New Striker?

[Sanfran49]

The first player move needs to be Round Pegs in Round Holes, then drop any thought of 7 – 9 in defence ! 442 or 433 needs restoring then get the passing basics right.

And this talk of Luke Williams – it is not the way to go.

[cassidystash]

Bill said Saturday, Where is he? Has watching Saturday made him change his mind?

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Northumbiron, BarnardFoxtonBarker.., Awaywego

[billpuntonsghost]

Very surprised it hasn’t happened.

[Awaywego]

I’m not.

[lesgeo]

Where’s our even more needed, dominant CM player?

[WonderGoals]

lesgeo wrote:

Where’s our even more needed, dominant CM player?

Pretty sure were to sign Luke Williams who’s been training with us for the last 6 weeks. Butler is still signing players to play in his beloved 3/5/2 formation.

Telling you now, I can’t see this ending well.

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[cassidystash]

“a Buxton team that is now undefeated in six matches after worrying their fans by losing seven of the previous eight NLN fixtures.This remarkable reversal of form coincided with the arrival of talented Leeds United loanee Cian Coleman”

Will ours have a similar effect if and when he/they finally arrive?

[Apollo11]

cassidystash wrote:

“a Buxton team that is now undefeated in six matches after worrying their fans by losing seven of the previous eight NLN fixtures.This remarkable reversal of form coincided with the arrival of talented Leeds United loanee Cian Coleman”

Will ours have a similar effect if and when he/they finally arrive?

No.

[RoamingBull]

We needed two additions in several weeks ago.
Whether it would have changed things I’m not sure.

And if we were at the same point as now then it would have definitely highlighted more where the problem lies.

If only AB gave a different formation a shot several weeks ago too when things started going awry.

Lots of ifs.

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lesgeo

[Awaywego]

It was highlighted by the fans before the Scarborough game that we needed new additions when we turned up with no fit forwards.

Could have been us that signed Coleman but no we don’t want loan players do we.

[lesgeo]

I would guesstimate that 1 in 4 loanees we have signed has been very good for the club; a 2nd is perhaps better than what we had at the time; 3rd is a place filler and the 4th is a waste of space.

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[cassidystash]

As somebody said earlier, what harm can come if an initial 1 month loan is agreed. If he’s an improvement and plays regularly it benefits both clubs to extend. If he’s AB’s pick, not a Youmbi, then surely minimum risk and limited outlay. Would still prefer permanent signings but we’ll have to get what we can. (As long as they’re better than what we have)

[WonderGoals]

Butler was asked about signing young loan players too add to us and his response to idea came across to me as if he wasn’t interested in going down that route.

Signing a Luke Williams with a shocking injury record who previously plied his trade at a 2rd division Icelandic club seems more appealing to him. Talented, but he’s another who’s lightweight.

[Iron-awe]

If Williams does sign I hope his lightweight doesn’t weigh heavy on the treatment table, I’m not convinced he’ll last long in NLN.

[cassidystash]

How certain are we that it is Luke Williams? WG says he’s been training with us for 6 weeks so either we’re not sure about him or he’s been injured for 5 of them. Can’t believe there’s been no positive sighting mentioned in that time. He certainly doesn’t fit mistertonmick’s description of the mystery man that he spotted.

[mistertonmick]

I said there was a player in a track suit kicking about with the players before the game who I didn’t recognise, it could have been anyone, but certainly wasn’t Luke Williams or Joe Garner, I thought it was Barrows but different haircut

[CMC]

Ste on twitter has suggested Mark Beck Ex Darlington… that would be a good signing

[WonderGoals]

CMC wrote:

Ste on twitter has suggested Mark Beck Ex Darlington… that would be a good signing

A huge big and nasty who’s played against us before. Doesn’t fit Mick’s description. Could the player Mick saw have been Barrows in a wig ?. On a more serious note we need players of that ilk and could do with a midfield destroyer to go with him.

[SST]

Williams has been training with us for six weeks, so they have done well to keep it under wraps. He has impressed and they are just waiting on the international clearance.

Beck is certainly a target but he is on loan at Gateshead at the moment and is taking some convincing to drop to the NLN.

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cassidystash

[WonderGoals]

Can’t see beck coming then.

[Square Ball Bullimore]

George Doyle from Golcar United

[Apollo11]

Could the fact that a striker who we believe is being brought in to address a dip in form be partly responsible for the dip in form? He’s been training with us for six weeks – about the length of time we’ve been explicitly shite.

Is it possible that training has in some way revolved around integrating him into the team and fitting him in to the system – and, therefore, when he’s absent for actual league games there’s now ‘something important missing’ for the other players… And so it falls apart?

[RoamingBull]

Apollo11 wrote:

Could the fact that a striker who we believe is being brought in to address a dip in form be partly responsible for the dip in form? He’s been training with us for six weeks – about the length of time we’ve been explicitly shite.

Is it possible that training has in some way revolved around integrating him into the team and fitting him in to the system – and, therefore, when he’s absent for actual league games there’s now ‘something important missing’ for the other players… And so it falls apart?

NO.

[Apollo11]

NO.

This is really quite narrow-minded of you. There is possibly a degree of truth in it. If over the last six weeks they’ve been trained to incorporate the strengths (plus quirks) of this new player, and then he’s not there on an actual match day… it would require a bit of mental adjustment.

[Iron-awe]

Well if it is Williams whose been training with us for the last six weeks, he wasn’t a striker last time around with us, just another midfielder and we have plenty of those, well a certain type anyway.

[RoamingBull]

Apollo11 wrote:

NO.

This is really quite narrow-minded of you. There is possibly a degree of truth in it. If over the last six weeks they’ve been trained to incorporate the strengths (plus quirks) of this new player, and then he’s not there on an actual match day… it would require a bit of mental adjustment.

Quit the Narrow minding!
A degree. You’ve got half a degree.
That’s my view No.

Can you truly say we’ve played well all season bar the coincidental last 6 weeks.
And you think we’ve been trying to shoehorn Messi into this shower.

Gimme a break.

Remember the times it’s been stated can’t wait for the shackles to come off? Think the leaded divers boots have been donned.

And that’s the beauty of a forum. Views differ somewhat!!

[Apollo11]

RoamingBull wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

NO.

This is really quite narrow-minded of you. There is possibly a degree of truth in it. If over the last six weeks they’ve been trained to incorporate the strengths (plus quirks) of this new player, and then he’s not there on an actual match day… it would require a bit of mental adjustment.

Quit the Narrow minding!
A degree. You’ve got half a degree.
That’s my view No.

Can you truly say we’ve played well all season bar the coincidental last 6 weeks.
And you think we’ve been trying to shoehorn Messi into this shower.

Gimme a break.

Remember the times it’s been stated can’t wait for the shackles to come off? Think the leaded divers boots have been donned.

I haven’t said we’ve played well before the last six weeks. But the last few games have been remarkably bad, things have dropped off a cliff. There is a reason, or fatal combination of reasons, and I was adding one in to the pot of possibilities.

[RoamingBull]

Tbh Apollo as I’m not around all the time I only see 50% of the games.

But what I have witnessed was us take the upper hand early in the season to then be well and truly outfoxed by well organised teams.

But it’s not been particularly difficult.

Warrington was an early game I watched. They ran the midfield and that’s where our problems are.
Oh and the sieve like defence which strangely enough is rather apparent.

Just teams started slow.
Tortoise and Hare

[Apollo11]

RoamingBull wrote:

Just teams started slow.
Tortoise and Hare

Agree with you. I think this is another of the reasons in the ‘fatal combination’.

[MK Iron]

Unless his game has changed significantly since he was here before he plays either where Roberts or Beestin play. Not as good as the first and not as reliable or hard working as the second.

Certainly not the silver bullet for the 5-3-2 system.

Hope he’s not a replacement for a departing Roberts in January.

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