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    Staines MassiveStaines Massive
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    Looking at the teams in the National League and if it remains just 1+1 promoted then Scunthorpe may never get back in the league.

    #231951
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    Some far bigger and better supported clubs than us have spent years trying to get out of there.

    #231952
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    Teams that come back into the League from the National League come back stronger, I am sure we will from National League North in a few years time

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    #231955
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    Some good local(ish) games in Stockport, Grimsby, Chesterfield, Notts County, Halifax. Few more London Games and some teams we will never have seen.

    Losing our league status is no longer a pressing concern, it will be nice to not go 15 games without a win and see some
    More goals/entertainment; whether that’s against Tranmere or Maidenhead makes no difference.

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    #231956
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    Agree , all be it im still hoping for the miracle its pretty obvious its NL here we come and for sure a league very difficult to get out of at the right end…
    My most pressing concern is the club going into admin folding and not existing at all.. i will be a Scunny fan til i die regardless where they play but the thought of them being no more is very haunting.

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    #231969
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    As I’ve stated before, I do respect the optimism of some, but a few on here seem to be thinking we’ll drop into non league and then easily hold our own.

    Two points:

    Ask York how easy it is/was.
    Not on this budget, we won’t.

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    #231972
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    ….or Darlington. Rushden & Diamonds anyone?

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    #231974
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    i agree i think we will struggle badly in the NL .. quite easily go the way of Darlo n York etc.

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    #231976
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    Swanny till i die.What that man and his family have done to the club i have supported for 55years will never be forgotten.

    #231979
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    ….or Darlington. Rushden & Diamonds anyone?

    Alternatively we could be like Hartlepool. Trying to be positive. :-)

    #231983
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    Ducked out of going to see Darlo v Chester yesterday.

    PS it wasn’t at the “Reynolds” Arena!

    #231986
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    I don’t know why some supporters think that we will be ok if we drop into non-league football. We definitely WON’T with the SWANN family still owning our Club. There would have to be some massive changes. = New owners, bigger playing budget. Even with changes its is very, very difficult to re-gain league status and I would imagine our Club would be folded. With SWANNS track record surely everyone must realize now that him and his family have no interest whatsoever in Scunthorpe United existing as football club.

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    #231988
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    ….or Darlington. Rushden & Diamonds anyone?

    Alternatively we could be like Hartlepool. Trying to be positive. :-)

    The Darlo quote was merely stating how long term football league teams can struggle or even fall further then one tier down if you are owned by incompetent people. I believe Darlo’s problems began when a former jailbird took them over and had big ideas above the club’s capabilities that involved actually building a brand new ground they could not afford and it all went tits up. The Rushden mention was referring to what happens when the money runs out and the club folds. Don’t forget GP is ripe for redevelopment and it doesn’t have to be anything to do with football either. People who build up debts due to mismanagement often look for another way to recoup their losses with all previous ventures often the victim.

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    #231991
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    I don’t know why some supporters think that we will be ok if we drop into non-league football. We definitely WON’T with the SWANN family still owning our Club. There would have to be some massive changes. = New owners, bigger playing budget. Even with changes its is very, very difficult to re-gain league status and I would imagine our Club would be folded. With SWANNS track record surely everyone must realize now that him and his family have no interest whatsoever in Scunthorpe United existing as football club.

    I don’t think it’s the fact that everyone is thinking it’s ok, probably closer to the fact that we need some optimism to keep us attending games, or else what’s the point ?

    Southend are in a worse position than us, both on and off the field and seem to have galvanised themselves recently. Oldham have fallen from greater heights than ourselves and have an owner who really doesn’t give a f**k, yet their away support the other week was fantastic.

    Every opinion from a Scunthorpe I’ve spoken too/read on here and elsewhere all know we are in non-league for the long haul, and the national league may not be the point we bottom out; but at some point you’ve got to accept the situation and support the club in whatever way you can.

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    #231992
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    In my opinion we won’t be able to compete in non-league football whilst the SWANNS are still here. I fact I will be very surprised if we still have an existing Scunthorpe United Football Club. SWANN has said several times he is not going to put any more money into our Club and the budget he has made is not going to fund any decent players. He says we have to be self sustainable. This is not going to happen as you only have to look at the gates now. If we drop out of the football league the gates will drop even much more and I feel our existence depends on us avoiding the drop. The outlook is very bleak indeed unless by some miracle we can start winning matches back to back.

    #231994
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    Part time next season?

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    Part time or into administration.

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    #232004
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    Clubs that bounce back tend to do so within the first couple of seasons after relegation. Beyond that, it gets much more difficult. Anyone reckon we’ll be competitive in the Conference next season?

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    #232005
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    Clubs that bounce back tend to do so within the first couple of seasons after relegation. Beyond that, it gets much more difficult. Anyone reckon we’ll be competitive in the Conference next season?

    No

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    #232008
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    Looking at the NL table again its very very difficult to call who will be promoted from this season.. any of the top 10 in with a shout

    #232010
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    I don’t know why some supporters think that we will be ok if we drop into non-league football. We definitely WON’T with the SWANN family still owning our Club. There would have to be some massive changes. = New owners, bigger playing budget. Even with changes its is very, very difficult to re-gain league status and I would imagine our Club would be folded. With SWANNS track record surely everyone must realize now that him and his family have no interest whatsoever in Scunthorpe United existing as football club.

    I don’t think it’s the fact that everyone is thinking it’s ok, probably closer to the fact that we need some optimism to keep us attending games, or else what’s the point ?

    Southend are in a worse position than us, both on and off the field and seem to have galvanised themselves recently. Oldham have fallen from greater heights than ourselves and have an owner who really doesn’t give a f**k, yet their away support the other week was fantastic.

    Every opinion from a Scunthorpe I’ve spoken too/read on here and elsewhere all know we are in non-league for the long haul, and the national league may not be the point we bottom out; but at some point you’ve got to accept the situation and support the club in whatever way you can.

    1. There is no point trying to support an organisation whose owner no longer cares.

    2. We don’t HAVE to accept the situation, we can walk. I’ll always want my club to do well, but like a kicked dog, eventually I’ll bite.

    #232011
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    It is very hard to separate the two.

    By supporting the club (in the way UTI99 talks about) you’re effectively supporting the ownership.

    Go against the owner and you’re seen as going against the club.

    That’s why it’s easy for Swann to blame the fans (just as easy as it is to blame Covid).

    I can’t see anything changing for the better under his stewardship.

    #232012
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    There’s a middle ground where I believe people can still support the club and yet still be in opposition to the hierarchy.

    #232013
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    It’s a perpetual viscious circle.

    #232014
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    I don’t know DM, just a pack of bloody dogs mate. 🐕😠

    #232016
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    There’s a middle ground where I believe people can still support the club and yet still be in opposition to the hierarchy.

    Indeed. Which is why I wrote “seen as going against the club”.

    An owner who says “this is your club” is different to one who says “this is my club”.

    The former unites fans, the latter alienates them.

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    #232018
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    There’s a middle ground where I believe people can still support the club and yet still be in opposition to the hierarchy.

    I would like to believe that but I’m not sure how you can show your dissatisfaction with the ownership whilst still turning up to games and handing over your hard-earned? Because money is what really counts.

    I must admit, it’s very strange to see how apathetic supporters are at home games – virtually no protests, just a resigned acceptance.

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    #232020
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    I must admit,it’s very strange to see how pathetic supporters are at home games- virtually no protests, just a resigned acceptance.

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    #232021
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    Financial Fair Play comes into operation next season I believe in the National League.

    #232022
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    There’s a middle ground where I believe people can still support the club and yet still be in opposition to the hierarchy.

    I would like to believe that but I’m not sure how you can show your dissatisfaction with the ownership whilst still turning up to games and handing over your hard-earned? Because money is what really counts.

    I must admit, it’s very strange to see how apathetic supporters are at home games – virtually no protests, just a resigned acceptance.

    Scunthorpe fans often do themselves a disservice with the lack of organisation; even the very mild ‘protest’ at the forest green game when the gates were locked drew enough media attention to force Swann into holding face-face meetings with shareholders/ season ticket holders.

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