Persuading players to drop down to NLN

[Ferrite]

Maybe I’ve just been scarred too much by the previous regime but is anyone else concerned about the club signing what is, currently, 5 players all from the division above the one we will be playing in next season?

Beyond the obvious what reason could there be for these players, some of whom played in the play-offs for promotion back to the Football League, choosing to drop into the 6th tier next season?

At best, it feels like a risky gamble which will presumably make promotion a necessity next year. Time will tell but we are definitely living in uncertain times.

[forever iron]

Just the same when Mullen left Cambridge after they went up and signed for Wrexham

[WonderGoals]

You’re saying that Ferrite but then again you’d moan if we signed cheap rubbish which you hadn’t heard of. You would have claimed we weren’t serious about making it straight back to the national league. I don’t think the club can win here.

What’s going on now is just what we need. Good players coming in early and have them all bed in. All too often we’ve had to scrabble around for players last minute when they haven’t been match fit and we’ve been on the back foot right from the off.

This is a refreshing change.

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[Ferrite]

WonderGoals wrote:

You’re saying that Ferrite but then again you’d moan if we signed cheap rubbish which you hadn’t heard of. You would have claimed we weren’t serious about making it straight back to the national league. I don’t think the club can win here.

This is a refreshing change.

You say this like there are only 2 options: spend too much, or spend too little. There is, of course, a third option which is to cut your cloth.

I’d be far less concerned if we were signing some of the best players from last season’s NLN. You’re right that it’s a good thing that we’re getting signings made early, no complaints there.

But is this a refreshing change or a repeat or past mistakes seen about 10 years ago?

[Awaywego]

Cut your cloth offers more years of dross players, not for me.

[Iron-awe]

Agree with WG ( yes I know it’s a rarity ) but if the club can get these type of players in and be sustainable then I say bring it on. We can still attract reasonable crowds next season and if we can get off to a flyer they could well sustain, different scenario to when Swann was spending stupidly on players and wage deals we could not live with even on crowds around the 5000 mark.

[Matty]

I’m not complaining. It’s great to see some god damn ambition and positivity after a long period of shite! Looking forward to next season now. Hopefully more good news to come re the land acquisition UTI!

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[Ferrite]

Iron-awe wrote:

Agree with WG ( yes I know it’s a rarity ) but if the club can get these type of players in and be sustainable then I say bring it on. We can still attract reasonable crowds next season and if we can get off to a flyer they could well sustain, different scenario to when Swann was spending stupidly on players and wage deals we could not live with even on crowds around the 5000 mark.

That’s the question isn’t it? If…

Matty wrote:

I’m not complaining. It’s great to see some god damn ambition and positivity after a long period of shite! Looking forward to next season now. Hopefully more good news to come re the land acquisition UTI!

The trouble is, look where this “ambition” got us last time.

[Iron-awe]

I guess you either take the owner at his word or not regarding sustainability Ferrite but the figures required to do so in NLN should not be anything like pushing from league one to the Championship, however time will tell as the saying goes.

[Lord Kitchener]

I’m hoping that the new land is just the new training grounds that we so desperately need, that Glanford Park is bought and paid for, and that the influx of decent (for NLN) players continues until we are able to put a proper footballing team together.

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[Awaywego]

We don’t desperately need a new training ground, just the same as we don’t need a new ground but it would be nice in town and all.

[Northumbiron]

forever iron wrote:

Just the same when Mullen left Cambridge after they went up and signed for Wrexham

Paddy Madden dropped two divisions to join Stockport County.

Beags was technically still a PL player when we signed him.

Not that unusual for players to look downwards for a new challenge.

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[Awaywego]

Nice to see players turning down offers from their parent clubs and moving to scunny.

[Ferrite]

Northumbiron wrote:

Not that unusual for players to look downwards for a new challenge.

“New challenge” almost ALWAYS means “pay rise”. Unless there are no other offers on the table, it means they’ve gone for a pay rise. Nothing wrong with that from the player’s point of view, of course.

[Iron Age]

Ferrite wrote:

Northumbiron wrote:

Not that unusual for players to look downwards for a new challenge.

“New challenge” almost ALWAYS means “pay rise”. Unless there are no other offers on the table, it means they’ve gone for a pay rise. Nothing wrong with that from the player’s point of view, of course.

Isn’t that the cause of the club’s current financial situation? The previous owner “gambled” on getting promotion to the Championship by paying more than the club could afford.

[RoamingBull]

JD has a budget that’s what we were told.

[Deereyme66]

I’d be shocked if he didn’t

[RoamingBull]

Deereyme66 wrote:

I’d be shocked if he didn’t

When was the last time we had a budget?

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[lesgeo]

Oh, sorry. I thought someone said ‘budgie’.
Still I’ll bet my last one such that – Zippy Joe the 2nd – was worth more than the monies put forward to cover our last two relegation seasons.

[Ferrite]

Iron Age wrote:

Isn’t that the cause of the club’s current financial situation? The previous owner “gambled” on getting promotion to the Championship by paying more than the club could afford.

Yep, that’s exactly the point of my OP. All feels eerily familiar to 10 years ago.

[WonderGoals]

Ferrite just going by what was said yesterday, we are to overspend in a bid to get straight back to National League but Dean has a budget and it will be sustainable.

This isn’t any of Swann’s carry on. I wouldn’t have thought so anyway. Yes we’ll be paying decent wages but haven’t paid a fee so far and just think we’ll stick to bringing in free transfers.

[Ferrite]

WonderGoals wrote:

Ferrite just going by what was said yesterday, we are to overspend in a bid to get straight back to National League but Dean has a budget and it will be sustainable.

Not quite sure how those two things go together – if we’re “overspending” then how is it “sustainable”?

WonderGoals wrote:

This isn’t any of Swann’s carry on. I wouldn’t have thought so anyway. Yes we’ll be paying decent wages but haven’t paid a fee so far and just think we’ll stick to bringing in free transfers.

I can’t remember now but did we pay many transfer fees under Swann’s regime? I don’t remember that being the case – the issue was always about the massive wage bill.

[Iron-awe]

Wasn’t it overspend to get out of NLN next season ( yeah I guess it’s a gamble) then go sustainable as Hilton wants a team promoted next season and be good enough for a top seven finish in the NL the following season? Wether that’s doable or not, pass 🤷

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[Awaywego]

Paid for Paddy and Kvv, Millwall fans at the time miffed that their club couldn’t compete with us for Kev them being a big club and all that.

[Deereyme66]

He’ll be saving some operating costs on reduced non playing staff. But some of that will be countered by hiring training and match day stadia. Bit of a conundrum. Unless…!!! A cunning plan, that cannot fail….hmm, what other option might there be?

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