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  • #195496
    FerriteFerrite
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    “During an arrest attempt, an officer was assaulted and sustained injuries to his face and damage to his glasses.”

    Statement published by South Yorkshire Police. Don’t think it’s really up for debate.

    Putting aside the fact that South Yorkshire Police famously always tell the truth in their statements, what is the point in having a courts system if we’re going to just assume that all allegations are true?

    #195498
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    Quite right Ferrite. It is for the Court to decide on the verdict and the punishment.

    The football world is awash with young men who have committed criminal offences. The Iron have had their share. Colclough is not the first.

    The question that should be asked is what should the club do if the charges are upheld?

    “Bin him” to “get another high earner off the books”.

    OR

    Support him through this crisis in his life.

    #195499
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    Does seem that alcohol is an issue. Hopefully Cococ will ask and get professional counselling help for this.

    We have seen how good he CAN be we have witnessed the other side where he brings nothing to the team.

    The certainty is what a tragedy in unfurling.

    #195500
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    it probably hasn’t helped him here being left out in the cold by different managers and possibly needs someone to put faith in him to turn his head straight, a bit like people with mental health, confidence in yourself is massive and I know from personal experience if you get the feeling as if the world is against you depression takes over and some turn to drink or even worse.

    #195502
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    I think the fairest thing would be to give him the same level of support in adversity that he has shown the club.

    #195504
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    It is the worse I am concerned about MM. Something obviously triggers the self destruct button. Sincerely hope he can get the help.

    #195505
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    Fair comment ‘tash, but have we seen this side of him because of the issues he has?

    The incident in question took place in June. That’s over three months ago, yet according to the club they have only just found out.

    Imagine the mental stress of hiding an assault charge from your employer.

    #195507
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    Clearly there are some valid points raised about his personal problems and the mental anguish he may be going through as a result and one wonders if maybe being a full time professional footballer is not the best occupation for him. There are a lot of pressures within the game and many have been well documented over recent years, perhaps a part time playing role in non league and a career in coaching might be a less stressful path for him. I know he is still young at 25 but if the pressures are too great and cause his personality to flip now and again maybe he’s better considering his options rather then being full time. Just a theory.

    #195508
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    So why try and hide it knowing it would surface eventually, surely better to come clean immediately. Any club investigation would have been concluded before football resumed, you would think, and then he’s only got the trial to worry about.

    #195509
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    Perhaps that is one of his issues Cassidystash. Can’t see it so it doesn’t exist.

    #195510
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    I was told on Twitter yesterday you don’t need to tell your employer if you get arrested but personally being a footballer you haven’t just got the manager and chairman to deal with, the EFL etc will probably get involved if proven guilty, but you get the impression he must have problems or attitude but he isn’t the first player here to have had issues in the past.

    #195511
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    He isn’t the first player full stop mick not just here. Some high profile players in the past have made national headlines, Merson, Adams, Best etc so it’s the ability to handle the pressure of the professional game at whatever level that is a good point of discussion. I guess some people just can’t hack it for whatever reason but the high profile players tend to get more attention and as a result usually more help. In the case of our man he may get help if he needs it but I will be surprised if he gets kept on if found guilty. Smacking a copper, not a good look on your CV.

    #195512
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    Swann needs to support the lad and get him back on the pitch after all he’s not the worse player at the club by any means. It’s not a new situation for Scunthorpe they’ve been there before and supported the player concerned who went on to serve us well because he had something to prove.

    #195516
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    Got no view on Colclough and have sympathy for anyone who makes a mistake like the one he’s accused of.

    But, rightly or wrongly, the world has moved on since Matt Sparrow was jailed and in 2020 anyone in a professional job who is convicted of assaulting a police officer gets sacked by their employer.

    #195521
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    I can’t believe what I’m reading. This is a player who clearly has a bad attitude and has done very little for us…couple that with the fact he more than likely has an issue with alcohol and he acts like an irresponsible idiot off the pitch.

    As cassidy stated, he should have fessed up and told the club what the hell was going on. This doesn’t reflect well on the club.

    Look up what he did at Crewe, he got pissed as a fart then and climbed a tree taunting police officers even back then.

    All this “oh he has issues”..you’re right he has but he’s clearly not done anything to rectify them. I think giving up alcohol might be a start and knuckling down and working hard to give something back to the fans may be another thing he could/should have done.

    “Imagine the mental stress of hiding an assault charge from your employer”

    You taking the Michael Northumb, or are you being serious ?

    There’s being understanding and then there’s just being plain daft.

    #195522
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    “All this “oh he has issues”..you’re right he has but he’s clearly not done anything to rectify them”.

    Have you considered that might be the biggest issue of them all?

    #195524
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    He clearly has issues and perhaps underlying issues that need addressing. If that’s the case then it would be good if the club helped him with that rather than simply sacking him. He’s very talented. It would be a shame not to try and help him sort his issues out to help fulfill his promise. I’m sure the club are better placed than anyone on here to deal with the situation once they have all the facts and investigate the problems he has with him

    #195529
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    You taking the Michael Northumb, or are you being serious ?

    I’m asking a serious question – what do YOU think the club should do?

    #195532
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    I for one would like the club to help him out, granted I do not know the full details but a bit of faith in him would hopefully see him on the right track and perform to his ability. He’s done wrong but if he takes on board his punishment surely he can be rehabilitated.

    #195533
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    Three things:-
    1. He didn’t learn last time
    2. The club supported him through a serious, long-term injury.
    3. He has done precious little to repay that support. Minimal interest when picked to play in the months before the incident (and since) and reportedly requested a transfer in January.
    Has he earned further support – you decide.

    #195534
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    2. The club supported him through a serious, long-term injury.

    As you would hope and expect any employer to do if one of their employees is hurt in their place of work.

    #195535
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    Since when did being accused make you guilty?

    #195538
    FerriteFerrite
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    Since when did being accused make you guilty?

    Don’t you read the British press?

    #195539
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    2. The club supported him through a serious, long-term injury.

    As you would hope and expect any employer to do if one of their employees is hurt in their place of work.

    How would you expect the employee to respond?

    #195540
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    No doubt the club will support him as best they can. However, we’ve seen plenty of cases like this before, where wayward young players in need of support just don’t get it from managers who are themselves under pressure, and who don’t have time to get alongside and effectively ‘social work’ footballers, because there’s a ton of other things they have to do and they could themselves be unemployed within a month. And, how many managers has he had while he’s been here?

    Course, you could say ‘if others can behave, why not Colclough?’ but that would be missing the point.

    #195542
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    It has to be said,footballers do have a much better support network than people in similarly small businesses,we even have a club vicar. Sacking him just isn’t an option,unless he has a specific clause in his contract,being arrested and convicted is in itself not a stackable offence.
    Most people seem to think it’s Innocent until proven a footballer although we usually deny it in our own,Colclough being denied that luxury why?

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    Sack the vicar? Why, what’s he been up to??

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