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August 19, 2024 at 8:56 am #289648
Beestin had a good game, Whitehall is a player fans moan at but you would dread playing against you, but he scored and had an assist so what more do you want in warm conditions, we paced it first half and they tired in the second, if Marine had hit the target with their chances it could have been a different scoreline, I thought Marine were a decent team and gave us a good game, and the older looking central defender was very good for them, their fans really enjoyed themselves and wished us the best of luck and described us as a great club with fantastic fans, and that is not said very often.
August 19, 2024 at 9:06 am #289649“Clunan is a nothing captain, with little to no presence or authority. Is he good at doing the phone calls and collecting the subs for the snooker tournaments and golf days?”
He’s quite good at talking to refs but not in the same league as Steven Dawson!
August 19, 2024 at 9:20 am #289650Well it was a tough watch, particularly the first half, but a wins a win. Robert’s not suited to the central role and is wasted in that position. He is technically our best player but if the wages are as reported I’d be inclined to encourage him to move on.
We looked like Tamworth on Saturday. Hard to break down, direct, scoring from a long throw.
I don’t like 3-5-2 but can’t argue with the results whilst we are getting them.August 19, 2024 at 9:56 am #289654Scunny fans certainly do seem to have problems with certain goal scorers personally I just don’t get it. Whitehall, King Kev, Toney, Morris, Hayesy of late did the biz yet still questioned, even worse though is many didn’t or don’t want them to do well or even score for that matter. Don’t get me wrong im sure most still want the team to win but without their particular disliked player doing well.
I must admit I was almost the same over Southgate at one point I was of a mind for England not to win the Euros so he wouldn’t have it on his CV, then i gave my head a wobble and come to my senses.August 19, 2024 at 10:12 am #289656Well that’s a start you coming to your senses, just keep working on all your other issues and I’m sure you’ll eventually get there.
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August 19, 2024 at 10:22 am #289657August 19, 2024 at 10:22 am #289658Aye. I have been critical of Whitehall in this thread, but can acknowledge he has some very good qualities, as he did show towards the end of the game. It’s not about wanting him out of the squad or anything, it’s just an opinion based on part of the game where I felt he was weak. Ultimately, he did come good in the end and scored a goal and made an assist. Can’t grumble with that aspect at all. Beestin did score twice v Brackley and looked solid on Saturday. Carlton has promise too, so as games progress we will have to drop whoever is playing worst or contributing the least.
As for the performance, it was hard fought throughout and we know games are tough at this level. Many are solid and will look at shoring up their defence and scoring one against us on the counter. It may not have been outright dominance on Saturday, but I didn’t expect it to be. Ultimately, we came through and won, and did v Brackley. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
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August 19, 2024 at 11:10 am #289660Butler doesn’t see the introduction of subs as weakening the team (I suppose he has to say that really) But 5 subs gives a greater opportunity to take off somebody not influencing the game and replacing them with somebody that will. Fishburn, Brogan and Rowley have shown the ability to do that and it’s likely we can add Carlton to that list very soon. Good options off the bench for a change. (No offence to Evans & Kelly BTW but they have a different role to play)
August 19, 2024 at 11:35 am #289664Butler doesn’t see the introduction of subs as weakening the team (I suppose he has to say that really) But 5 subs gives a greater opportunity to take off somebody not influencing the game and replacing them with somebody that will. Fishburn, Brogan and Rowley have shown the ability to do that and it’s likely we can add Carlton to that list very soon. Good options off the bench for a change. (No offence to Evans & Kelly BTW but they have a different role to play)
I don’t understand why Evans isn’t in the side from the off. Perhaps he’s been carrying a knock or working his way back to full fitness or something?
August 19, 2024 at 12:15 pm #289666I don’t understand why Evans isn’t in the side from the off.
Think last season he would have been first on the team sheet. He may well have not been fully match fit for the first game but as we have now won 2 with clean sheets, and 2 of the back 3 selected having provided 2 goals and one assist + the added threat of his throw, Butler will find it difficult to accommodate him in the short term. (It’s a good problem to have though).
August 19, 2024 at 12:17 pm #289667Drop Clunan??
August 19, 2024 at 12:34 pm #289669Having five good subs is a massive bonus for us and I don’t care if the opposition put on five subs too because five outfielders remain on the pitch for both teams all game and our five will be fitter than their five most games. Gaps appearing last twenty minutes particularly down Marines right flank, we exploited that with Kelly towards the end, a comfortable win for me and a lot of that down to superior fitness IMO.
August 19, 2024 at 1:28 pm #289672Drop Clunan??
I counted one forward pass on Saturday. Everything else went back to the keeper, sideways or out of play.
August 19, 2024 at 1:45 pm #289673Marine obviously felt differently about Clunan given their midfield obviously were working a rota to foul him.
August 19, 2024 at 2:04 pm #289676I think Clunan is starting to look like the Clunan who was playing brilliantly for the 1st half of last season. I personally think he keeps everything ticking in CM and is very neat and tidy. In don’t understand why people would want him dropped. In fact I find it mystifying.
August 19, 2024 at 2:45 pm #289677Thought he had a decent game v Brackley. Didn’t see Saturday’s
August 19, 2024 at 3:48 pm #289686Drop Clunan??
I counted one forward pass on Saturday. Everything else went back to the keeper, sideways or out of play.
certainly only one of note and sadly for him that went to someone a mile offside
August 19, 2024 at 4:24 pm #289693im not getting all the hype about the actual performance it wasnt that great,first half except the goal was dire improvement second half way better more dominant
On the whole it was competent rather than inspiring. The second half was a big improvement over the first, once the substitutions had been made.
Whitehall’s goal was a belter but he seemed to have an attitude problem up to that point.
Clunan is a nothing captain, with little to no presence or authority. Is he good at doing the phone calls and collecting the subs for the snooker tournaments and golf days?
Why did Whitehall have an attitude?
If you think Clunan is a nothing captain then your judgement is shocking!
McArdle & Boyce from recent memory have been awful captains, how can the quietest player be captain?
August 19, 2024 at 4:30 pm #289696There’s some Olympic quality moaning. Just watched the highlights on YouTube, 3 great goals. Boyce’s header is way better than it looked from the dre.
Up The Iron !August 19, 2024 at 4:32 pm #289698Why did Whitehall have an attitude?
How would I know why? That’s a question for Whitehall.
If you think Clunan is a nothing captain then your judgement is shocking!
Don’t be so ridiculous. He might do a lot of talking and a lot of pointing, but I’ve never seen any of the other players on the pitch acknowledge or respond. He lacks presence and authority.
August 20, 2024 at 1:32 pm #289754Why did Whitehall have an attitude?
How would I know why? That’s a question for Whitehall.
No it’s a question to you..
Why did he supposedly have one? What’s your reasonings?
If you think Clunan is a nothing captain then your judgement is shocking!
Don’t be so ridiculous. He might do a lot of talking and a lot of pointing, but I’ve never seen any of the other players on the pitch acknowledge or respond. He lacks presence and authority.
Plenty of authority for me, funny how the manager seems to think so too.
August 20, 2024 at 1:57 pm #289757No it’s a question to you..
Why did he supposedly have one? What’s your reasonings?
I can’t answer why he seemed to have an attitude. You’d have to ask him why he had one.
But complaining about every decision that went against and not doing much work – worthwhile or otherwise – in the time up to his first goal… those things suggest he was mardy.
Edited to add: I should say, for clarity, I really like Whitehall. He can just be an arse sometimes, and it looked that way for a while on Saturday.
August 20, 2024 at 2:04 pm #289758Plenty of authority for me, funny how the manager seems to think so too.
No, it’s not funny.
August 20, 2024 at 4:55 pm #289763Was our disallowed goal offside? I couldn’t tell but I’ve heard mixed opinions on it.
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