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  • #194959
    FerriteFerrite
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    As many had suspected and feared, the government will now not allow fans back into stadia on 1st October. What now for our league? What now for people who have bought season tickets with a view to going to games from October? How do lower league clubs survive this?

    #194965
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    This is not a very good sign for League 1 and 2 clubs, they have little tono income coming into their clubs, and there is no sign of the greedy big boys or the football league coming up with any help, they have sat on the situation for four months now, and seem to have turned their backs on things and will watch as clubs fold. It really sickens me to see their reaction to the crisis, but it was only the same picture when four months ago the Premier players were requested to take a 10% drop in wages in order for the lower league players to survive, they had a one off whip round for the NHS instead, which produced a poltry sum of £3 million, that was from over 2,400 Premier registered players, sum on £400,000 per week, they are greedy pathetic creatures.

    The question is who and when will the fist club be, a very sad situation caused by this bloody virus and being no fault of any of the lower league teams, some of which have struggled along for fifty, sixty or ever 100 years.

    Regarding season ticket holders, it looks as though we will just need to accept the situation and watch games on our computers, in my case my season ticket costs about £10 per game, so actually will not lose out, but full paying members will be hit in their pockets to the tune of an extra £10 per game for home matches, we can only pray that things improve a lot, but the chances of that look very grim, in fact just as grim as the pathetic Premier teams and their players.

    #194966
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    If the government don’t put a rescue package together, which they probably won’t because other businesses will say ” what about us” and quite right too, then it’s over. Sit back and wait for the end for football in this country as we have known it all our lives.

    #194968
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Is it worth clubs who can afford too purposely breaking FFP rules to avoid the short term cash flow problems of having no fans allowed?

    #194970
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Macclesfield folded with debts of £500,000. Gareth Bale is reputedly on £600,000 a week.

    But why should we be surprised that the mega-rich don’t help out the poor? After all, it happens outside the world of professional sport too.

    Branson, Murdoch, Martin et al squirrel they wealth away offshore and pay little or no UK tax.

    All those who bought a Sky Sports package are now finding out exactly what they paid for!

    #194971
    PaulSanfran49
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    Perhaps the fines for money laundering by HSBC could be use ?

    #194974
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    Been reading about the Colchester v Bolton game, Colchester sold 750 appr iFollow passes in which being the home club getting all the revenue, Bolton sold appr 2250 passes, Colchester got the money for 500 passes with Bolton getting the rest, so Bolton got more money than the home team, it it had been played with Supporters the home side would have got it all, the week before Colchester sold 350 passes for the game at Bradford so got nothing so I can see the bigger clubs having a better chance of survival than the smaller ones so fearing the worst for clubs like ours unless PS can cover it, so some people before you pull the Chairman down just remember if he doesn’t stand the losses we can easily join Macclesfield.

    #194985
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    The thing is regading ifollower passes, if a season ticket holswe gets a home match pass, the club does not get any extra cash from it, only passes bpught by non season ticket holders actually pay for it.

    The money received from ifollower is only a small amount compared to the vast cost the clubs face each week.

    #194993
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    I am a fully paid season ticket holder and am obviously losing out by watching home games on iFollow so to make myself feel better i also think of the savings am making when i pay for the away matches on ifollow. If i had travelled to Crawley i would have spent about £60 and lost most of the day on travelling. By paying £10 i got to watch the same match and still had the rest of the day spare to do as i please. I do understand those without season tickets are doing the same but at the end of the day i am spending less money to watch all of scunny’s matches this year than i would have ever in my life time so overall its not a bad situation to be in.

    #195001
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    Actually Random, with you saving that much money, would it make sense for you to make a donation to the SUFC of the amount of your savings mate??

    I am also saving about £6 on each home match plus probably three hours in time, but I do not manage to get to many away games, but its great to pay £10 and watch matches on the computer. But at the end of the day, it really is a big loss after attending Scunny games for 68 years, to have this taken away by some Chinese prick 7,000 miles away.

    Our worry now is, how long can the club survive?????

    #195013
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    after attending Scunny games for 68 years, to have this taken away by some Chinese prick 7,000 miles away.

    Or an English prick 170 miles away?

    #195015
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    When we played Newport it was the first league game I had missed at the Sands Siro since it was built, I felt sad on the day but at least I watched it on TV via the laptop, I have missed a FA Cup game and 4 or 5 League Cup and Micky Mouse Trophy games though.
    But like Barton the pass is the same as the season ticket, but saved on petrol and other oddments, and also won’t have to go to night matches on a cold winters night, though I would sooner have been there.

    #195018
    LawsihateyouLawsihateyou
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    I’m not doubting for a minute that the club are losing significant amounts of money due to this crisis, but I’d be interested to see exactly what the figures are in terms of matchday sales. Can a shareholder help with last year’s figures?

    If you take the above example – 1,250 ifollow passes is £12,500 (bigger clubs will get a lot more). But the costs of holding a match – police, stewards, other casual matchday staff etc is presumably zero.

    As I say, I’m not doubting we’re losing a lot – parking, food, programmes, memorabilia etc are also zero – I’m just interested to know exactly what the figures are.

    #195019
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    But they have stewards for some reason.

    #195025
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
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    Lawsihateyou, as a bit of an answer to your question, the club was reported to be losing £70,000 per week when supporters were allowed at games, so work out what the figue i after taking into consideration that gate money from 3,800 fans is missing.

    Northumbiron, I intended to quote China and leave you out of it pal.

    #195026
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    I’m not the one banning you from attending.

    Neither is anyone in China!

    #195062
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    An interesting article in the i newspaper today on the responsibility of Premier League clubs to EFL clubs in the light of the effects of Covid.

    https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/english-football-is-in-a-state-of-emergency-the-decisions-taken-now-will-impact-the-next-generation-659631

    #195063
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    I’m not doubting for a minute that the club are losing significant amounts of money due to this crisis, but I’d be interested to see exactly what the figures are in terms of matchday sales. Can a shareholder help with last year’s figures?

    If you take the above example – 1,250 ifollow passes is £12,500 (bigger clubs will get a lot more). But the costs of holding a match – police, stewards, other casual matchday staff etc is presumably zero.

    As I say, I’m not doubting we’re losing a lot – parking, food, programmes, memorabilia etc are also zero – I’m just interested to know exactly what the figures are.

    The accounts are publicly available: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00123622/filing-history

    The annual figure for gate receipts is around £1 million.

    There will be some costs to putting on games behind closed doors, such as stewards to stop people getting into the stadium area, people to run the ground (lights, cleaning, groundstaff, office staff, etc.) but you would assume fewer costs than a normal game.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t think clubs get the full £10 from iFollow, there’s a % for the company that provides the platform.

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