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‘the gates will reflect that over the course of the season if we don’t recruit some quality. It’s a fine balance between cost saving on wages and loss of income if the football is poor.’
Results will have more effect than quality. If we’re playing well and losing and not challenging for auto promotion the gates might drop off. You seem obsessed about the loss of two players that don’t make a team. If it’s not quite as pretty but we’re digging in, players are putting shifts in and challenging for promotion; thats what people want, not hanging on for a Butterfield worldie.
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WG if you are trying to tell me that you think we’re a better football team without Ogle, Butterfield, Elliott and DSF you must have been hitting the hard stuff again.
Butterfield didn’t slow down, we lost momentum after January, no coincidence that coincided with losing Butterfield to concussion protocols and Whitehall to match suspensions. We looked nervous as the gap with Tamworth started to widen and tactical mistakes from the manager along with a lack of plan B didn’t help either. As a previous poster pointed out he played 90 minutes in more games toward the end of the season than he did in the first half so I don’t see fitness being a factor as you’re alluding to. I was at every home game bar 2 last season and he was the best player on the pitch in most of those games.
We went a goal down in 12 league games last season and came back to get something from 4 of them; Tamworth away, Chester at home, Hereford away and Gloucester away. I don’t think that’s too bad. But you are right, ultimately we weren’t good enough last season and we blew our best shot to go up.
I’d still have rather built on last season as despite the bitter ending I found it enjoyable for the first time in a long while as a Scunthorpe fan. The ‘pretty football’ when it worked was great to watch. I think with a bit more fitness, tactical nous and plan B for a more physical approach when the pretty stuff wasn’t working we would have had a good chance.
Finances have dictated where we are now at. Michelle said herself Butlers appointment was a financial decision. Affordable manager, bargain signings and in your own words swapping quality for ‘hard work’.
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Results will have more effect than quality. If we’re playing well and losing and not challenging for auto promotion the gates might drop off. You seem obsessed about the loss of two players that don’t make a team. If it’s not quite as pretty but we’re digging in, players are putting shifts in and challenging for promotion; thats what people want, not hanging on for a Butterfield worldie.
You are correct Deerey results have the biggest impact. I’m just not feeling too optimistic about either results or how we are shaping up to play.
It’s not just the loss of our two best players, it’s the loss of other good footballers and the lack of any quality coming in to replace those that have departed. There’s been no real excitement over any of our signings and a general feeling of underwhelm on the football side of things. It’s quite telling that the announcement of one players exit has had a vast amount more fan engagement than all four of our incomings combined.
Whilst seasoned fans might be happy with ‘digging in’ the fair weathers and younger generation want a bit of excitement and they are here for the ‘worldies’. A lad I met last year told me he’d been bringing his 10 year old son to most home games as his son had become a real young die hard after the Brackley game. No guesses who his favourite player was.
If we are challenging for promotion all will be well but removing the rose tinted spectacles for a second that is a very big IF. There is still hope that the club have a surprise rabbit to pull out of the hat in the next week or so as I’m struggling to believe we will sign more than 1 of the trialists we currently have training with us.
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We are going to put out strong teams. These will probably be good enough to challenge in playoff territory; we must surely have a better manager than JD; we are gonna enjoy much better fitness.
We have covered Elliott; I agree that Ogle had weaknesses; Butterfield’s absence is trickier, however. We’ll certainly need goals from midfield to progress.
I see no real reason why we cannot make huge progress. Three wins, one draw and one defeat per five games is not too much to ask for in this division of very mixed quality.
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Agree with 414 no high profile signings as yet is worrying saying that the new fella Charlton long name looks to be a decent addition , hoping Fishy n Mad Max turn out to be special.. my crystal ball is still predicting mid table up to last play off place at best , as much as windalene n polish it no sign of any promotion.
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Last season we had a squad which could have cruised this league if properly managed.
Squad 15% weaker (?) – properly managed and fitter – I think we’ll be top four.1 user thanked author for this post.
Whoops evidently we’ve got a kitlady, hope she likes traditional songs.
Sharon Stevenson .. kit lady obviously more adept for the IRONing jobs ..ill get mi coat!!
Muzzy survives AGAIN
New fella Pack certainly doesnt have a six pack .. bit of a porker man boobs n all .. i hope he joins in with this new fitness regime we are getting bombarded with on the club website n SM.
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WG yes you are missing something. Your marbles if you think we have a better squad without the aforementioned and with the addition of the nobody’s we’ve signed so far.
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Butterfield irreplaceable,what a joke.We have had far better players at a higher level level and often replaced them ,so a guy who faded in NLN is more than replaceable
Back in the glory days maybe 64. At NLN we won’t get anyone anywhere near his quality. Have you seen the shower we’ve got on trial?
Rumours circulating that Silva was joining the Iron on trial .. BRILLIANT i was buzzing until i saw it was Long John Silva, .. ill get mi coat again !!
Hang on a mo ..even he might make the bench way the squads shaping up.
Just a bit of fun gents ..as was just watching ze Jermans get knocked out of Euro 24 ..
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It’s a wonder Tamworth and Boston were promoted given we had irreplaceable players and they had what others would call a ‘shower’.
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Did you miss my post at 2.03pm as I’ve answered the points you keep labouring over in there WG. There’s no denying we were not good enough last year hence finishing 2nd and missing out on promotion. There’s also no denying we are on paper a worse football team this year, with little cover for injuries despite having a fair amount of injury prone players, playing in a division with tougher competition than last season with an unproven manager. The only ‘harping on’ is you about ‘coming back from losing positions’. I’d say our lack of a plan B when our plan A wasn’t working last season, was a weakness probably more attributable to the manager and his tactics rather than the players themselves that you seem to be blaming.
You’ve completely got your head in the sand Wonder Goals. It’s a fact that we’ve lost our two best players. Not my opinion but the opinion of all the iron fans that voted Ogle and Butterfield as our best players the last 2 years. Facts don’t lie but the crack pipe does. Put it down and step away slowly.
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Can we please stop encouraging WG. Responding to his posts only encourages more, and more, of the same.
He will carry on until he is blue in the face repeating the same garbage.
Please, stop responding now!!
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Give over IronIronIron, part of the fun on here is baiting WG and waiting for his hilarious responses, it’s what makes the close season bearable till the new season kicks off again, go on WG fill your boots son.
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Bit ov a shock … Abo Eisa has joined the Thai PL team i follow n go watch Nong Bua Pitchya.
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