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May 10, 2021 at 12:48 pm #206659
Maybe I’ve missed it but I can’t see any other recent thread about Cox’s future on here.
Given how bad things are at the club right now I can’t see many potential managers beating a path to GP but there will always be someone out there seeking a challenge — and a job.
So, should Cox be sacked?
May 10, 2021 at 12:53 pm #206660Without a doubt he should be gone today.
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May 10, 2021 at 12:59 pm #206661I don’t think so at the moment but if he hasn’t learnt from this season it will quickly become apparent at the start of next. Then,only my oppinion,he would have to be replaced and pretty smartish. With hopefully fans in attendance this past seasons rubbish will not be put up with and feeling will be expressed I’m sure in no uncertain terms.
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May 10, 2021 at 1:16 pm #206663He hasn’t learned anything this season playing the same old rubbish week after week. Sorry time is up.
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May 10, 2021 at 2:08 pm #206668Whoever recruited that shower of shite last summer should be sacked!
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May 10, 2021 at 2:10 pm #206671Sacking Cox would only be a sticking plaster. Wouldn’t deal with the main problems.
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May 10, 2021 at 2:33 pm #206674If he has to go then it must be now. It’s still unclear how much input he and previous managers had in player recruitment. If he goes 10 games into the new season then we’ll be back to square one (again) with a new manager and a squad full of players that aren’t ‘his’ together with a chief scout that maybe he doesn’t want.
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May 10, 2021 at 6:06 pm #206685Needs to be gone now,if not next year we are relegation certainties.
May 10, 2021 at 6:06 pm #206686Deckchairs and Titanic. Is he worthy of the job? Doubt it very much but he isn’t the problem. The reason the club is such a shambles lays at one door. Normal circumstances Cox will be given 10 games into next season but will be gone after that – the different dynamic now is the chairman doesn’t give a shit anymore
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May 10, 2021 at 6:28 pm #206689Not sure. I don’t think you can say he kept us up. More like Grimsby and Southend let us off the hook. Would we want to be keeping him had we been relegated?
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May 10, 2021 at 7:23 pm #206693It’s clear he isn’t tactically good enough to prosper even at this level. That much is quite clear.
A manager doesn’t oversee 10+ games in which his team have 1 shot or less on target if they’re any good.
I know the squad is questionable but his tactics or “lack of” is just as worrying.
Let’s face it. Cox didn’t have a clue how to overcome the problems and sounded lost in post match interviews.
If Cox is to stay around. Lillis needs binning off and Cox needs an activate assistant manager to fall back on. What I mean by active is somebody who’s still involved in football, not somebody dragged from a care home who hasn’t even been involved in football for about 7 or 8 years.
Ideally I’d get rid of him and Cox but if Cox is to stay, Lillis needs to go. Lillis was brought here as an attacking coach to work with the strikers and we are where we are now.
No point in him being here.
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May 10, 2021 at 9:30 pm #206694The obvious answer is most certainly yes. I know he was dealt a shit hand, and he’s had an absolutely horrendous time with injuries (But which Scunny Manager over the last 20 years of so hasn’t had that part?!) However countless Managers across every Division has been sacked over the years while performing much, much better.
Unless the plan is to continually hope that each season there will be at least 2 teams that are somehow worse than us and we can keep escaping by the skin of our teeth (Which I’m sure we’d all agree is an extremely risky strategy!) Then he needs to go, and go now in order to give the new guy the best possible chance to make sure we don’t have another train wreck of a season like we’ve all just had to endure…2 users thanked author for this post.
May 10, 2021 at 9:56 pm #206695You’d have to wonder exactly what quality of candidate we could attract if we did sack Cox.
May 10, 2021 at 10:05 pm #206696yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no manager has ever been in charge of any football league team that has played any worse than this term of Scunthorpes. He has set the team up to play 100% defensive, boring, shite that has been un-entertaining and un-enjoyable throughout the full season, starting with eight defeats, and ending with one win in seventeen boring matches, and scoring three goals in their last ten matches, yes ten matches, and the clown and his two assts are still drawing their wages, and will be carrying on the same shite next season, because it must suit Swann for the team to be where they are for some reason, could being the owner of the ground and land have any influence????
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May 10, 2021 at 10:08 pm #206697You’d have to wonder exactly what quality of candidate we could attract if we did sack Cox.
Please ask yourself Ferrit, does it really matter who takes the job, they cannot be any worse, I am wondering if Swann junior could do it, now he has made such a good job of being head scout.
May 10, 2021 at 10:49 pm #206698Honestly what’s the point in sacking Cox. We do the same thing very time and expect a different answer! The problem this season was a recruitment strategy of multiple players that wasted most the already cut budget without involving the manager.
Personal, I think Cox had one job this season and that was to keep us up and he did it albeit by been very slightly shitter than 2 other terrible terrible teams.
Next season I expect him to implement his ‘attacking’ football and improve the entertainment. If we give him the summer and some time to build a team then I will judge him on his team next season.3 users thanked author for this post.
May 10, 2021 at 10:52 pm #206699*Tactically inept
*Played players who couldn’t give a shit and were always leaving… week after week
*No idea on what attacking football is
*Doesn’t stretch the pitch with wide players
*Awful from set pieces attacking & defendingShould have been sacked ages ago!!!
But I absolutely agree the problem is the owner! We’ve had good managers and they’ve failed because this set up makes it impossible to succeed…
so in a nut shell… fu*k it, stick with cox and in a years time we WILL be national league and renting a ground!!!Absolutely disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 11, 2021 at 8:31 am #206703You’d have to wonder exactly what quality of candidate we could attract if we did sack Cox.
There will be managers out there who would take the job, BUT!
They would no doubt want some control over who they bring in, and we all know that’s unlikely.
Our managers are merely the counter staff at a branch of Ratners!
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May 11, 2021 at 9:28 am #206708I believe (but I’m not certain) that there are rules preventing a football club owner also being the manager. Can anybody think of a way to get around any such rule?
May 11, 2021 at 9:32 am #206709There will be managers out there who would take the job, BUT!
They would no doubt want some control over who they bring in, and we all know that’s unlikely.
Even if they didn’t, you’re unlikely to be shopping at the top of the new manager market. Even ambitious non-league managers are going to wonder whether the 90th best team in the league is the right place to come to.
May 11, 2021 at 9:58 am #206711I am still not keen on sacking a guy who has been given far too many sows’ ears to turn into silk purses.
It wasn’t too many weeks ago that he admitted that his attempts at playing a number of systems were failing because the players were not good enough.
I think that I may believe him.May 11, 2021 at 11:03 am #206716My vote is no.
What would have been the point in sacking Sooty and Sweep, when Harry or Matthew Corbett was still running the show?2 users thanked author for this post.
May 11, 2021 at 12:20 pm #206718Even ambitious non-league managers are going to wonder whether the 90th best team in the league is the right place to come to.
Agree to an extent, but as it’s been pointed out Morecambe and Stevenage were in our position last year and have done better this time around (particularly Morecambe).
What would have been the point in sacking Sooty and Sweep, when Harry or Matthew Corbett was still running the show?
And Soo holding the purse strings?
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May 11, 2021 at 3:08 pm #206728I am still not keen on sacking a guy who has been given far too many sows’ ears to turn into silk purses.
It wasn’t too many weeks ago that he admitted that his attempts at playing a number of systems were failing because the players were not good enough.
I think that I may believe him.Yes Les, the players are not good enough to be pressing for promotion, but this league ghas been very poor as you know, but when Cox stated that the players were not good enough, did he make any reference to the management team that have been in charge for FOURTY SIX MATCHES, and we are ending the season playing worse than ever defensive boring bloody football.
After a few defeats, and a few games into the season, people were saying give him ten matches, then still bottom of the league they changed it to twenty matches, and you do not want me to remind you it has now been 46 matches, and what makes anyone think next season will be any better ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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May 11, 2021 at 3:22 pm #206729The real question is not should Cax be sacked but, who in their right mind would take on the role of Manager at Scunthorpe United with the current set-up?
I cannot see there being a long list of credible applicants to take over from Cox. We avoided relegation by the skin of our teeth, the manager has no say in the club transfers, and the playing budget for 2021/22 season will be very tight.
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May 11, 2021 at 3:59 pm #206731Someone out there would be keen to take it on even though they knew they would only be likely to last six months. The thing is if they were that desperate would they be any good anyway.
It does seem however the prawn is sticking with Cox although Keith Hill is available, sacked after guiding Tramere to the playoffs, funny old game football!
May 12, 2021 at 1:19 pm #206798What I mean by active is somebody who’s still involved in football, not somebody dragged from a care home who hasn’t even been involved in football for about 7 or 8 years.
His age has absolutley nothing to do with his ability as a coach, As the likes of Roy Hodgson, Harry Redknapp & Carlo Ancelotti to name but 3 have proved. As for having nothing to do with football for 7 years, he has been caretaker manager of Huddersfield Town on 3 occasions and coached in India in that time.
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