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December 2, 2022 at 2:58 pm #249782
Surely even Corbynites and those on the left who call anyone ‘Blairites’ for not worshipping at the altar of St Jeremy would be pleased with a Labour victory at the next general election? Given some of the four letter names a proportion of the left have dished out to Starmer over the last few years, I’m not so sure.
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December 2, 2022 at 7:38 pm #249812Getting rid of the Tories is paramount ,I don’t think the majority of Left wing (proper) Labour supporters will shed a tear for the Tories.They certainly won’t be worried about winning,unlike Starmer’s pals in HQ.Dont expect the distrust of the biggest liar in Labour politics for decades to end though.In our two party system we have to have internal debates not Starm vader and his broken promises and scorched earth.Onlt Crick in the mainstream has spoken about it,because MSM do not see the left or anything left of center to be legitimate.So hooray The Tories are dead but Starmer is no Blair,they’ll be no fanfare
December 2, 2022 at 7:53 pm #249814If only Starmer kept to the manifesto which was part of the worst electoral result for Labour since 1935 and kept pursuing the ideological purity politics which has seen them out of power for a decade. :-)
December 2, 2022 at 8:44 pm #249821When people start introducing terms like MSM in to discussions I switch off. Just proves there’s as many conspiracy theorists on the far left as the far right – as some recent demonstrations and protests in the former Eastern bloc testify. Far right and far left ‘unite and fight’. What a s***show. All the while the poorest in society continue to be s**t on. Well done.
December 2, 2022 at 8:57 pm #249823Yeah me too,MSM does sound like a conspiracy theorist ranting.I didn’t know another way of articulating how the big news corporations work
December 2, 2022 at 9:03 pm #249825‘(proper) Labour supporters’. What gives you the right to decide who is a proper Labour supporter and who isn’t 64? This is exactly the sort of attitude, superiority complex, of elments of the far left that are divisive, destructive and arrogant.as a Labour Party member I’ve canvassed in numerous general elections over the last 30 years, even with Corbyn as leader, despite my reservations. Because the Party comes first, not it’s leader IMO. It’s about the greater good (or should be). Remember that? If anyone on the far left thinks I’m not a proper Labour supporter because I’m critical of Corbyn they can do one. It may well be I’ve done more practically for the Party cause in my lifetime while they spent years tearing it apart with pathetic in fighting and agreeing with their mates in the pub.
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December 2, 2022 at 9:07 pm #249828Well, I was cheerful…
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December 2, 2022 at 9:29 pm #249829Just to add, I, along with many other Labour members who supported the Party, regardless of it’s leader, since the early 80s, have also sat in pubs with protest commitees led by the ANL / SWP. We’ve seen both sides. Though I suppose we’d be accused of being traitors or turncoats now. Or what I had at me a few years ago, ‘Tory in disguise’. Sounds good as a slogan, but little short of bullying and unintelligent.
December 10, 2022 at 2:21 pm #250312LibDems lapping all this up. Everyone knows our current political system is past its sell by date…
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