Play off tickets

[CMC]

Awaywego wrote:

Thought i was clear enough on my last post of why im sceptical don’t forget the Scarborough game was under Hiltons tenure so it’s not just about an owner but more of the current regime were the same regime.

Exactly, we are expected to give Moody, Turnbull and Elliott a free pass after they spent so much time criticising the supporters, the sooner Michelle and Roj chuck them out the better.

Like mentioned further up, you’ll be able to buy on the day no doubt… clubs want the money in ASAP.

Not seen a reaction like it since subsidised Carveries were stopped.

[cassidystash]

I guess the NL are used to clubs selling less than 2000 tickets for play off games, easy to do in a couple of days. If approached they must surely see the need to allow some flexibility for a club that could be dealing with 5,000+.

[Ferrite]

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Ridiculous decision by the authorities. 3 days to sell tickets for one of the biggest games of the year isn’t fair on supporters nor the club.

Again, I don’t understand what isn’t “fair” here? Are people just frustrated that they can’t post a screenshot of their ticket on their social media? Why do you need a ticket a week in advance of a game which won’t sell out?

[Apollo11]

Are people just frustrated that they can’t post a screenshot of their ticket on their social media?

I think it’s more generous than that – ie. it’s an awareness of the (admittedly short term) undue strain this is likely to put on club resources, plus the hassle involved for those people who don’t buy digitally having to go down to a very busy club office within a very limited timeframe to, probably, queue for ages.

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[Ferrite]

Apollo11 wrote:

I think it’s more generous than that – ie. it’s an awareness of the (admittedly short term) undue strain this is likely to put on club resources, plus the hassle involved for those people who don’t buy digitally having to go down to a very busy club office within a very limited timeframe to, probably, queue for ages.

Do you not think it’ll be pay-on-the-gate?

[Apollo11]

Do you not think it’ll be pay-on-the-gate?

If you mean physically hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstile itself then absolutely not.

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Awaywego

[Iron Age]

sufctickets offline at the moment, hope it’s sorted by next week.

[sufc_not_on_tour]

Everyone who really wants a ticket will get one.
Is there any members of the forum or anyone they know can honestly claim that they wanted to a ticket for an SUFC home match but weren’t able to get one either online or by visiting the ticket office or via telephone?
No, didn’t think so.

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[Ferrite]

Apollo11 wrote:

If you mean physically hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstile itself then absolutely not.

This would seem to the easiest way to do it, or am I missing something?

[Apollo11]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Everyone who really wants a ticket will get one.
Is there any members of the forum or anyone they know can honestly claim that they wanted to a ticket for an SUFC home match but weren’t able to get one either online or by visiting the ticket office or via telephone?
No, didn’t think so.

It’s not a complaint about the availability of tickets. It’s about the inconvenience to all concerned, especially the club staff and systems, when there is an unnecessarily narrow on-sale window.

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[cassidystash]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Everyone who really wants a ticket will get one.
Is there any members of the forum or anyone they know can honestly claim that they wanted to a ticket for an SUFC home match but weren’t able to get one either online or by visiting the ticket office or via telephone?
No, didn’t think so.

I’m not suggesting that anybody who wants one won’t get a ticket. Simply that it will be much easier for supporters and club staff if there are extra days to spread the load for staff and make it more convenient for supporters. Or is an increase in supporters an inconvenience for the NL.
(Consider supporters? Why would we want to do that?)

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[Apollo11]

Ferrite wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

If you mean physically hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstile itself then absolutely not.

This would seem to the easiest way to do it, or am I missing something?

Ordinarily on a match day you can’t hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstiles. You have to queue to get a ticket at the window located where the home end snack bar used to be near fanzine / Iron Trust corner, or go and get one from the main office. I imagine there is a reason for this, and I don’t see it changing for the Play Offs.

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[Ferrite]

FWIW, I think the requirement not to sell tickets in advance imposed by the league is a daft one, I don’t see the point. Especially when FA Cup ties have often been sold with an unknown opponent pending a replay.

But equally a couple of days to shift 5,000 tickets doesn’t seem that tight given most folk will be doing it through an automated online system.

[Deereyme66]

Think we should add ‘Brouhaha’ to the OP title. Or ‘Bollocks’.

[Apollo11]

Ferrite wrote:

… a couple of days to shift 5,000 tickets doesn’t seem that tight given most folk will be doing it through an automated online system.

I think the club is probably the best judge of that, and the fact a reconsideration was asked for suggests they think the reduced sale window might cause an unnecessary strain.

[Ferrite]

Apollo11 wrote:

I think the club is probably the best judge of that, and the fact a reconsideration was asked for suggests they think the reduced sale window might cause an unnecessary strain.

Assuming that’s the reason why the extension was requested.

Apollo11 wrote:

Ordinarily on a match day you can’t hand over cash or tap your card at the turnstiles.

I know there will be “reasons” for this and I’m moving the discussion away from the OP but I simply don’t understand why clubs which are not going to sell out the ground don’t have turnstiles where you can do this. Surely it should be as easy as possible to separate potential customers from their money? Especially on the terrace where there’s no issue around seat allocations.

[Apollo11]

Ferrite wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

I think the club is probably the best judge of that, and the fact a reconsideration was asked for suggests they think the reduced sale window might cause an unnecessary strain.

Assuming that’s the reason why the extension was requested.

What other reason could there be?

[Ferrite]

Apollo11 wrote:

What other reason could there be?

I would imagine it would be in the interests of the club to want to secure sales as soon as possible, for the same sort of reasons as clubs price tickets to encourage fans to buy in advance.

[MK Iron]

It would help the club greatly to have a couple more days to sell tickets.

They would then be able to give season ticket holders a couple of days to claim their place before a longer window for general sale. The DRE will sell out but the club are going to have to leave the full allocation of season ticket holders separate from those they can sell.

They are not going to sell out all seats but given they have to leave almost 2,000 seats available for an away team that may only bring 2 or 3 hundred then they could sell the majority of “home” seats. Again without time for the season ticket holder window means seat with a good view will have to be left empty while folks buy Cluggy Stand tickets with a poor view.

Not the end of the world but it makes things inconvenient for the club and fans for no good reason. We know already the date time and venue for the fixture. The away team will get allocated nearly 2,000 seats that none of the contenders will sell out whichever of them makes it. What is the problem National League?

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Ferrite wrote:

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Ridiculous decision by the authorities. 3 days to sell tickets for one of the biggest games of the year isn’t fair on supporters nor the club.

Again, I don’t understand what isn’t “fair” here? Are people just frustrated that they can’t post a screenshot of their ticket on their social media? Why do you need a ticket a week in advance of a game which won’t sell out?

Apollo has summed it up adequately.

Just to add, it will potentially put a few punters off too. More so the casual supporter rather than the 4,000 there week in, week out whom will obviously still get a ticket.

It’s a strange decision all round.

[Apollo11]

Ferrite wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

What other reason could there be?

I would imagine it would be in the interests of the club to want to secure sales as soon as possible, for the same sort of reasons as clubs price tickets to encourage fans to buy in advance.

I doubt there would be a two tier time-based pricing system for a Play Off semi-final with tickets on sale for just a week or so. I may be wrong, of course, but doesn’t ‘this kind of match’ just have the one ticket price (concessions excepting) per each relevant area of the ground?

[Ferrite]

MK Iron wrote:

They would then be able to give season ticket holders a couple of days to claim their place before a longer window for general sale.

Why do we need a two-tier system dividing fans?

Apollo11 wrote:

I doubt there would be a two tier time-based pricing system for a Play Off semi-final with tickets on sale for just a week or so. I may be wrong, of course, but doesn’t ‘this kind of match’ just have the one ticket price (concessions excepting) per each relevant area of the ground?

Not sure, I was just explaining a potential reason why clubs like to get the money in as soon as possible, which is why they price regular matches in that way. Not just SUFC of course, virtually every professional club does this now.

[Awaywego]

I like the way everyone is believing Moody on this, The facts are its not in the Vanarama 23/24 rule book about waiting till the opponent is known, and the fact is that teams last year were allowed to sell the semi tickets as soon as the regular season had finished.
History shows be sceptical of the club, do they put the best interest of the fans first, not from previous no.

[MK Iron]

I was not suggesting season ticket holders get different prices. Far from it. Like most season ticket holders I suspect I am delighted the club has the opportunity to make as much as possible.

It is usual with the Iron and any other professional club that season ticket holders are given a period to buy a ticket for their normal seat or standing area. Any seats or spaces not claimed can then go on general sale. This ensures the most popular seats and areas are filled and crowd/revenue is maximised. Surely that is as much in the interests of the away club and the National League.

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[Siderite]

Awaywego wrote:

I like the way everyone is believing Moody on this, The facts are its not in the Vanarama 23/24 rule book about waiting till the opponent is known, and the fact is that teams last year were allowed to sell the semi tickets as soon as the regular season had finished.
History shows be sceptical of the club, do they put the best interest of the fans first, not from previous no.

Why would they put themselves under pressure and maybe lose attendance from some fans? For some giggle at frustrated fans from the prank? If Moody is telling fibs I would imagine the league would step in to correct to protect their own image, so why don’t they?

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[Awaywego]

There were plenty of issues getting tickets last season SNOT twice the club never got back to me and others, the lad from York wanted a free one for his daughter having already bought one just for himself they failed to address the issue and he ended up not going himself in protest.

[Apollo11]

It is usual with the Iron and any other professional club that season ticket holders are given a period to buy a ticket for their normal seat or standing area. Any seats or spaces not claimed can then go on general sale.

Yes, that’s fair enough. I suppose with the on-sale window being so tight, the best the club could do is reserve season ticket holder’s seats for the first day of sale and then put them on general sale.

[Awaywego]

What makes you think the league the league even knows what Moody as said, and I’ll turn it round why hasn’t he put it on the Owp. Don’t get me wrong he might be right I will remain sceptical until announced.

[Siderite]

Twitter’s a public platform, where people will get information and any falsehoods would be damaging. If he’s said anything false he could be in hot water. Could the authorities have missed this? Maybe, but why would Moody take the risk of putting him and the club in the frame for needless bother caused by lying over something like this?

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[sufc_not_on_tour]

There’s a fair amount of moaning on here, it’s nothing compared to twitter, one guy has stated that the club not selling tickets until the National league will allow them to will knock “500+ off the attendance”.
I’m unsure how he knows this and furthermore why would the club who are desperate for every penny they can raise do this on purpose?
As I stated earlier, any genuine supporter who genuinely wants to be at the game will be!

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