National League North

[Anonymous]

Eight former EFL ‘giants’ are plying their trade at that level this season.

When you think it can’t get any worse – it could!

[vader]

It could and it will!

The only way to stop the drop is to be rid of Swann and Hill.

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inspector, alcazar

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

The national league north seems to be league where basket cases reach rock bottom on terms of the football pyramid; If you don’t have things sorted there, the next drop is liquidation.

[Siderite]

To be fair, many of those former league clubs in that division are phoenix clubs who have risen to that level.

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Mirrorman

[Northumbiron]

Anonymous wrote:

Eight former EFL ‘giants’ are plying their trade at that level this season.

Not entirely correct!

Chester, Hereford, Darlington, Scarborough are all Phoenix Clubs, reformed from the ashes of sides that went to the wall.

They came up through the Unibond leagues to reach the dizzy heights of NL(N).

We may well have to do the same.

[MK Iron]

Interesting no former League clubs in the National League South. The north south divide applies to football clubs as well?

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[Anonymous]

Northumbiron wrote:

Renee.Artois wrote:

Eight former EFL ‘giants’ are plying their trade at that level this season.

Not entirely correct!

Chester, Hereford, Darlington, Scarborough are all Phoenix Clubs, reformed from the ashes of sides that went to the wall.

They came up through the Unibond leagues to reach the dizzy heights of NL(N).

We may well have to do the same.

True but the parallels remain.

Here’s what Darlington got for about a £1m.

https://darlingtonfc.co.uk/about/your-guide-to-matchdays-at-blackwell-meadows

[Steve]

Giants?

[Anonymous]

The ‘Event Horizon’ is nearer after today.

One step (game) at a time.

The die is cast.

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alcazar

[ironfromafar]

My crystal ball was all steamed up today as it cleared i saw the future.. NLN with new owners and a large building where a football ground used to be.
I had a dream also .. Hill was fine tuning his tactics selections and formation of the vegetables on his alloment in Lancs .. alas the carrots n tattys got mixed up withe turnips ..
As previously used by Mr Cantona ..when thecseaguls fly over the trawler bla bla bla

Hill.you driven me to drink .. applogies

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alcazar

[Anonymous]

I had a tarot reading yesterday and it was very accurate.
I may ask the tarot reader for a reading for the club.

[Iron-awe]

Lorry driver picked up a girl hitch hiker. She must have been a witch because she touched his cock and he turned into a lay-by.

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alcazar

[Deereyme66]

So many witches in tennis these days. Like that Goran, Ivanisevic!

Old Peter Kay quip…

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alcazar

[Iron-awe]

Well tonight we’ve had crystal ball gazing and tarot cards mentioned, I thought I’d throw a bit of witchcraft in for good measure DM.

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Deereyme66

[Deereyme66]

Certainly some witchhunting going on tonight.

[Pat O’Cake]

Anonymous wrote:

Northumbiron wrote:

Renee.Artois wrote:

Eight former EFL ‘giants’ are plying their trade at that level this season.

Not entirely correct!

Chester, Hereford, Darlington, Scarborough are all Phoenix Clubs, reformed from the ashes of sides that went to the wall.

They came up through the Unibond leagues to reach the dizzy heights of NL(N).

We may well have to do the same.

True but the parallels remain.

Here’s what Darlington got for about a £1m.

https://darlingtonfc.co.uk/about/your-guide-to-matchdays-at-blackwell-meadows

A serious question, could we get 3,000 fans to stick £350 into a new club?

[cassidystash]

No, but if we did then what?

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alcazar

[Pat O’Cake]

cassidystash wrote:

No, but if we did then what?

We do as others have done and start from scratch.

[Iron-awe]

£500 would be nearer the mark then get some local businessmen/women back involved to once again to become a locally engaged club not a millionaires play thing.

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alcazar

[Anonymous]

A serious question, could we get 3,000 fans to stick £350 into a new club?

3,000 at £1k = £3M

1,000 at £3k = £3M

[W4rdie]

A.F.C Scunthorpe Anyone ??

[Deereyme66]

Sporting Scunthorpe

[IronIronIron]

Deereyme66 wrote:

So many witches in tennis these days. Like that Goran, Ivanisevic!

Old Peter Kay quip…

It was Tim Vine

[Anonymous]

What sort of wages do players pick up in NLN?

£20K a year?

A squad of 20 would equate to £400k a year on players wages alone.

Could a club operate with a non playing staff of 20 (coaches & office & groundsmen) on say £600k a year?

That’s a million quid already!

Academy? – how would that be funded?

Turnstile money would be way short of operating costs.
The commercial people would have to be the stars of the show bringing in sponsorship money to cover the deficit.

Big challenge!

[Pat O’Cake]

Anonymous wrote:

What sort of wages do players pick up in NLN?

£20K a year?

A squad of 20 would equate to £400k a year on players wages alone.

Could a club operate with a non playing staff of 20 (coaches & office & groundsmen) on say £600k a year?

That’s a million quid already!

Academy? – how would that be funded?

Turnstile money would be way short of operating costs.
The commercial people would have to be the stars of the show bringing in sponsorship money to cover the deficit.

Big challenge!

There are currently 24 clubs managing to do it, and we wouldn’t start at that level.

[Northumbiron]

Depends on the club’s heritage.

No surprise Gateshead and York came up last season as they’re run like an EFL setup. Plus the stadia are multi-use. Gateshead is used for athletics and has other facilities on site and the new LNER stadium at York has swimming pool, gym, bowling alley, library, cafe and outdoor all-weather pitches.

Spennymoor and Blyth on the other hand are not much of a step up from your average CIU Club. Other than a portacabin club shop there’s nothing else on site. And you don’t need reminding how good the food is!

And these are just four ground I’ve been to in the last 12 months.

If it were managed properly GP would be fine. However, if it were to be taken off us and we had to start up elsewhere, it could be a real struggle. And from what I have seen, clubs that just break even don’t win leagues.

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[Awaywego]

Brumby hall would be fine all the sports you could want ready made club house changing rooms training facilities and enough land for an 100,000 seater stadium should we need it, the present arrangement would suffice to start with.

[Anonymous]

Awaywego wrote:

Brumby hall would be fine all the sports you could want ready made club house changing rooms training facilities and enough land for an 100,000 seater stadium should we need it, the present arrangement would suffice to start with.

Yeah, we’d fill a 100 seater stadium.

[Anonymous]

Average attendances this season.

1 Kidderminster Harriers 2,147
2 Hereford 2,070
3 Chester 1,956
4 Scarborough Athletic 1,577
5 Darlington 1,457
6 Boston United 1,391
7 Spennymoor Town 1,279
8 AFC Telford United 1,167
9 Banbury United 1,015
10 Chorley 1,009
11 King’s Lynn Town 998
12 Southport 957
13 AFC Fylde 874
14 Gloucester City 766
15 Blyth Spartans 742
16 Buxton 727
17 Brackley Town 616
18 Kettering Town 602
19 Leamington 556
20 Bradford (Park Avenue) 499
21 Alfreton Town 497
22 Farsley Celtic 463
23 Peterborough Sports 382
24 Curzon Ashton 370

We’d possibly be ‘the big boys’ next season?

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BobbyGmeister

[f row crew]

I would say our crowds would be somewhere between 1000 and 1500 unless Elliott’s army are storming it !

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