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June 19, 2024 at 7:38 am #287144
Turns out it’s not Nasty Nige’s fault his party attracts racist as candidates and they have been stitched up
June 19, 2024 at 3:54 pm #287177Good old Nige, another of those Fascist/ Racists who are entirely blameless. Whose party is it Nigel? just remind us all again.
June 19, 2024 at 4:02 pm #287180He attracts a certain type and can’t figure out why? He’s just a normal bloke,not particularly of the establishment apparently Most public schoolboy bankers are just ordinary blokes you know,like Boris etc,not establishment at all
June 19, 2024 at 4:07 pm #287181Another ego maniac like his buddy Trump, said he wasn’t standing then changed his mind when he saw a window of opportunity to kick the Tories even harder and grab some more personal headlines, then made himself leader of Reform ( don’t recall a membership vote, very democratic) and has been blowing hot air everyday since, nice bloke.
June 19, 2024 at 4:09 pm #287182June 22, 2024 at 5:54 pm #287276Lord Nigel Haw Haw was stitched up again by airing his appeasement views again. His foreign policy opinions are no different to Galloway or Corbyn.
June 22, 2024 at 7:34 pm #287281June 23, 2024 at 9:53 am #287286June 28, 2024 at 7:03 pm #287412The accusations of racism, homophobia etc under his watch are all smears to do a good man down. I have heard this tripe before.
June 28, 2024 at 9:50 pm #287424The public realise a Labour government will be a disaster for the country.
June 28, 2024 at 9:58 pm #287425Aye, which is why more will vote for them than Reform in all likelihood.
June 28, 2024 at 10:04 pm #287426Do they? Will they? Not long to wait. Feel free to vote for the fascists.
June 28, 2024 at 10:39 pm #287429“None of the racist, xenophobic etc comments are my fault. I paid someone to monitor the selection of candidates, they didn’t do it.” Farage.
Where have we heard that before?
June 28, 2024 at 11:17 pm #287430The people trying to stitch up our Nige apparently didn’t realise that it’s wise to give actors a fictional name for their part. It’s almost as if the activist wasn’t acting in any way.
June 29, 2024 at 6:58 am #287431June 29, 2024 at 9:57 am #287432June 29, 2024 at 10:12 am #287433<iframe title=”Undercover Inside Reform’s Campaign – evidence of homophobia and canvasser’s racism” src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/JmkMpYbOoO0?feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share” referrerpolicy=”strict-origin-when-cross-origin” allowfullscreen=”” id=”fitvid0″></iframe>I saw it, he didn’t.
June 29, 2024 at 11:59 am #287437<iframe title=”Undercover Inside Reform’s Campaign – evidence of homophobia and canvasser’s racism” src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/JmkMpYbOoO0?feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share” referrerpolicy=”strict-origin-when-cross-origin” allowfullscreen=”” id=”fitvid0″></iframe>I saw it, he didn’t.
Ignore, didn’t work as I thought.
June 29, 2024 at 2:03 pm #287441Just adding a bit of video ‘balance’ in the absence of alcazar…’muhahaha’ etc
June 29, 2024 at 7:37 pm #287452Airing investigative journalism that dares to criticise dear leader is ‘election interference’. I suppose, in Farage’s ideal world, he would get nothing but softball interviews and puff pieces. An authoritarian mindset. https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1807049835410805113
July 5, 2024 at 10:58 am #287646Hmmm, more racists than we thought out there, or right-wingers disillusioned with the Tories?
July 5, 2024 at 11:07 am #287647A lot of dissatisfied conservatives, mostly. I have huge issues with Reform, including its many dodgy candidates (like the guy who called black people savages) who are undoubtedly racist, but I don’t think everyone voted based on similar racist reasoning. Of course this rhetoric will appeal to the racists who voted for them, but I don’t want to tar them all like that.
Before anyone says anything, I take the same view for others, be it Corbyn fans or SNP, neither of which I agree with and have made that clear. I don’t think all Scottish nationalists or Corbyn fans liked them for troublesome reasons, but because they thought it would be the best for the country.
July 5, 2024 at 11:40 am #2876494 million is a lot of voters.
On this occasion proportional representation would have been a bit of a disaster!
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July 5, 2024 at 11:52 am #287650Take into account how many were perhaps protest votes taken from the Tories (yes Labour too but to a lessee extent) and how many secretly wanted Sunak out due to racist tendencies (comment from that campaigner on the C4 undercover doc?) but wouldn’t say in public, I wouldn’t fret too much. That’s not to underestimate them and I’m not tarring then all with the same brush. Immigration and anti-wokism is high on their agenda but personally I think there’s a bigger emphasis on dissatisfaction with the Tories. A lot can happen in a few years. Meanwhile, I’m just happy the old rotters are gone
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July 5, 2024 at 12:31 pm #287651Reform vote share is a concern and certainly reflects how far the Tories have fallen from favour, they need to reconstruct their party to provide a decent opposition at the next election to Labour. My late father spent six years of his life fighting fascism, racism and dictatorship in the forms of Hitler and Mussolini and we must never allow even a whiff of those evils to become present in our modern day politics. Congratulations to the Labour party and I wish them well in their attempts to turn this country round and provide a more prosperous fairer society for all and not just a few but the low turnout of 60% at this election reminds us all how important education about politics and government should be become part of our education curriculum in the future. We cannot give up our democratic right to vote that was fought so hard for and at a high cost by many to disappear overtime to apathy, we need to make people aware of their responsibility to vote for whoever but just to get out and vote when election time comes around.
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July 5, 2024 at 3:43 pm #287658‘they need to reconstruct their party to provide a decent opposition at the next election to Labour.’
They absolutely do. I’d vote Tory if it was necessary to keep Reform at bay in any constituency I may be living in.
July 5, 2024 at 3:51 pm #287660I feel the Conservatives will learn the wrong lessons from this. They think they will just need to pander to the right and fail to realise that a large reason why Labour won was that they appealed enough to a broad brush of voters across the country (not just stacking votes in metropolitan areas, as it was in 2017 and 2019) who don’t have that same Reform style politics. I feel there is a limit on the right wing vote, as there was a left wing one with Corbyn. It might win certain areas, but it alienates enough across the country to make it less likely to be a winning strategy in my opinion. I suspect it will be a decade rebuild as the Tories go through their own delusions and civil strife like with Labour under Miliband and Corbyn.
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July 5, 2024 at 7:30 pm #287675Quite eye-opening tonight on Look North listening to Edward Leigh who retained his Conservative seat in Gainsborough saying he thinks the Tories should invite Farage and Reform to join them in a new coalition to oppose Labour. Are they really that desperate to cling onto the hope they can regain power next time by forging an unlikely alliance with the far right in the shape of Reform? Wonder if that includes the racist and fascist elements so strong within Farages party that he as leader is happy to embrace?, seems unbelievable but perhaps shows how far down the s**t pan the Tories have fallen.
July 5, 2024 at 7:53 pm #287677It’s hard to know given they have lost 251 seats, how many of the Tories are in the Braverman “family” or Hunt’s moderates. I don’t see how they will agree on and support a leader from either camp. It is therefore inevitable that a group will join up with Farage’s mob.
It’s up to Labour and Starmer to take this opportunity and then show Farage for what he is. Jonathan Pie does this in less than 5 minutes.
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July 5, 2024 at 8:02 pm #287678Whilst I celebrate the purge of the Tories, a large number of the more moderate Tories lost their seats. This is on top of the remainers who were purged by Johnson.
This election and the last 14 years has shown the bulk of them to be a set of self serving ……..
If they think that joining Farage serves their purpose, they will do it.
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