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April 19, 2022 at 10:19 am #236022AnonymousInactiveOffline
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Topics: 1001986-87 The first season of automatic relegation from Division Four and automatic promotion from the newly sponsored Vauxhall Conference.
Division Four
1986-87 Lincoln City FS 1st (P)
1987-88 Newport County FS Folded, Expelled & Expunged
1988-89 Darlington FS 1st (P)
1989-90 Colchester United FS 2ndFootball League Third Division
1992-93 Halifax Town FS 13th
1996-97 Hereford United FS 6th
1997-98 Doncaster Rovers FS 16th
1998-99 Scarborough FS 4th
1999-00 Chester City FS 8th
2000-01 Barnet FS 5th
2001-02 Halifax Town FS 8th2002-03 Exeter City FS 6th
2002-03 Shrewsbury Town FS 3rd2003-04 Carlisle United FS 3rd (P)
2003-04 York City FS 17thFootball League Two
2004–05 Kidderminster Harriers FS 15th
2004-05 Cambridge United FS 12th2005–06 Oxford United FS 2nd
2005-06 Rushden & Diamonds FS 12th2006–07 Boston United FS Relegated direct to Conference North
2006-07 Torquay United FS 3rd2007–08 Mansfield Town FS 12th
2007-08 Wrexham FS 10th2008–09 Chester City FS Folded & Expelled February 2010
2008-09 Luton Town FS 2nd2009–10 Darlington FS 7th
2009-10 Grimsby Town FS 11th2010–11 Lincoln City FS 17th
2010-11 Stockport County FS 16th2011–12 Macclesfield Town FS 11th
2011-12 Hereford United FS 6th2012–13 Aldershot Town FS 19th
2012-13 Barnet FS 8th2013–14 Bristol Rovers FS 2nd (P)
2013-14 Torquay United FS 13th2014–15 Cheltenham Town FS 1st (P)
2014-15 Tranmere Rovers FS 6th2015–16 York City FS 21st
2015-16 Dagenham & Redbridge FS 4th2016–17 Hartlepool United FS 15th
2016-17 Leyton Orient FS 13th2017–18 Barnet FS 13th
2017-18 Chesterfield FS 15th2018–19 Notts County FS 3rd
2018-19 Yeovil Town FS 4th2019–20 Macclesfield Town FS Wound Up & Ejected.
2020–21 Southend United
2020-21 Grimsby TownOnly FIVE clubs have bounced back to the EFL in their first season.
The average place of a freshly relegated EFL club is 12th.
April 19, 2022 at 10:44 am #236027Sounds about right. 12th place is mid table consolidation.
How many achieve promotion in their 2nd/3rd season?
Of those clubs who have gone out and returned (eg Luton), what’s the average number of seasons spent in non-league?
April 19, 2022 at 3:38 pm #236053Of those clubs who have gone out and returned (eg Luton), what’s the average number of seasons spent in non-league?
Number of seasons out of the Football League:
Lincoln City 1
Newport County 25
Darlington 1
Colchester United 2
Aldershot 16 (Expelled December 1991 and wound up March 1992)
Maidstone United 30 (Resigned 17.8.92 and wound up.)
Halifax Town 5
Hereford United 9
Doncaster Rovers 5
Scarborough 23 (Wound up 20.6.07)
Chester City 4
Barnet 4
Halifax Town 20
Exeter City 5
Shrewsbury Town 1
York City 8
Carlisle United 1
Kidderminster Harriers 17
Cambridge United 9
Oxford United 4
Rushden and Diamonds 16 (Expelled from Conference 11.6.11 and wound up.)
Boston United 15
Torquay United 2
Mansfield Town 5
Wrexham 14
Chester City 13
Luton Town 5
Darlington 12
Grimsby Town 6
Stockport County 11
Lincoln City 6
Macclesfield Town 6
Hereford United 10
Barnet 2
Aldershot Town 9
Bristol Rovers 1
Torquay United 8
Cheltenham Town 1
Tranmere Rovers 3
Dagenham & Redbridge 6
York City 6
Hartlepool United 4
Leyton Orient 2
Chesterfield 4
Barnet 4
Yeovil Town 3
Notts County 3
Macclesfield Town 2 (Wound up 16.9.20)
Bury 2 (Expelled from League 1 27.8.19 + wound up)
Southend 1
Grimsby 1April 20, 2022 at 11:41 am #236103AnonymousInactiveOffline
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Topics: 1001986-87 The first season of automatic relegation from Division Four and automatic promotion from the newly sponsored Vauxhall Conference.
The Relegated Clubs:
1986-87 Lincoln City: 1 season – champions
1987-88 Newport County: Folded, Expelled & Expunged. Phoenix club Newport County AFC formed. 25 years to return to the EFL
1988-89 Darlington: 1 season – champions
1989-90 Colchester United: 2 seasons – champions
1992-93 Halifax Town: 5 seasons – champions
PO = Play Off Winners
1996-97 Hereford United: 9 seasons – PO
1997-98 Doncaster Rovers: 5 seasons – PO
1998-99 Scarborough: 21 seasons (play in NPL Prem) – wound up in 2007 and placed in Conf North. Phoenix Club, Scarborough Ahletic FC formed 2007
1999-00 Chester City: 4 seasons – champions
2000-01 Barnet: 4 seasons – champions
2001-02 Halifax Town: 19 seasons (play in NL). Dissolved in 2008. Phoenix Club, FC Halifax Town formed 2008 and started life in NPL Div One.
2002-03 Exeter City: 5 seasons – PO
2002-03 Shrewsbury Town: 1 season – PO
2003-04 Carlisle United: 1 season – PO
2003-04 York City: 8 seasons – PO
2004–05 Kidderminster Harriers: 15 seasons (play in NLN)
2004-05 Cambridge United: 9 seasons – PO
2005–06 Oxford United: 4 seasons – PO
2005-06 Rushden & Diamonds: 10 seasons (play in Southern League Premier Central). Dissolved in 2011. Phoenix Club AFC Rushden & Diamonds formed 2011.
2006–07 Boston United: 14 seasons (play in NLN)
2006-07 Torquay United: 2 seasons – PO
2007–08 Mansfield Town: 5 seasons – champions
2007-08 Wrexham: 13 seasons (play in NL)
2008–09 Chester City: 11 seasons (play in NLN) – Folded & Expelled February 2010. Phoenix Club, Chester FC formed in 2010
2008-09 Luton Town: 5 seasons – champions
2009–10 Darlington: 11 seasons (play in NLN) – Administration (again) in 2011-12 and a new name, Darlington 1883 emerged and placed in the Northern League
2009-10 Grimsby Town: 6 seasons – PO
2010–11 Lincoln City: 6 seasons – champions
2010-11 Stockport County: 10 seasons (play in NL)
2011–12 Macclesfield Town: 6 seasons – champions
2011-12 Hereford United: 9 seasons (play in NLN) – liquidated in 2014. Phoenix Cub, Hereford FC formed in 2014
2012–13 Aldershot Town: 8 seasons (play in NL)
2012-13 Barnet: 2 seasons – champions
2013–14 Bristol Rovers: 1 season – PO
2013-14 Torquay United: 7 seasons (play in NL)
2014–15 Cheltenham Town: 1 season – champions
2014-15 Tranmere Rovers: 3 seasons – PO
2015–16 York City: 5 seasons (play in NLN)
2015-16 Dagenham & Redbridge: 5 seasons (play in NL)
2016–17 Hartlepool United: 4 seasons (play in NL)
2016-17 Leyton Orient: 2 seasons – champions
2017–18 Barnet: 3 seasons (play in NL)
2017-18 Chesterfield: 3 seasons (play in NL)
2018–19 Notts County: 2 seasons (play in NL)
2018-19 Yeovil Town: 2 seasons (play in NL)
2019–20 Macclesfield Town: 1 season (play in NWC Prem Div) – Wound Up & Ejected. Phoenix Club, Macclesfield FC formed in 2020.
2020–21 Southend United: season in progress
2020-21 Grimsby Town: season in progress
The current 2021-22 season hasn’t been included in these figures.
A micro glance at these statistics would suggest that we will most likely be in this league (National) for the next 5 to 10 seasons.
If we are liquidated – then a Phoenix club would most probably be placed in the NECL at step 10.
No new owners and no significant investment will probably likely see relegation to the NLN.
Money talks – and it’s going to need a significant amount to bounce back at the first or second attempt.
Oh well, plenty of new grounds to visit.
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May 9, 2022 at 3:19 pm #237046Probably more money in the National League than League Two?
May 9, 2022 at 5:20 pm #237073‘If we are liquidated – then a Phoenix club would most probably be placed in the NECL at step 10.’
So dust off your old footy boots – you might be needed!
May 9, 2022 at 6:39 pm #237081AnonymousInactiveOffline
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Topics: 100It looks as if it’ll be more than just a B&B stay over in the National League.
Full Board & late night supper seems to be the reservation?
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May 11, 2022 at 12:42 pm #237231‘If we are liquidated – then a Phoenix club would most probably be placed in the NECL at step 10.’
So dust off your old footy boots – you might be needed!
Do they play walking football in tier 10?
May 11, 2022 at 2:02 pm #237237In all serious though, I’ve seen some tier 10 Counties teams that would give our current squad a real test.
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