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September 28, 2021 at 10:55 am #214379
Four weeks since the transfer window closed, so we’ve had a month to assess the summer signings.
We were crying out for a bit of experience and a wise old head on the pitch so who did we get?
We got Kenyon and Davis from Morecambe, an experienced forward in Harry Bunn and a RB with league games under his belt albeit in Scotland.
The common denominator? All have had, or are having lengthy spells out injured. So still no leadership/experience on show.
We sign a forward who looks like a teenager out to have a kick-about with his mates. Then on deadline day we bring in two CMs on loan who are obviously no better (some would argue worse) than our own home grown youngsters who are relegated to the bench.
The only two we have seen anything from are Thompson and Perry, although Scrimshaw looks to have something about him.
So rather like his win ratio, Cox’s recruitment is running at around the 25% success mark!
Why does our recruitment continue to be so poor? Is it Cox, is it Will Swann? And why do we continue to sign (or even re-sign) crocks?
Fitness, particularly in the last quarter of games is a real issue.
Add these signings to the dross we still have hanging around from last year and we have a squad that will struggle to stay out of the bottom two places.
Poor all round.
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September 28, 2021 at 11:29 am #214381Is that a double entendre in para 8 or a misspelling?
September 28, 2021 at 12:25 pm #214383The last 4 years recruitment has been abysmal, the club has had ITS money wasted and no say in the matter. At this point in time who has been recruited ‘ the rough diamonds to be polished ‘ that we will sell on ? No one.
And the fans are ignored again and again !!
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September 28, 2021 at 12:47 pm #214385Also difficult to polish and sell on a rough diamond if they only have a 1 year contract.
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September 28, 2021 at 1:35 pm #214387The supposed star of pre-season was Cameron Wilson. He can’t get in the team that doesn’t have any decent wide men. Behind Green, Hippo, Bunn, Hallam and Beestin.
Is he not good enough? Will he sign for Celtic at the end of the season? Are O’Malley and Wilson better choices for wide midfield than the others and the only prospects for a sell on fee? Only one way to find out, we are losing every match so not a lot at risk is there.
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September 28, 2021 at 3:20 pm #214388Why does our recruitment continue to be so poor?
Because in life you only get out what you put in and we aren’t putting enough in?
I also note that one of the two players you list as a success isn’t currently in the team either! So that success rates falls a bit further….
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September 28, 2021 at 5:55 pm #214392We have a reasonable team of triers, however, the problem is we haven’t signed anyone with genuine quality. A couple of players who can lift the team, make things happen and most importantly, stay fit would make all the difference. OK, they may cost a few quid, but we are losing far more revenue through depleted gates and will lose even more money next season when the enviable has happened
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September 28, 2021 at 5:56 pm #214393Ferrite, that’s because as per usual we have an unbalanced squad.
Two decent left backs is great, but not when there are weaknesses in other positions.
We either have too many (insert position) or too few. Get a run of injuries, which we always seem to do, and we’re screwed!
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September 28, 2021 at 6:44 pm #214396” A couple of players who can lift the team, make things happen and most importantly, stay fit would make all the difference. OK, they may cost a few quid,”
IIRC somebody with knowledge of the EFL loan rules said that the outstanding loan meant we could only sign players on a free.
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September 28, 2021 at 6:48 pm #214397Nail hit on the head NI.
We worked a few promising wide positions in the first half particularly on the right but attempted crosses from Millen and Hippolyte were really poor.
We are never going to get much in from the left playing a hard working Beeston totally out of position.
We didn’t seem to think about the areas where most League 2 open play goals come from i.e. from advanced wide positions. We knew we had lost Gillead and Eisa and we were never going to replace them with the same quality but to not replace them with anybody was a massive error in recruitment.
I assume Cox thought Green and Hippolyte were going to step up to the plate which was a massive error of judgement. They both had enough opportunities last season and delivered virtually nothing between them.
Neither has done anything this season other than demonstrate they are 2 levels above their capability. We have Bunn of course but he seems determined to beat Hallam for treatment table bookings.
The other schoolboy error was to have only Kenyon as a holding midfield player. Out of our other 5 or 6 central midfielders none is equipped to play one of the 2 roles we expect midfielders to play.
Nothing Wood and Hackney have done so far suggests they are better than Beeston, Pugh or Perry but their loan deals seem to suggest they must be in the squad if not the starting line up. WTF?
I know finances dictate recruitment was going to be tough but Cox and Cygnet seem to have made just as big a mess of it as our lord and master used to when he was the one man committee.
Best hope is to play Wilson right and Thompson left until Bunn is fit and get Pugh in the holding position until Kenyon is fit and proves he can move above walking pace.
Shows what shit we are in that putting 3 inexperienced kids into key positions would probably improve the team significantly.
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September 28, 2021 at 7:27 pm #214401”
IIRC somebody with knowledge of the EFL loan rules said that the outstanding loan meant we could only sign players on a free.
I’m sure there was plenty of options available on frees for the right price. How much in transfer fees did the respective new clubs pay for Gilliad, Easa and Van Veen?
September 28, 2021 at 8:16 pm #214406I would personally move O’Malley up one to LW and play Wilson RW. Thompson and Millen at FB positions. I’d go Beestin and Wood in CM.
I still think there’s a player in Wood. Hackney can go back for me.
Not much between Wood and Pugh but I think Wood is a bit more solid without the ball.
Hackney needs to go back in Jan and we could do with signing a LW on loan. Get O’Neil out the club and see if we can get an able striker in with an ounce of ability.
Quite pleased with Jarvis’s contribution so he’s a viable option but he’s a target man type, similar to Loft. If we can get a nippy striker in who’s not a bad finisher it will go a hell of a long way.
Strange with Wilson though as he looked really promising pre season but not had a sniff.
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September 28, 2021 at 8:46 pm #214407Get O’Neil out the club and see if we can get an able striker in with an ounce of ability.
This is precisely my beef about the recruitment. O’Neill has made just a few cameos, but I think most of us are of the opinion that he’s never going to contribute a great deal.
To get him “out the club” after less than ten games smacks of poor decision making by those in charge of recruitment.
It’s also slightly disconcerting that both O’Neill and Hackney must have been known to McMahon and we’re most probably (though we can’t be certain) recommended to Cox by him.
Baffling!
September 28, 2021 at 9:30 pm #214408coach wonder bowels shares his wisdom
September 28, 2021 at 10:52 pm #214409Grow up.
That’s neither use nor ornament.If you’ve nowt to contribute, don’t bother.
September 29, 2021 at 12:25 am #214411September 29, 2021 at 8:33 am #214413A couple of players who can lift the team, make things happen and most importantly, stay fit would make all the difference
I’m reminded of something Laws said on the Bru podcast interview, along the lines of the fact that he’d been spreading his budget fairly evenly for years but, at the start of the 04/05 season, he realised that spending a few more quid on a good keeper could make far more difference than spending that money elsewhere. Result? In came Musselwhite and along with a couple of other shrewd (and experienced) signings, the defence was transformed from the one that nearly cost us our League status the previous season.
September 29, 2021 at 10:26 am #214419alcoholic and wonder bowels team up
September 29, 2021 at 10:44 am #214420A couple of players who can lift the team, make things happen and most importantly, stay fit would make all the difference
I’m reminded of something Laws said on the Bru podcast interview, along the lines of the fact that he’d been spreading his budget fairly evenly for years but, at the start of the 04/05 season, he realised that spending a few more quid on a good keeper could make far more difference than spending that money elsewhere. Result? In came Musselwhite and along with a couple of other shrewd (and experienced) signings, the defence was transformed from the one that nearly cost us our League status the previous season.
plus Baraclough.
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September 29, 2021 at 1:14 pm #214421Never understand why we are developing young players from other clubs who are certainly not an improvement on our young players.
And to hear that Scrimshaw is a ‘Willing Runner’ – what an accolade !
We already had them here – players who needed that chance to develop instead we drop them and loan some out. But par for the course, our players dropped latest managerial signings selected. And of course this policy has yielded fine results – JOINT BOTTOM !!
September 29, 2021 at 3:08 pm #214424But the manager must be allowed to back his own judgement surely – if it is his own! He obviously thinks that Shrimpton, Jessop, Wilson etc are not yet ready, the puzzle is why he thinks Wood & Hackney are. I can’t believe he’s seen a lot of Scrimshaw either, is it the chief scout that’s giving him these wonderful gifts?
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September 29, 2021 at 3:13 pm #214426Ask anyone who has participated in sports, be it golf, tennis, rock climbing, skiing or whatever and they’ll tell you they learnt from playing/participating alongside better players.
Our youngsters are not learning because those they are playing with are no better than they are.
As a result our squad will not develop as well as previous outfits that had the likes of Joe Murphy, Andy Crosby and Ian Baraclough in them.
We are actually stifling our home grown talent, not developing it.
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October 1, 2021 at 1:40 pm #214488I would personally move O’Malley up one to LW and play Wilson RW. Thompson and Millen at FB positions. I’d go Beestin and Wood in CM.
I still think there’s a player in Wood. Hackney can go back for me.
Not much between Wood and Pugh but I think Wood is a bit more solid without the ball.
Hackney needs to go back in Jan and we could do with signing a LW on loan. Get O’Neil out the club and see if we can get an able striker in with an ounce of ability.
Quite pleased with Jarvis’s contribution so he’s a viable option but he’s a target man type, similar to Loft. If we can get a nippy striker in who’s not a bad finisher it will go a hell of a long way.
Strange with Wilson though as he looked really promising pre season but not had a sniff.
Great team selection exactly what I would go with! Jarvis to start tomorrow and then when his time to come off bring Loft on instead of Hallam.
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