – and arrogantly – towards supporters who expressed legitimate concerns. He has some apologising to do.

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Siderite

[Awaywego]

Well tuther side was asking for unity for the last 9 months and all they got in the main was derision on here, “arse lickers site” I’m glad I can unite behind all the owners we have had even Simon and Ian, all be it for only a couple of weeks with them. Then their fair game to have a go at at which I have taken every opportunity since.

[Siderite]

The other side’s call for unity was for people to forgo concerns and unite behind a dodgy owner, while slagging anyone off who disagreed and abusing them. They shouldn’t have been called ‘arse lickers’, but they were hardly shrinking violets just wanting respectful discussion.

My own position was that those who supported Hilton were doing it because they thought this was what was best, and still were fans, yet the other side saw disagreement as proof you wanted the club dead. Somehow the problem is with the former view.

[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

Well tuther side was asking for unity for the last 9 months and all they got in the main was derision on here, “arse lickers site”

They may have been using the word unity but they were asking for compliance and for red flags to be ignored.

[Awaywego]

But plenty have concerns already on Elliott, Ian, and Turnbull, and they get slagged off, goes without saying me included, one mans terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, Hitler managed to unite a nation and look what happened there hopefully no lives will be lost at Scunny lol.

[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

But plenty have concerns already on Elliott, Ian, and Turnbull, and they get slagged off, goes without saying me included, one mans terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, Hitler managed to unite a nation and look what happened there hopefully no lives will be lost at Scunny lol.

I think the club is in relatively safe and steady hands, and that is a good thing. That doesn’t mean I think we are in the promised land, and there are a couple of variables it will be interesting to see play out. I don’t trust in Elliott’s motivations. You could see what he was about the day he inserted himself in the Wembley ’99 reunion side for that charity match at GP.

[Siderite]

I don’t know why we need to bring Hitler into it. My whole point has been that we are fans, no matter the view of those involved with the club. We can be united in respecting that fans have differing opinions, but want what’s best for the Iron. That was missing from one side, in particular, with Hilton and it wasn’t this site or Hilton sceptics, by and large.

As for Elliott; I have said more than once that I have no issue with him as director. He’s not immune from critique and critique doesn’t mean hyperbolic arguments about wanting him out.

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Deereyme66

[Apollo11]

Apollo11 wrote:

You could see what he was about the day he inserted himself in the Wembley ’99 reunion side for that charity match at GP.

… and, of course, when he ambulance-chased Jimmy Dean and got a hospital selfie for his socials.

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CMC

[MK Iron]

Could we just leave the bickering and the search for a new bogeyman for a week or two?

I don’t know Simon personally but it is blatantly obvious he cares about our club passionately. Unlike most of us anonymous experts he has got off his arse and tried to help. With Sharp he tried to put a better option on the table and was knocked back by Swann. He didn’t throw his toys out of the pram but tried hard to support what was the only option once Hilton took over. With hindsight we now have many who claim to have known Hilton was a wrongun from day 1. Shame none of them spoke up at the fans forum.

Nothing is resolved until the ground is secured and Swann has nothing to do with the club. It would be good to keep the unity thing going until that is sorted at least.

While I am at it I want to apologise to IB who was actually was giving out warnings about Hilton pretty much from the start. I questioned his motives a number of times but whatever his motives actually were his warnings were substantially correct.

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inspector, lesgeo, TheJuryeffsOut, Cliff Byrne's Right Peg

[Siderite]

This is why I thought Simon should have apologised. There will be grievances from some quarters after he derided fans. Like I have said, unity goes both ways. Elliott needs to make amends. I am happy for him to do so, but understand some will be irritated after his conduct.

[Apollo11]

Siderite wrote:

This is why I thought Simon should have apologised. There will be grievances from some quarters after he derided fans. Like I have said, unity goes both ways. Elliott needs to make amends. I am happy for him to do so, but understand some will be irritated after his conduct.

Exactly this.

He will feel “being Simon Elliott” and being part of the new era is amends in itself – but it’s not, is it?

[ironfromafar]

MK Iron wrote:

.While I am at it I want to apologise to IB who was actually was giving out warnings about Hilton pretty much from the start. I questioned his motives a number of times but whatever his motives actually were his warnings were substantially correct.

Yes me too .. whatever his motives IB was spot on re Hilton and on the odd occasion i may of been a tad obtuse towards him and his posts ..for that IB i apologize.

[BigLeftToe]

Siderite wrote:

This is why I thought Simon should have apologised. There will be grievances from some quarters after he derided fans. Like I have said, unity goes both ways. Elliott needs to make amends. I am happy for him to do so, but understand some will be irritated after his conduct.

Isn’t him helping to pull people together, those people with a real passion for the Iron, to literally save the club from the grasps of an irrational fraudster making enough amends?

We’ve still got a club to watch and support and he’s part of the reason why. That’s enough making amends for me.

[Siderite]

I agree that this was good and credit him for his effort. I think in terms of fan unity he can improve. It will probably ease off once the dust settles. There was anger towards Turnbull after his comments at the end of Swann, and I wasn’t happy about it, yet most have moved on now. Myself included. It will be the same with Simon if he knuckles down, doesn’t aggravate fans as before and does his job as director without fuss.

I don’t dislike him or think it’s beyond him. I understand that he has done some good. I realise that many supported Hilton. However, they weren’t so intertwined, and many have apologised and recognised the situation. Credit to MK Iron, and others, who have done this. There’s no point holding grudges for backing Hilton when fans thought it was in their best interest, and recognise that con men have a knack for fooling people. I just wish Elliott made some effort in saying sorry after shoring Hilton up with his presence and I do think it was for his own interests.

Anyway, that will be all. Nothing new to say. I move on and look forward to football under the new owners. I think, in time, these niggles will abate.

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Apollo11

[Apollo11]

Siderite wrote:

I agree that this was good and credit him for his effort. I think in terms of fan unity he can improve. It will probably ease off once the dust settles. There was anger towards Turnbull after his comments at the end of Swann, and I wasn’t happy about it, yet most have moved on now. Myself included. It will be the same with Simon if he knuckles down, doesn’t aggravate fans as before and does his job as director without fuss.

I don’t dislike him or think it’s beyond him. I understand that he has done some good. I realise that many supported Hilton. However, they weren’t so intertwined, and many have apologised and recognised the situation. Credit to MK Iron, and others, who have done this. There’s no point holding grudges for backing Hilton when fans thought it was in their best interest, and recognise that con men have a knack for fooling people. I just wish Elliott made some effort in saying sorry after shoring Hilton up with his presence and I do think it was for his own interests.

Anyway, that will be all. Nothing new to say. I move on and look forward to football under the new owners. I think, in time, these niggles will abate.

I agree, I think things will fade in time – which is why it’s important to say it loud now before it disappears and is forgotten. Elliott was arrogant and owes apologies.

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