Republicans v Democrats

[Deereyme66]

‘Oh, I forgot it’s just a story!’ Yes, but is it Treason?

You either get it or you don’t. My coat is being prepared….

[Deereyme66]

Going back to the OP, are you claiming a Christian that votes Democrat isn’t genuine? Do you think that’s a tad pious per chance?

[billpuntonsghost]

“Are you claiming a Christian that votes Democrat isn’t genuine?”
Genuine? What does genuine mean in your understanding of a “ genuine Christian”
Jesus states in John 6:65 ‘No one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”
The “ Good News” is something I have declared on this site ,so I won’t repeat it.
The killing of the unborn child in the womb has lead to millions of deaths. The Democrats support this action. The Republicans have a pro-life stance.
A “ genuine Christian “ has no other position to take ,other than supporting pro-life.

[Siderite]

And Democratic Christians would say that the Republicans’ policies go against their Christian beliefs on charity and helping the poor.

Trying to find the definition of ‘true Christians’ based on selective beliefs is a fools’ errand, as Christianity has branched off into dozens of sects based on interpretation. Each one claiming to have the best understanding, unlike the other ‘false’ and misled factions.

[Deereyme66]

Exactly

[billpuntonsghost]

The claims that the Republicans are against charity and helping the poor can be debated by both sides.Supporting the murder of millions of unborn children against a party that is pro-life cannot be debated,because it’s fact. This is why the American Christian in overwhelming numbers vote Republican.

[Siderite]

The idea that abortion is ‘murder’ is definitely debatable.

[Gurnelista]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

A “ genuine Christian “ has no other position to take ,other than supporting pro-life.

So why do so many of them support the death penalty?

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Because it’s gods will as he gave us free will,unless it’s using the medical capability both physical and mental,we have to realign gender then its against God’s will.
If its good its God’s doing if its bad but liked by bloodthirsty loons its freewill given by God therefore his will.If it’s helping people they discriminate against, its against God’s teachings.

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[Northumbiron]

“A “ genuine Christian “ has no other position to take, other than supporting pro-life.”

Aye! Pity it doesn’t extend to after the child is born!

[billpuntonsghost]

Gurnelista – “ So why do so many of them support the death penalty?”
Gurnelista always gives the impression of refuting an argument with a “strawman “ post.
The answer to THIS question is that God ( who has reaveled His prescriptive will in the “ God breathed” inspired,inerrrant and sufficient Scriptures) is a JUST GOD.
His message to all people hostile to His word is repent and put your trust in Jesus Christ. God is rich in Mercy. Life does have meaning ,purpose and value.Merry Christmas on a day of celebration tomorrow.

[Deereyme66]

Hanukkah Sameach!

[Siderite]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

Gurnelista – “ So why do so many of them support the death penalty?”
Gurnelista always gives the impression of refuting an argument with a “strawman “ post.
The answer to THIS question is that God ( who has reaveled His prescriptive will in the “ God breathed” inspired,inerrrant and sufficient Scriptures) is a JUST GOD.
His message to all people hostile to His word is repent and put your trust in Jesus Christ. God is rich in Mercy. Life does have meaning ,purpose and value.Merry Christmas on a day of celebration tomorrow.

It’s not God carrying out the Death penalty, for one, it’s mankind. Often innocent men and women get killed, which isn’t just.

Secondly, the way you view your god is similar to how many dictators think of themselves. You often talk about how we must all borrow our values from Christianity, but I have no moral value of the death penalty. There are better ways to deal with the worst criminals.

[Gurnelista]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

Gurnelista – “ So why do so many of them support the death penalty?”

The answer to THIS question is that God ( who has reaveled His prescriptive will in the “ God breathed” inspired,inerrrant and sufficient Scriptures) is a JUST GOD.

So, you don’t know, then.

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Northumbiron

[billpuntonsghost]

I did answer it !
We are not discussing on a neutral playingfield(as some silent Christians seem to think)
You are hostile to God,you are in rebellion against your Creator,you are suppressing the truth in unrighteousness. You will not accept God’s law ( His prescriptive will in the “God breathed” inspired,inerrant and sufficient Scriptures) .
All answers will be ignored and another question asked . Even Biblical truth is answered by rebellious ideas- the rebel sinner will deny God’s word because he is hostile to the living God. It is all explained in Scripture ,and in it God explains how you can be changed from being “ dead in sin” to being “alive in Christ”.God bless.

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“The answer to THIS question is that God ( who has reaveled His prescriptive will in the “ God breathed” inspired,inerrrant and sufficient Scriptures) is a JUST GOD.”
Is this a word jumble as it doesn’t answer any thing.

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Siderite

[Siderite]

Or it could be be we just disagree with Christianity? Your rigid fundamentalism doesn’t allow any other possible explanation. It cannot be that we have a different viewpoint, we have to be nefarious and rebelling against god. Your fellow Christian who you seem to be taking digs at seems to have some understanding of this.

It may be a nifty security mechanism against cognitive dissonance and any insecurities from critique, but it doesn’t have any evidence for it. How would you distinguish between someone ‘rebelling against God’ and finding Christianity, and your version specifically, unbelievable? I don’t believe in Christianity, not because of some active rebellion (who am I rebelling against? I can’t rebel against something I genuinely don’t believe is real), because I don’t find it evidence based. No problems from me to others who do, but it would be nice to have some respect in return.

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Iron-awe

[billpuntonsghost]

There is a judgement day,Siderite. God states His Eternal power and Divine nature are clear to see, so people are without excuse.Gods states in Scripture you do know He exists and are in rebellion ( under the power of the prince of the air) The respect I show to you is that I want you to realise life does have meaning ,purpose and value ( unlike your present worldview of life) and hoping you can receive everlasting joy in repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

[Siderite]

I can find worth in life from other viewpoints. You just demonstrate your narrow mindedness here. It is beyond you that people reject Christianity, not through Rebellion against a deity, but because we genuinely don’t think it exists.

If God was clear to see, then it wouldn’t be reliant on faith.

[billpuntonsghost]

“It is beyond you that people reject Christianity,not through rebellion against a deity but because we genuinely don’t think it exists.”
God states otherwise in the Scriptures.

[Gurnelista]

Bill, it’s no use holding up your cross and ranting like some medieval priest against the devil!
Just answer the question about why many of the pro-life lobby declare that abortion is morally wrong, but the death penalty is not.

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Deereyme66

[Heath]

And then you can answer which of the 10 commandments has Trump not broken.

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Deereyme66

[billpuntonsghost]

You certainly are trying to be judge in your tone,Gurnelista.
God’s prescriptive Will is revealed in Scripture and both the pro life position and the death penalty position are explained in Scripture . But hey, asking question after question in a “ judge” like way (as if you are speaking from a neutral position is laughable) .You are hostile to God and will not accept His law,nor can you do so.Your rebellion ,being a slave to sin is your problem.There is only one mediator between God and Man.Reach out God is rich in Mercy.God bless.

[Siderite]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

“It is beyond you that people reject Christianity,not through rebellion against a deity but because we genuinely don’t think it exists.”
God states otherwise in the Scriptures.

It is beyond you that I don’t think Scriptures are some great foolproof evidence isn’t it? And not because I am rebelling against a known truth, but because I doubt their validity as a deity’s word.

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[Gurnelista]

Are you in favour of the death penalty, Bill?

[billpuntonsghost]

..Death penalty for who?

[Gurnelista]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

..Death penalty for who?

Come on BPG, that’s such a poor, cheesy answer. (Just camouflage for something much darker, I think.) It sounds like you’re happy to let politics trump religion.
HE will not be impressed, especially on his son’s birthday.

But here’s a way to repent. You could move to the Middle East, open a deli. and call it ‘Cheeses of Nazareth’!

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[Northumbiron]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

..Death penalty for who?

Didn’t your lot use to burn people alive for being the wrong type of Christian?

[Iron-awe]

That’s it bill has gone, too many home truths even for him to try and squirm round.

[billpuntonsghost]

Gurnelista- “Are you in favour of the death penalty,Bill?
BPG – “Death penalty for who?”
NO SENSIBLE REPLY. The same with the Pro – life argument,just ad-hom attacks and deflective irrelevant posts.
Gurnelista silence is deafening when the direction of the thread is leading in a direction he sees danger in his “worldview”.
BucksIron gets the same silence and he( Gurnelista)leaves it to his “ad-hom” hatchetmen to finish any meaningful discussion.

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