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Ferrite, you forgot to mention that Keith Hill is having to select his team from the same squad of players that Cox brought into the club, most of whome are not league two standard, he cannot select his team from new players because Swann maintains the Football Leeagues embargo.
Everyone can see that the fitness has improved vastly, but at the end of the day it is the same playing squad, and 80% of them are bloody rubbish, you can improve fitness, but basic skills have to be there in the first place, anyway Ferrite you will get your wish and the point you are trying to promote shortly, because I cannot see Hill being here still May!!!, I am sorry to say.
Maybe Cox will be brought back to suit you pal, because he will never get a job anywhere else, and he has experience of non-league football, he was assistant manager of a team in that league when Swann employed him, much to our horror.
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because I cannot see Hill being here still May!!!, I am sorry to say.
yes i must agree with that .. although the NL does have some larger well ran clubs with big budgets and good managers ..( example Challinor at Stockport ) i cant see Hill wanting to carry on working with Swann as its a job where his hands are tied and basically a road to no where so come the end of the season (or even before) i would expect him to walk , SUFC could well find themselves in the NL or lower for decades
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We started at Exeter with SIX young/inexperienced/relatively inexperienced players in the starting line-up.
O’Malley, Rowe, Matheson, Burns, Jarvis & Pugh.
It asks an incredible amount of these lads to be able save the Iron’s season.
They are all undercooked and in a proper squad, a nine to two ratio of experience to inexperience might possibly have been acceptable.
But a ratio of five to six is as incredible as it is horrific.You cannot run a League Two team on a National League North budget.
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Actually, it is worse than I thought. Hackney must be added to the list, as well.
A ratio of four to seven.
These seven are as ill-served by the club leadership as are the fans.
In a proper setup, most might make the grade but they are being sold short too.
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anyway Ferrite you will get your wish and the point you are trying to promote shortly, because I cannot see Hill being here still May!!!, I am sorry to say.
Where have I said I want Cox back?
My point is more that everyone thinks Hill is doing a good job – and he is – yet the overall improvement is barely noticeable and we’re still going to go down.
Les – good point, you could also add Onarise & Hippolyte to that list in some ways because they’ve played relatively few Football League games for their respective ages.
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Maybe after relegation Hill ( if he’s still here ) could be kept on as site foreman. I think he would be excellent at directing excavators and bulldozers to the parts of the GP land being redeveloped first. He wouldn’t allow tardiness of any kind on his site and you would probably see a new development rise in record time. The chairman then will proudly announce ” see I’ve delivered my promised redevelopment “.
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Ferrite—-When reading your post, it clearly is saying that the two records of Cox and Hill are about the same, so does this not suggest that you are pointing out that theere is no difference in the two managers!!!!!!, it certainly does to me.
Did you read the full post fella? If so, you’ll have seen this bit:
“I think every Iron fan would agree that we look better under Hill yet we’re still absolutely terrible and average under a point a game. So what does that say about how bad a squad we have? About where the actions of the board over the last few years have brought us?”
My point is changing the manager, improving the manager, does not seem to have actually improved the team. That’s pretty worrying, no?
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I think Hill has improved the team, sadly not enough to have improved the results.
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I think Hill has improved the team, sadly not enough to have improved the results.
He’s no magician. I just don’t think this group collectively have the ability to be able to compete at league level.
This is what you get when you’re struggling and due to a chairman doing it on the cheap, have a team littered with inexperienced kids.
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They do not have the required pedigree. How far we have fallen when we wax lyrical about Hippolyte or Beestin,
they only look marginally better because they play alongside really poor players. How many of this squad would walk into any other league two team? O’Malley, maybe Pugh that’s it.It keeps coming back to Swann junior and his agent friend – I still cannot believe it is real…. head of recruitment – there is no defence. The two who could make it had nothing to do with young Swann
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I really don’t want to put a downer on a young player trying to make a career in football but Pugh shouldn’t be walking into our team. Hill’s idea that the more you run the more chance you have of winning games has limited appeal for me. I’d far rather see some players who can use their brain, control the ball, pass accurately and shoot straight.
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I liked Perry in the no 10 role as he has that bit of passing ability and quality but never seems to get a look in now. Pugh runs around a lot but he’s not as good as Beestin and Beestin was only signed from Tadcaster for crying out loud.
Wood shouldn’t even still be here, he should be back at Hull as he’s no better than what we have. Hackney I quite like.
Kenyon seems to be frozen out now too as he has the experience we need.
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You guys can keep quoting player after player, but it boils down at the end of the day “that there are not enough good players in this squad that can form a team that can remain in the Football League.
Cox and the Swanns have assembled a very poor set of players that have very little skill, no ball control, simp;le passing of the ball, and the worst shooting or goal scoring that any SUFC team have ever had in my 70 years of supporting them!!!!!!
It is game over, and only Swann can alter the situation, but we all know that he will do nothing until it is too bloody late, which could be by the end of January the way it is going. His continual reference to Covid as an excuse has passed it’s sell by date, does he exect supporters to believe that this virus has only happened in Scunthorpe, what a load more of his crap!!!!
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Thirteen days left and with no new arrivals imminent I guess the present manager could well bounce out of here next month, can’t say I blame him if he does.
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Tonight’s results mean that only Colchester are now fairly easily caught, and even they have a game in hand.
The others are six and seven points clear of us.
Going down.
Without a fight.
I’ve supported this club for almost 60 years, and have NEVER seen a poorer side, one so likely to roll over.
And when we go, we’ll not be back in my lifetime.
Cheers for everything, Swanns, the whole lot of you aren’t fit to wipe my firm but pliant.5 users thanked author for this post.
I cannot see that “how ever many games Alcazar has attended this season” is any way what so ever to do with the present situation? He is probably like the missing 2,000 ex-supporters that have been sickened to witness the way that our once loved club have sunk during the past three years.
He is also correct in what he, others and myself have been saying all season, that with Cox being kept on, we are doomed, and after tonights results just take a look at the table:-
BARROW PLAYED 24——-POINTS 26
COLCHESTER PLAYED 24——-POPINTS 22
SCUNTHORPE PLAYED 25——-POINTS 19
OLDHAM PLAYED 24——-POINTS 18Well done Mr Swann, you have done wonders, and just a reminder, that Covid has also been present in the towns of the other twenty teams that are above us four in League Two!!
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Cheers for everything, Swanns, the whole lot of you aren’t fit to wipe my firm but pliant.
If you’ve been following the Iron for 60 years and it’s still firm but pliant then that’s something else you’ve been fibbing about!
Colchester and Oldham finishing below us will do for me!
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pretty much nailed on that there wont be anymore significant additions to the squad .. by that i mean 3 plus new faces including a decent striker .. also a cert is the fact when we do go down Swann will blame covid and the fans before looking in the mirror at the piss poor way he has raped the club and lied constantly …. even down to the money grab for Loft without a replacement.
Miracles do happen but not with this current bunch .. i feel for Kieth Hill.
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If you’ve been following the Iron for 60 years and it’s still firm but pliant then that’s something else you’ve been fibbing about!
Colchester and Oldham finishing below us will do for me!
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Twood do for me also ..but do you think we are currently better than both of them .. i dont and Oldham have strengthened in the last week or so ..(not sure about Colchester).
Sad to say n i hate being a doom n gloom merchant im more of the thinking Scunny will fall away and finish bottom by a margin …leaving them two to fight over the remaining NL place.
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We’re no better than clubs in NL(N). And I’ve seen a few of them in recent seasons.
And as we couldn’t score on Love Island we’ve no chance of overtaking anyone.
But until it’s a mathematical certainty (probably mid March) I’ll continue to dream!
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BARROW PLAYED 24——-POINTS 26
COLCHESTER PLAYED 24——-POPINTS 22
SCUNTHORPE PLAYED 25——-POINTS 19
OLDHAM PLAYED 24——-POINTS 18Well done Mr Swann, you have done wonders, and just a reminder, that Covid has also been present in the towns of the other twenty teams that are above us four in League Two!!
And UTI & his mate STILL refuse to accept Swann is at fault!
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…and they always will Pat.
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