Match of the Day…

[Just Iron]

Quote: ‘ Not a valid reason to scrap the TV licence.’

No ..agreed. But maybe it’s one more contribution to the argument that it’s time that viewers of TV channels other than the BBC shouldn’t have to pay a fee … to finance the BBC. Let there be a fee by all means … to watch the BBC. Then people can decide to pay ..or freely watch other channels which are financed by other means. The present mess certainly highlights the fact that the world has changed drastically since the days of BBC monopoly and the Licence Fee is becoming archaic.

[Northumbiron]

So how would it be funded?

Advertising? Yet another channel with mind-numbing breaks in the programmes!

Subscription? Much like Netflix, Prime or BritBox. How’s that any different to a license fee?

State funded via the taxpayer? Now that would open up a whole can of worms!

[Lord Kitchener]

I think match of the day has served its purpose and is no longer fit for it. Not just because of dick heads using it as a political platform. The amount of live streaming services for football now makes a highlight program unnecessary. The live version should be pay per view. Some of us don’t want to pay towards Lineker’s extortionate wages.

[Siderite]

“Not just because of dick heads using it as a political platform”

Linekar didn’t use the show as a political platform in my opinion, as he didn’t air them on the show. Then I would have an issue.

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[Lord Kitchener]

In a way he did. If he wasn’t a BBC ‘lovie,’ nobody would have heard what he had to say.

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Alfred

[Northumbiron]

There are several dickheads on the show, but none have used it as a political platform. LK you are lapping up the Tory nonsense.

So you won’t pay towards Lineker’s “extortionate” wages, but I guess you are willing to contribute towards Kevin de Bruyne’s and Mo Salah’s? Or perhaps Rupert Murdoch’s?

Am I sitting down to watch Newcastle v Wolves now? No chance! Will I watch the highlights later? Most likely.

If you think a highlights programme is unnecessary, think again!

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[Siderite]

I thought free speech was for everyone, including the famous.

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open hearth iron

[Lord Kitchener]

I saw the vid of him getting into that car and reiterating what he said. To say that our government, even though they are Tories, are like the Third Reich, is an insult to millions of victims from WW2.

[Iron-awe]

Lineker has around 9 million followers on Twitter, that’s what upsets Braverman and her ilk, the fact she is broadcasting to the nation most days with her opinion seems lost on her. They see Lineker as a threat because his opinion which is different to hers ( to which he is entitled on politics as is anybody in a free society ) is seen by many but so are her opinions. If the state funded the BBC would we get a weekly propaganda show dressed up as ” Policy Of The Day every Saturday night showing everything, whoever the Government of the day may be, in a positive light?

[Deereyme66]

Predictable right wingers distorting and manipulating the truth, even on here.

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[Siderite]

Lord Kitchener wrote:

I saw the vid of him getting into that car and reiterating what he said. To say that our government, even though they are Tories, are like the Third Reich, is an insult to millions of victims from WW2.

Free speech includes the right to make stupid comments.

[Lord Kitchener]

So what equates to freedom of speech?

As odious as they are, the govt actually banned a political party because of what they stood for. Don’t get me wrong, I agreed with that proscription. But if there is to be a line we can’t cross, then freedom of speech does not exist here.

[Siderite]

Of course there is a line. I don’t think Linekar’s crosses it because it was a vulgar comparison.

[64]

Lord Kitchener wrote:

I saw the vid of him getting into that car and reiterating what he said. To say that our government, even though they are Tories, are like the Third Reich, is an insult to millions of victims from WW2.

I like these right wingers dressing up their outrage at being called out as concern for millions who died using a false narrative ,while ignoring what he actually said was right it seems
<br />golf r 0 60<br />

[Iron-awe]

If you read what Lineker actually wrote then the versions being put out by Tories and right wingers is just a weaponised version of what they want people to actually believe. Don’t forget Bravermann has refered to migrants as ” the enemy “, she also refers to the opposition disagreeing with her as ” leftie lawyers “, how appropriate is her language considering she is a Government minister, it’s absolutely hilarious but she appears frightened of Lineker and his tweet and she clearly can’t get at him any other way but verbally attack him but bear in mind she also believes her proposed law may be illegal. Nobody wants to talk about the legitimacy of her proposals, people would rather talk about a football pundits private opinion on Twitter, a very clever distraction by an unpopular Minister touting an unpopular possibly illegal unworkable policy on migrants.

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SODIron

[Siderite]

I don’t like the Tories, but 64’s comparison to the Nazis is OTT. The Nazis were far more extreme in many of the examples given, and went far beyond with genocidal rhetoric.

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[Awaywego]

Viewing figures soared last night hope the BBC take note and maybe do away with the presenters altogether.

[Siderite]

I suspect a lot was about curiosity. It doesn’t say a lot about preference. Polls indicate most think the BBC were wrong to suspend Linekar.

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TwoWrights

[Awaywego]

Not amongst Tory voters S.

[Siderite]

The only people who count, obviously. The rest of us don’t matter in opinion.

[Deereyme66]

I’d hardly say another half million viewers given the situation constitutes soaring figures. Explaining that way does help to sell papers and provide click bait though. Did you watch it awaywego? Are you seriously saying that’s how you’d prefer a football highlights programme or is this another example of your strange humour?

[Alfred]

All those who watched Match of the day for Lineker and the pundits’ lengthy excruciating investigations of where the back 4s were please raise your hand.

[Awaywego]

It’s how the sun and the telegraph describe it as well as BBC news Deerey, 20% increase on last week, no I didn’t watch it,haven’t done so while there’s been the premier lge, always turned the sound down when Stuart Hall was on and yet loved him on “it’s a knockout”.

[Deereyme66]

I can see The Sun and Telegraph use the word ‘soar’ (what a surprise!). Other news outlets, including the BBC itself, stuck to the facts and reported ‘increase’ or ‘rise’. Then again, they don’t have an agenda with the BBC and anything that legitimately questions the government as the predominantly right wing press and media have.

[Just Iron]

NI Subscription would clearly be different to the Licence Fee. You could choose to pay it and watch BBC. If you chose not to subscribe then you could still watch ITV, Channel 4 etc etc Seems pretty obvious to me.

[Heath]

Completely ignoring the radio, world service and programmes that people value that no other TV company would make. Internet/media prices rising bu more than 10% so how many subscriptions would people need to replace the value lost from the BBC?

[Northumbiron]

Just Iron wrote:

NI Subscription would clearly be different to the Licence Fee. You could choose to pay it and watch BBC. If you chose not to subscribe then you could still watch ITV, Channel 4 etc etc Seems pretty obvious to me.

That’s the case now if you’ve a smart tv (which admittedly everyone doesn’t). My point being that if you don’t want to be bombarded with crass advertisements you’re going to have to pay.

Agree with Alfred re: the banality of the punditry. Which is why I mute Mr Shearer and the laughing policeman Micah Richards.

However I fully believe that without it the armchair fan who has never played football in his life would have nothing to chat about to his mates on Monday morning.

“Alright lads? I reckon West Ham are much better playing three at the back rather than 4-4-2!” 😂

[Deereyme66]

Lineker’s back. No apology given or needed. Looks like all those that dislike the programme so much, for whatever reason, will have to put up with it or stop watching, if they usually watch in the first place. Such a shame for the BBC naysayers and Lineker haters.

[Awaywego]

But he as agreed to stick to the guidelines now until a review is completed, these things are normally left to HR, I hope anyone who feels they can’t stick to the guidelines just do the right thing and refuse to sign the contract. Let’s hope Simon Elliott and Ian Sharp now feel they can come forward and tell us the ins and outs of their Swann saga, obviously only in a tweet.

[Deereyme66]

“Between now and the report Gary will abide by the editorial guidelines, that’s where we are.”

And he may well argue that he didn’t breach the guidelines in the first place. If it was the case he had, they’d be pushing him to apologise. They haven’t. Why you’ve bolted on Elliott and Sharp here is anyone’s guess. No logic.

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