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What no place for our goalscorer from Saturday and for me Rowe for all his inexperience is a safer bet than Millen.
Particularly in a game where we might have to defend for periods.
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Agree Beeston is a better footballer and more likely to score without the aid of penalties.
He works hard but does tire in games so I suspect he is one of the ones needing to improve his stamina before he starts regularly under Hill.
Also want to see him as a 10 rather than as a holding player. That job is for Pugh or Kenyon.
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This isn’t on hill. These players are gash. Taft was the worse display by a CB i’ve seen in years. Even Onaraise had a shocker, Loft & Jarvis shite, Pugh lightweight, you just cannot do much with these players – Will Swann getting duped by agents with shit players – who’d have thought a 21 yr old with f all knowledge getting duped!
We should’ve lost that 5 or 6 to 1. Orient will be gutted with their finishing – not 50/50 but gilt edged chances.
We need a new front line, 2 new CB’s and 2-3 midfielders.5 users thanked author for this post.
Shit. Again.
And points aren’t enough but it was a point from behind which have been very hard to come by.
Sign of a bit of toughening up? Maybe?
But if we’d lost that by 5 it wouldn’t have been an unfair result.
Far to much dead wood.
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I will buy the ticket if you also go if it’s not our last league game
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Les you might want to look at our defence for Orient’s goal – and for most of the one on one’s
look at the positioning of the CB’s – it doesn’t make for good viewing. Taft literally had no clue what he was supposed to be doing2 users thanked author for this post.
Alkazar, you ask if Hill is the answer, there is no manager on earth that can do anything with this verypoor squad, they are non-league standard, and I do not rate them as National League, they would be relegated even in that league.
It should and could have been 1-6, 1-7, 1-8 tonight, so hold back on your opinion of Hill, whoever contributed to forming this squad, be it Cox, Swann jun or Acunny Bunny, they should stay away from football management.O’HARA—8—Played very well an will probably never have so much to do again.
MILLEN—7–Thought he did very well tonight.
TAFT—5—Centre of defence was wide open.
ONARIASE–6 -Same comment as Taft, but one mark better.
O’MALLEY—5—Probably should have stayed on and Thompson subbed.
BEESTIN—7—Worked very hard tonight, should start games as said before.
KENYON—5—Did not see a lot from him in a poor midfield.
PUGH—5—Gives too many fouls away in attacking positions, not very good.
THOMPSON–4—Unimpreddef by him, beaten too easily, and poor passer.
JARVIS–4–Had a good first 15 mins, then nothing, very poor up front.
LOFT–3–He gets worse, cannot pass, no ball control and cannot shoot, rubbish!!SUBS—7–Livened the team up a bit, and Scrimshaw must be selected instead of Loft, and Thompson is not good, but where is young Wilson, he is not even on the bench, he should be brought on for the last 20 mins at the least.
REF—8 Very good ref and linesmen.
MANAGER—7—What the hell can anyone do with this lot, we should have been slaughtered tonight, but stole a point when the other two teams Carlisle and Oldham both lost, but Saturday against Bradford is going to be just as difficult, and Levi Sutton scored again tonight.
SUPPORTERS–8—They really are hardened fans. or possibly head cases right now for still being sat as the final whistle went.
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More than happy to take a point from that. How the hell Orient didn’t bag 4/5 I’ll never know.
Taft and Onarisie were dog mess tonight. Why do players like Taft regress so much whilst at the club?
The midfield diamond seemed too congested and no-one really knew how to play their position. No centre mids we’re covering the wide areas and left Thompson/Millen exposed all game.
The only real positive I can take from tonight was Scrimshaw’s Performance when he came on.
Alcazar- show me one post where anyone thought this would be a miraculous turnaround? Hill’s got some job on his hands and it’s damage limitation till January. Stop pinning this on the manager when he’s had 3 league games ffs.
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We got out of jail tonight alright but there was the odd glimpse of hope here and there, just an odd one or two. Orient for me the best league side so far at GP this season, quicker, stronger, good passing, great defending but finishing very poor thank goodness. If they find a decent goalscorer in January they could well finish as champions playing that kind of football. Shame O’Malley is injured again, doesn’t get much luck that lad. Having said all that we are a point nearer both Carlisle and Oldham after tonight so let’s be grateful for that.
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I agree with Cliff on this one, it was a point gained against a team that missed some sitters yet our keeper though he played well and was commanding in the air never had a serious shot to save, the chance that hit the post was comedy between our defenders losing the ball after getting each others way, Scrimshaw made a big difference but their players looked stronger than ours and agree with Hill about fitness but our defence gave me the jitters today and I can’t believe we got a draw after being overrun second half.
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Hold the front page. The Iron don’t have a team full of good players.
Seems to be a bit of a surprise to some posters on here. Where have you been the last three and a half seasons?
Keith Hill has had 17 days and 3 whole league games and we still concede chances to top 6 teams. What has the man been doing with his time.
What I saw tonight was a team with very little in the way of quality stand up and be counted against a very decent League 2 team and gain a point. Yes they rode their luck and better teams would have punished them. The good news is there are only 4 or 5 better teams in this League. Workrate and energy is all you have got to work with against better quality teams. Show those things against lesser teams and (some) results will come.
By all means criticise the events and people that got us in this mess but berating £500 quid a week footballers for their lack of quality is ridiculous. Especially from people that can’t be arsed to go and watch them.
Well done tonight lads for the shift you put in.
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Carlisle signed Howard on about seven games ago, six have been defeats.
Four out of their last seven have been clean sheets and Howard played in all of them.
So not as bad as you’d have us believe!
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First time I’ve been this season, and I have to say it was not as bad as I expected and I came away looking forward to going again.
The team but an effort in, and there were positive signs. However, our centre was soft and we were caught out once or twice, but our keeper was not worked hard.
We need to get the ball down and play more, we had some nice glimpses of this and we looked better when doing it. I thought they were a big physical team, but were poor and were not really looking to play but more lump it and use their height advantage. Their chances were more from our mistakes(except the goal)Beestin poor first half, better when deeper, Kenyon miles off fitness wise, some good performances and some positive sign
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Your points about the defence are certainly valid, IA, but I feel that this kind of situation occurs when CM and defenders are not even vaguely in synch.
Defenders are trying to cover too many options and it easily turns into a ragged, disjointed mess.
That’s when the holes appear.1 user thanked author for this post.
every time Orient broke forward in the second half they looked like scoring, especially after they brought Smyth on, luckily enough they didn’t have their shooting boots on, our defence were all over the place.
I don’t think any of our players apart from the keeper would get into the Orient team and basically we have a squad of bench warmers or reserves, couldn’t fault the effort but we are lightweight all over the pitch.1 user thanked author for this post.
Shocking display IMO, biggest robbery since Brinksmat! Massive hole between the 2 CBs all game, Taft, Thompson, Kenyon, Pugh, Loft & Jarvis terrible, the rest slightly better except the ‘keeper who was excellent (bizarrely he could have been MOM in a team that lost 6-1!!) Loft & Jarvis were so bad that O’Neil & KDT could start on Saturday and couldn’t be worse (could they?) There were a few bright spots when we actually passed the ball accurately and looked like a football TEAM but there needs to be much more of that if we’re to survive.
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