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I figured it out in the end, him using the derogatory word people used to call disabled people was the last straw.
I just want Michele to be left alone to do her job.
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I like what I’m not hearing from
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more than anything I heard from the last two owners, nothing about splashing the cash, nothing about developments around Glanford park .This club might just survive, no more lower league Peter Risdales5 users thanked author for this post.
Some posters on here really have got some nerve. Wind your necks in. You were quite happy to knock Matt, Bru in general and anyone else who questioned and criticised Hilton, with very good reason, for a very long time. A bit of humility wouldn’t go amiss. Without Bystander many of us wouldn’t have been alerted early to who that man was and his history. There was a good reason why none of his posts were deleted while a number of you whined about him being a mere trouble causer. The club is in safe hands. There won’t be a reason for any whistleblowing.
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I figured it out in the end, him using the derogatory word people used to call disabled people was the last straw.
I just want Michele to be left alone to do her job.
Aren’t you a clever lad. No shit sherlock. No one has said ‘I told you so’ but Johnny come lately remarks are taking the piss IMO
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On a personal note, I would like to pass my thanks to Interested Bystander for continuing to pass on information which certainly allowed me to build up an informed view of what was going on.
And also the people behind Ironbru and particularly the moderators as well everyone who posted screenshots of Facebook, Twitter etc, which I have no wish to join, but clearly a lot of this was played out there.
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I do hope everyone reads the rest about the brownberg when it’s revealed by The Athletic and doesn’t ignore that aswell. There are some serious lessons to be learned, particularly why conning shysters need to be stopped from owning football clubs. Hopefully some greater good can come out of this whole shitshow. Pity The Iron had to be the subject
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I suspect that it will only confirm what they already believe they know about the press
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Sounds like there is plenty more to come out. People are now choosing to ignore the damage he’s done which is their decision. However, He’s finally gone and that’s a win for everyone who cares about the club.
I echo the thanks to IB. You certainly have an axe to grind with Hilton and I hope you continue to shine a light on the misery he causes elsewhere.
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The haven’t been owners a day yet so give them a chance to sort it out, Hilton wasn’t given it rightly or wrongly, I know Simon and Roj pretty well to talk to and they are both Iron through and through, met Michelle once and I know she is a Iron as well, let us just let them sort it in their own way and stop jumping to conclusions, they will know the priorities, let us just call them the dream team
I don’t think anyone isn’t giving Michelle a chance. I suspect more will give her and those involved a chance because their credentials are far stronger than Hilton’s and I would be incredibly surprised if we hear of the same skeletons in the closet as with Hilton.
As for whether Hilton was given a chance, I would say that he didn’t leave because of this. He got found out, didn’t have the money really and tried to use that as an excuse. However, his excuse of not paying those he owed because of anxieties is so poor it doesn’t work as an excuse. That’s no justification not to pay people; feeling bad doesn’t stop you of obligated payments. If anything, I am thankful this man wasn’t able to embed himself in the club even further. In his short time he managed to run more than one ponzi scheme, divide the fanbase with his emotional manipulation, fail to resolve the debt issue to any degree and put us on the verge of losing our own ground. I dread to think how damaging it would be if he got his hands on the stadium.
I think most know it’s a tough situation, but most trust a local consortium to have our best interests at heart, which will steer them away from the shambolic communication and trust issues with Hilton. There will be more faith, as I cannot imagine Harness and co pursuing an ownership in the unprofessional manner as before. I don’t think we will have the self-pity, attacks on others, excuses and absolute nonsense which typified Hilton’s ownership. There’s finally optimism again.
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The haven’t been owners a day yet so give them a chance to sort it out, Hilton wasn’t given it rightly or wrongly, I know Simon and Roj pretty well to talk to and they are both Iron through and through, met Michelle once and I know she is a Iron as well, let us just let them sort it in their own way and stop jumping to conclusions, they will know the priorities, let us just call them the dream team
I don’t think anyone isn’t giving Michelle a chance. I suspect more will give her and those involved a chance because their credentials are far stronger than Hilton’s and I would be incredibly surprised if we hear of the same skeletons in the closet as with Hilton.
As for whether Hilton was given a chance, I would say that he didn’t leave because of this. He got found out, didn’t have the money really and tried to use that as an excuse. However, his excuse of not paying those he owed because of anxieties is so poor it doesn’t work as an excuse. That’s no justification not to pay people; feeling bad doesn’t stop you of obligated payments. If anything, I am thankful this man wasn’t able to embed himself in the club even further. In his short time he managed to run more than one ponzi scheme, divide the fanbase with his emotional manipulation, fail to resolve the debt issue to any degree and put us on the verge of losing our own ground. I dread to think how damaging it would be if he got his hands on the stadium.
I think most know it’s a tough situation, but most trust a local consortium to have our best interests at heart, which will steer them away from the shambolic communication and trust issues with Hilton. There will be more faith, as I cannot imagine Harness and co pursuing an ownership in the unprofessional manner as before. I don’t think we will have the self-pity, attacks on others, excuses and absolute nonsense which typified Hilton’s ownership. There’s finally optimism again.
Hilton seemed to throw his toys out of the pram fairly early in his tenure, when people were (as they had a right to be) suspicious of his motives and started asking questions (which they had a right to do). He realised he wasn’t the smartest person in the room and, imho, he himself must have known early on that it was just a matter of time before his reign went tits up. In carelessness, desperation and anger it got progressively nastier and more dishonest, and he was unable to keep hold of his runaway horse.
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Good post Sidy except the bit about losing the ground. We lost the ground 2 years ago. Hilton had a very poor plan to get it back but it wasn’t him that took it from the club.
There are enough facts out there that any sane person will be relieved and delighted he is no longer involved without the need to embellish the story.
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Fair. I realise that Swann holds the blame there. Though, if Harness and co secure a ground solution it will be something Hilton failed to do, and that’s what I am trying to refer to really. Swann cost us club ownership of the ground, but Hilton’s nature might have costed us with playing there.
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Fair. I realise that Swann holds the blame there. Though, if Harness and co secure a ground solution it will be something Hilton failed to do, and that’s what I am trying to refer to really. Swann cost us club ownership of the ground, but Hilton’s nature might have costed us with playing there.
You do have to consider the possibility that Swann played awkward with Hilton as he realised he had made a grave mistake, and wanted to keep the ground away from the club until the club sorted itself out…
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That consideration is giving Swann far too much credit for which he deserves none. Don’t forget he stole the ground because of his mismanagement (and his mismanagement only) and was quite happy to let us be wound up whilst keeping the stadium firmly in Coolsilks hands.
That consideration is giving Swann far too much credit for which he deserves none. Don’t forget he stole the ground because of his mismanagement (and his mismanagement only) and was quite happy to let us be wound up whilst keeping the stadium firmly in Coolsilks hands.
I understand the anger and the lack of credit due to him… but if you were absolutely correct he wouldn’t be negotiating now, would he?
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Sadly the CCJs on the club will still need clearing and tax, wages and pensions need to be settled
Simon Elliot gave an interview to Andy comfort on Humberside and said the board already had all that in hand. Elliot was asked if they had the required funds and gave his answer.
Only thing that’s rumbling on is the purchase of the ground, which is already further than it was as Swann is already in dialogue with Michelle.
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That consideration is giving Swann far too much credit for which he deserves none. Don’t forget he stole the ground because of his mismanagement (and his mismanagement only) and was quite happy to let us be wound up whilst keeping the stadium firmly in Coolsilks hands.
I understand the anger and the lack of credit due to him… but if you were absolutely correct he wouldn’t be negotiating now, would he?
He said he’d GIVE the ground back, that should be easy to negotiate.
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So trying to get money from the club for a ground he took away from the club is a positive! Wow
I didn’t say that, did I?
Getting the ground back is the positive. However it happens.
And it just so happens that to be in with a chance of getting it we have to deal with Peter Swann. The simple fact is that he owns Glanford Park. How he came to own it – and the morality of that ownership – has to be put to one side in the current situation. Bitterness, even if it is absolutely justified, isn’t going to help the club or supporters under current circumstances.
You would hope that the terms of any deal are favourable for us, rather than unfairly weighted towards him – but, whatever, I’m looking at it from a realist perspective. I’m not saying forgive him. I’m saying keep your powder dry and get the deal done.
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He said he’d GIVE the ground back, that should be easy to negotiate.
There’s about as much chance of that as there ever was of Hilton building a new stadium on the land in town.
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