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August 3, 2022 at 9:43 am #241878
I now think that we shall survive in the NL. The squad is respectableish and the CM looks potentially stronger than any since Bish left. (Not saying much, though.)
Clearly, we are still a forward short and are in desperate need of someone with pace to burn.
The squad depth is the main question and, although I think we have a goodly number of young uns who can cover injuries – CB is still a worry for me. Ntlhe as CB? – Still not sure.
Three more in, please and, if good enough, should be able to aim for the top 10 – or a bit higher.August 3, 2022 at 9:58 am #241879It was plain to see that if we had gone into the season with the squad of youngsters we had early in preseason we would have been doomed before we even had kicked a ball.
The players we added will bring experience and still have something to offer especially guiding the young players in their first full season of professional football, can’t see us threatening the top places but hopefully we can get in and around the lower play of spots.
The National league is still a good standard with very experienced players in there, it will be a scrap at times with the likes of dorking, Woking and Maidenhead being difficult places to go, but then you have lots of ex league clubs in Wrexham,Oldham,Chesterfield,Notts County and York city.
York will be an interesting one, they will have big support and are on a roll from last season and will be playing in a brand new stadium so look forward to going there! All in all it’s is going to be a roller coaster of a season.
August 3, 2022 at 10:21 am #241883To play devil’s advocate, you could look at things like this:
– Young, inexperienced keeper, probably a downgrade on Watson of last season
– Boyce released by a club which finished just above relegation positions
– Butterfield the star signing not played much regular football in several seasons.
– A strike force with no track record to speak of at this level.
– Key midfield positions to be occupied by Hallam, Beestin & Feeney, all of whom have question marks over them.It’s definitely better than the position we were in at the end of May but I’m not sure yet that there is enough there to get us much higher than 18th. I hope you’re right though!
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August 3, 2022 at 10:36 am #241885Got to say what I have seen of Dewhurst he is as good as if not better then Rory, he definitely commands his area better the Rory, The fitness of some players is still a big question mark especially Hallam.
I remember Klopp saying about Sturridge in his early time at Liverpool “that there are injuries that stop you plying and there are injuries that stop your Brain thinking you can play with injuries” wether this is the case with Jordan don’t know but he has to surely make a decision soon on his career.
If he can’t be available to play more then half the games this season there has to be a big question make about his football career has there is no way someone will give him a contract even at semi pro level.
August 3, 2022 at 10:50 am #241888Got to say what I have seen of Dewhurst he is as good as if not better then Rory, he definitely commands his area better the Rory, The fitness of some players is still a big question mark especially Hallam.
That’s encouraging to hear, let’s hope it proves to be the case over the course of the season.
August 3, 2022 at 11:28 am #241892I don’t know why you’re lauding Hallam as a key player in a key position. I certainly don’t see him as that at all. Beestin and Feeney you can understand but Hallam ?
Boyce is more than solid enough. Butterfield has been fit through all pre season so he’s hardly put together with duct tape like Hallam. I don’t know where you get that Dewhurst is a downgrade from Watson from. Only worry for is if he picks up an injury and young Foster is left as back up.
Strike force is a worry but if we get another in who has some kind of track record then I’ll be alright.
Ferrite you’re without doubt one of the most pessimistic, negative fans on this forum…we went through this last week. Can’t you for once just try and be a little more positive with your out look ?
I know you’re naturally a glass half empty kind of character but come on Ferrite…least try and be a bit more positive.
August 3, 2022 at 11:36 am #241893When The Prawn leaves the positivity begins.
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August 3, 2022 at 11:43 am #241894When The Prawn leaves the positivity begins.
I don’t even think that would be enough for Ferrite !
August 3, 2022 at 11:50 am #241896I don’t know where you get that Dewhurst is a downgrade from Watson from. Only worry for is if he picks up an injury and young Foster is left as back up.
Lot less experienced, don’t think he’s played at this level before, still quite young. He might be better, he might be worse, we shall see.
Ferrite you’re without doubt one of the most pessimistic, negative fans on this forum…we went through this last week. Can’t you for once just try and be a little more positive with your out look ?
Do you know what “playing devil’s advocate” means?
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August 3, 2022 at 12:20 pm #241903Has Watson managed to get fixed up yet? We were told there would be loads of clubs queueing for his signature by some on here!
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August 3, 2022 at 12:50 pm #241907He’s still a free agent. I am not terribly surprised and I, for one, am pleased we have a new goalkeeper. He may be young, but so was Watson. We had years of give Watson a chance, he will come good, only for him never to reach great heights. Last season was an improvement, but let’s not kid ourselves; he was hardly of great quality.
A downside is that Dewhurst is on loan for one season, so is unlikely to be here long term, if he is good enough. However, it’s a fresh start and we can move beyond hoping Watson will show his worth, at long last.
August 3, 2022 at 1:35 pm #241911AnonymousInactiveOffline
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Topics: 100As 4 are relegated… I’d be happy to finish 20th.
Consolidation is the name of the game this year.August 3, 2022 at 2:36 pm #2419123 more signings to add strength in depth should be enough to get a lower mid table finish which is about where supporter expectation is.
My main concern is still goals; I have little faith in Nuttall from what I’ve seen so far and Hill’s latest interview seems to be painting Carver as more of a target man. Definitely need a winger and a striker through the door.
Additionally a lot depends on Taft, he was dreadfully poor last year and will be going into this season starting most games. Hopefully partnering with Boyce will bring out a different side.
August 3, 2022 at 2:43 pm #241913My main concern is still goals; I have little faith in Nuttall from what I’ve seen so far and Hill’s latest interview seems to be painting Carver as more of a target man
If Carver’s a target man, what does that make Nuttall?
August 3, 2022 at 2:58 pm #241915If Carver is a genuine target man and he is good enough for this league then we might be able to keep the ball in the oppositions half for long enough to create some chances.
Trying to think of the last time we took the field with a genuine target man. Apart from Toney’s brief spell I am struggling to think of one. Wootton could have done it but was never given a real go at it.
August 3, 2022 at 2:59 pm #241916August 3, 2022 at 3:54 pm #241919Surely Nuttall’s strength is being a target man? Given his movement – or lack of it!
August 3, 2022 at 7:27 pm #241921Surely Nuttall’s strength is being a target man? Given his movement – or lack of it!
If you remember last season Nuttall was playing the target man role last season and he was woefully poor in the air. Nuttall never looked like he had the mentality to play as a target man.
Ryan loft was something similar, he had all the attributes to be a target man but didn’t have it in him to play that role either. Nutall going from pre season likes to pull out wide and prefers to run the channels. Only problem with that is the fact he’s not in the box when he’s needed.
Nuttall needs a partner to play off and Carver might be the hard grafting target man “least that’s what he’s supposed to be” to bring the best out of him.
Last true target men we had were Jon Parkin and Super Torps. Joe Garner “who spent more time on the floor feigning injury” did a job as well.
August 3, 2022 at 7:31 pm #241922Liam Feeney named as Captain.
August 3, 2022 at 7:32 pm #241923Liam Feeney named as Captain.
I thought it may have been Boyce but that’s a good enough choice.
August 3, 2022 at 7:49 pm #241925Good choice Feeney, had to be one of the older heads in the squad, I think he will provide good leadership on and off the pitch.
August 3, 2022 at 8:44 pm #241928Has Watson managed to get fixed up yet? We were told there would be loads of clubs queueing for his signature by some on here!
Nope and he apparently played for a Sunday league team the other week.
August 3, 2022 at 9:08 pm #241929I wouldn’t mind taking him back on a cheap contract to act as backup to Dewhurst.
August 3, 2022 at 10:52 pm #241960I am not so optimistic about this season. There’s some dam good players in this league and it worries me Boyce is past it and too slow now.A couple of nippy forewords will kipper him all the time. From what I’ve seen on tv, it seems balls are pelted into the box all the time, and we need to be aware of set pieces, that was nearly the downfall of all the top clubs last season. Bottom half and survival will do me this season,and the pleasure of seen us win a few games
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August 4, 2022 at 10:55 am #241984If you remember last season Nuttall was playing the target man role last season and he was woefully poor in the air. Nuttall never looked like he had the mentality to play as a target man.
Ryan loft was something similar, he had all the attributes to be a target man but didn’t have it in him to play that role either. Nutall going from pre season likes to pull out wide and prefers to run the channels. Only problem with that is the fact he’s not in the box when he’s needed.
Funny, I could have sworn you were telling me all through January that we were getting a “big & nasty”.
August 4, 2022 at 11:06 am #241985Has Watson managed to get fixed up yet?
Having a quick trawl of the interweb it looks like the only player we released to get fixed up was Jarvis who’s gone to Torquay. Think I’d actually prefer him over Nuttall which says a lot!
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August 4, 2022 at 11:31 am #241986From Nuttall’s Wiki:-
“Premier League 2
After arriving on trial in July, Nuttall went on to contribute 14 goals in 15 appearances and gained two assists. It was after ten goals in seven games midway through October for the development squad that Nuttall was promoted into the first team, before dropping back down into the development squad towards the end of January 2018. On 12 May Nuttall was one of seven players nominated for Premier League 2 Player of the Season. Also, despite his 13 appearances in the Blackburn first team, Nuttall finished as the Premier League 2’s second-top goalscorer with 14 goals, behind Lukas Nmecha’s 15 strikes.”Shows what he might do at our new level maybe?
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August 4, 2022 at 11:40 am #241987Sam Burns got a lot of goals for Blackburn’s youth teams… Not sure it’s the most reliable bellweather.
August 4, 2022 at 12:06 pm #241990I doubt Ronaldo would have scored more than 3 or 4 playing for the teams we put out last season.
August 4, 2022 at 2:22 pm #242003I doubt Ronaldo would have scored more than 3 or 4 playing for the teams we put out last season.
Can you imagine the size of his tantrum after yet another cross disappeared behind the goal, on the way to the 7th defeat in a row? I reckon you could power the whole town on a sulk that size.
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