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    Bartoniron66Bartoniron66
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    Now that the dust has settled on a truly awful performance on Saturday
    I was thinking how unlucky Rory actually is! I know there has been others threads regarding him but he must wonder what he has to do as scunny’s no1 keeper.

    Two weeks ago people were saying the defence had turned a corner and Rory put in a commanding performance against tranmere, two games later he has conceded 6 goals and only one I think he could maybe have done better with. (which was Exeter second)

    He is surely one of the most unluckiest keepers we have had! when he was struggling everyone blamed him when for the bad results, he worked really hard in the summer and really improved his kicking and catching the bilson comes in and looks like Rory is again no2 first game he gets injured and Rory is back in again.

    Keep going Rory keep training hard and i’am sure you will be rewarded, we then need to get the defence back to some sort of unit that trusts each either and hopefully we can see the clean sheets again.

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    FerriteFerrite
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    From what I’ve seen, I think he’s one of the few success stories of this season. He’s made some crucial saves to earn us points in some matches and has not been to blame for the way the defence has fallen apart in recent weeks.

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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Agreed. Done hardly anything wrong thus far and worthy in my eyes to keep the number 1 jersey.

    Shame it’s such a shitshow elsewhere because this possibly could’ve been a good year for him.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    I can’t fault him either. Watson, along with Beestin, Hippolyte, Pugh, Thompson and Jarvis to a lesser extent have been the only bright spots for me. Manny has done ok but apart from that, all subpar.

    I don’t think you’ll find anybody blaming him.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    You may, but there’s a few ahead of him in the queue.

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    PaulSanfran49
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    But like so many presently here if not signed by the manager they are rarely involved.

    The moment the loan keeper is fit guess who will start !!! Some players already know they haven’t a chance no matter what.

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    ironkingironking
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    Rory for me had a confidence issue which is always a massive part of a goalkeepers game. Bringing in other keepers continually would not have helped.

    I had seen him play for Gainsborough Trinity on loan from Hull city where he was also an England U18 keeper. He was a cut above everybody at National North level.

    I did not see any games on I-player last season so had no preconceptions about any player. Of the 3 center halves Davis may have something, Manny though not the best tries hard, Taft however does not impress me at all. Not one of the current defenders is a patch on Jacob Bedeau.

    A five man under performing defence does not help any keeper, though commanding ones like Joe Murphy and Matt Gilks were imposing enough to ensure any defence gave 100% all of the time even on an off day.

    I will say it again though we lack a strike force of any sort less Loft and Scrimshaw who both graft. Up front is where your defence starts and I am sorry but Jarvis, O Neill and Green ain’t the answer, neither is the kid who got a brace pre-season.

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    Barton Iron you must be on the wind up, one in every four kicks sails out for a throw in. He makes some good saves, as every reputable keeper should. The fact he has a howler every so often doesn’t improve the above. If we produced such performances in a day-to-day, we’d be out of a job.

    The bloke is National League at best, you have merely become accustomed to mediocrity.

    Swann OUT

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    #213689
    lesgeolesgeo
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    IF (and a truly giant IF, I admit) the three CBs stay fit, the defence will be basically okay.
    I confess to being a bit underwhelmed by Taft whose form does seem to have slipped since he arrived.
    I do sometimes wonder, however, whether the extent of damage to players is jointly a confidence thing and the systems played.
    The FB issues should, hopefully, soon be remedied.
    Loft and Scrimshaw may well work to at least a reasonable extent.
    We have decent enough midfielders and yet we always look as if the opposition is going to have either a field day or 60%+ possession – or maybe both.
    Non-functioning midfields create unnecessary pressures on the defence and fail to supply chances to forwards. Familiar?
    The biggest single problem we have is in the organisation and selection of our midfield.
    Trying to to be a bit logical – I can’t see why this squad should not survive with a bit to spare.
    One way or another, systems need to be better geared to the players we have.

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    FerriteFerrite
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    Not sure why people think Loft & Scrimshaw will be such a good partnership. Everyone seems to think Loft is a target man but he absolutely isn’t, his hold-up play is terrible and his best work comes from running in behind. Just because he’s tall, people think we can just whack the ball up to him. Hopefully he can still dovetail with Scrimshaw but I’m not yet convinced they’ll be the perfect partnership some hope for.

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    lesgeolesgeo
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    You do make a sound point.

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    mkironMK Iron
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    I don’t think anyone is under the illusion that Loft and Scrimshaw will be a great partnership. Just that they are probably the best pair out of a very inexperienced bunch.

    O’Neil looks to be very one paced (speed close to reverse) and Green despite multiple opportunities cannot either control or pass the ball. No idea what Hippolyte’s best position is supposed to be but it is not as a front man. I would rather see Jessop up front gaining some experience than either of those two.

    Hence Loft and Scrimshaw are the best of a less than great bunch. Let’s face it if any of our forwards were great they wouldnt be here.

    At least Loft and Scrimshaw give centre backs something to think about. They could be smoking cigars when any of the others are playing.

    Our biggest problem is we dont have any wide midfield players. All of our current bunch including the loanees seem to want to play centrally. Green and Hippolyte are nominally wide midfielders but see above. I think this is the main reason we are playing 5 at the back. You need width and support for the front men from wide midfielders in a 4-4-2.

    Unfortunately 5 at the back only works if you pass out from the back. We play that system and still lump it up to forwards with no great ability in the air or to hold the ball up.

    Consequently we have a shit show.

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    FerriteFerrite
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    I would like to see Scrimshaw, or Loft for that matter, given a go alongside Jarvis. I don’t think anyone’s expecting Jarvis to score hatfulls of goals but he could be a handy foil for a strike partner.

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    I keep forgetting about Jarvis. I do agree he probably has more potential to become a “proper” League 2 target man than Loft. I like Loft’s work rate and the bit of edge that he has but his hold up play has not improved in the slightest since he has been here. I really don’t know what these guys do in training but it is not working. Surely Lillis could coach the guy on proper centre forward play.

    When Loft does get the ball sent up to him he immediately tries to take on his man or try some outrageous first time ball. He never gets the ball properly under control and lays a simple ball off to midfield or a partner (on the odd occasion he has a partner).

    I would be applying the 3 strike rule. Do it once you get the stare. Do it twice you get a bollocking. Third time your substituted and Jarvis comes on.

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    FerriteFerrite
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    Yes, you always have to consider the instructions & coaching players may (or may not!) be getting.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Hopefully he can still dovetail with Scrimshaw but I’m not yet convinced they’ll be the perfect partnership some hope for.

    Nobody has even said on this forum that they’d be the perfect partnership. All posters have said “including myself” is that they’re our best bet, which is a far cry from being “perfect”

    Loft has his limitations but as long as the service is good enough he’ll be alright and Scrimshaw is busy enough and showed in the opening game with the over head kick that’s he’s a capable finisher.

    The midfield balance is completely out though. I’d much rather play with wingers personally with Hippolyte and Bunn out wide and have Beestin partnering pugh/Wood in the middle.

    We may as well go more positive as we’re getting well beat anyway with the negative approach.

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    FerriteFerrite
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    The midfield balance is completely out though. I’d much rather play with wingers personally with Hippolyte and Bunn out wide and have Beestin partnering pugh/Wood in the middle.

    But that will require playing a back 4 and I can’t see Cox going for that at the moment. He obviously wants to play all of his 3 main centre backs.

    We may as well go more positive as we’re getting well beat anyway with the negative approach.

    Couldn’t agree more! I’ve said it before, at least the team that nearly got relegated in 2004 was fun to watch!

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    The only CB that looks like he has something is Davis…

    No chance!

    Absolute dross of a CB let alone captain material!

    Loft held the ball up many times last season but teammates were nowhere to be seen. I think Loft and Scrimshaw would work but why on earth would we play 2 upfront?

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