Manchester Airport – Police Actions

[Deereyme66]

Saw the clip of the police officer kicking an assailant and stamping on his head whilst he was on the floor after being tasered. Also heard Andy Burnham criticising 30p Lee’s irresponsible comments but saying we need to be have all the context and facts before making judgments. He’s right about Anderson of course but under pretty much no circumstances is that an acceptable police action. He should have been further apprehended and arrested. Simple as that. Looks like he was out of control and has anger management issues. Context or not, it’s unacceptable. I can only assume he wasn’t aware he was being filmed.

[64]

Sounds like a dirt bag got a kicking,stupid by the police as it makes him a victim

[Iron-awe]

Yes despite what occured before the incident and we don’t know for sure what did, the assailant was face down on the floor and certainly did not warrant having his head kicked in by a police officer. Correctly suspended whilst a full investigation is carried out, Lee Anderson is just a dick but we knew that anyway before this incident was viewed.

[Deereyme66]

Ridiculous how people are making out the ‘woke left’ are taking issue with this as though police officers literally kicking another human being in the face and stamping on his head is perfectly acceptable and even ‘commendable’. Absolute tossers.

[Iron-awe]

As has been stated many times before, the term woke has been hijacked by the right wing of politics and is used liberally by them to describe anything or anybody who doesn’t fit their particular political agenda. I would guess the majority don’t even know what the term woke actually means, it’s easily researched for those struggling to grasp it’s actual meaning.

[64]

It gives disgusting fuckwits like this a chance to spew bile.
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1816372303912898647?t=cb4LmXDdYlXJ_Cpc0irwsg&s=09

[billpuntonsghost]

Woke is a general term for neo Marxism. We have touched on it over the years,the Frankfurt school and Critical theory that has penetrated our Universities since the 1930’s. Now full blown wokeism that is making people’s lives less and less free .The ideology is being fought by many with a Christian worldview( even if they aren’t Christian’s.) The misery wokeism is inflicting on ordinary working class people will hopefully be a wake up call for them to fight back against this oppressive ideology.

[Iron Age]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

Woke is a general term for neo Marxism. We have touched on it over the years,the Frankfurt school and Critical theory that has penetrated our Universities since the 1930’s. Now full blown wokeism that is making people’s lives less and less free .The ideology is being fought by many with a Christian worldview( even if they aren’t Christian’s.) The misery wokeism is inflicting on ordinary working class people will hopefully be a wake up call for them to fight back against this oppressive ideology.

No it isn’t.
It’s what I did this morning and hopefully many more mornings.
Any other use, especially in the pejorative, is Orwellian newspeak. (Or is it Kafkaesque?)

[Iron-awe]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

Woke is a general term for neo Marxism. We have touched on it over the years,the Frankfurt school and Critical theory that has penetrated our Universities since the 1930’s. Now full blown wokeism that is making people’s lives less and less free .The ideology is being fought by many with a Christian worldview( even if they aren’t Christian’s.) The misery wokeism is inflicting on ordinary working class people will hopefully be a wake up call for them to fight back against this oppressive ideology.

You know bill your life would be a lot more rounded and you as a person better informed if you observed the world with both your eyes open and not just your right one.

[Northumbiron]

Sitting target
Sitting, praying
God is saying
Nothing
Nothing

What am I trying to do, what am I trying to say?
I’m not trying to tell you anything
You didn’t know when you woke up today.

[TheJuryeffsOut]

Easy to pontificate from the safety of our armchair

[TwoWrights]

TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

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Easy to pontificate from the safety of our armchair

From the safety of my armchair it appears multiple charges against several of them should follow, including the police officer.

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[Deereyme66]

Fact of the matter is it could easily have been a white group involved. Race is irrelevant. Looks like they were scumbags who need the book throwing at them but you simply can’t condone policing like that. The bloke was already tasered and under control. The police officer lost it. No pontificating TJO, just valid observations.

[TheJuryeffsOut]

Like I said, easy.
Have a sip of tea, maybe a beer, have a good think about the rights and wrongs.
Now, take a few punches, be grabbed around your neck, get pulled to the ground add a little bit of fear for your life, a dash of shouting and screaming and then make the same decision in half a second.
As Tyson said “everyone’s got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

[Deereyme66]

Okay, done that. Nothing I have posted changes. I understand how that officer reacted but it still doesn’t make it acceptable. Do you think it does?

[Deereyme66]

I should add that I may well have acted like that under the circumstances. Probably why I should never have been a copper.

[Deereyme66]

Also, with all due respect, this is quite patronising

‘Have a sip of tea, maybe a beer, have a good think about the rights and wrongs.’

[TheJuryeffsOut]

I’m sorry if you feel that way, I worded it like that because that is what I was doing. I’ve had 2 days to think about it and then been able, after a very nice relaxing Saturday, to have the luxury of watching the longer video several times sat in TJO Towers, actually drinking tea, and considering what happened.
I think the officer probably will be charged and a court will have to decide.
Whether I think it is acceptable or not is irrelevant, I get to sit in my armchair and comment on the news, sipping tea and dunking biscuits, whilst the police officer gets to have 7 bells knocked out of him and then whilst seeing stars and possibly concussed, get to make a split second judgement on the use of reasonable force.

[64]

once someone is on the floor it’s no longer defending yourself or reasonable to attack them.You’d be arrested at that point too

[TheJuryeffsOut]

I don’t think it’s that simple 64. We can watch it and go reasonable, reasonable, fair enough, reasonable – kick, stamp, – unreasonable. But we haven’t been punched in the head ourselves, or gone through any of what that officer is experiencing at the time. Is he even capable at that point of reason ? Look what happened with Butterfield when a ball got booted in his face from close range last season. All of a sudden he’s squaring up to people and shouting at them, subsequently he has to have 2 weeks off due to effects of concussion.

[Deereyme66]

I watched multiple times last night before posting my thoughts to try and understand what happened in the build up to the earlier footage. At no point does it look like the officer in question may have justifiably had ‘a little bit of fear for’ his ‘life,’. My opinion regarding Andy Burnham’s immediate comments haven’t changed either. He should have said policing like that is unacceptable regardless of the context. Now we need to find out what happened before it to see who else is culpable here and charge them if they need charging.

[Deereyme66]

It’s all irrelevant anyway. The authorities will deal with it now. And the Tommy Robinsons and their racist followers will have a field day

[TheJuryeffsOut]

If the officer just walked into the situation at that point and booted a guy laid on the ground then you’d be right. But he didn’t.
In the circumstances, some of which we’ve now seen, I think Burnham’s comments were exactly what needed to be said. Whilst you can come on a forum and go off half cocked after seeing part of a video with no context whatsoever, Burnham realised there’s more to it than that.
Not sure what field day Tommy Robinson will have he’s not particularly keen on the police himself from what I’ve seen.

[Iron-awe]

It his lack of professionalism that is being called into question, despite what went on before and that’s why they wear the uniform in the first place, to be professional and to uphold the law in a professional manner befitting that uniform. A thug is a thug and the actions of that officer were the actions of a thug not a professional police officer and his actions as a professional officer were not acceptable, whatever the provocation.

[Deereyme66]

‘Whilst you can come on a forum and go off half cocked after seeing part of a video with no context whatsoever, Burnham realised there’s more to it than that.’

Trying not to get personal about this but I will say ‘half cocked’ is another example of patronising. You don’t seem to be understanding the point so I’ll leave it there. You’ve seen as much me. Don’t suppose you’d consider your option ‘half cocked’ would you?

‘Not sure what field day Tommy Robinson will have he’s not particularly keen on the police himself from what I’ve seen.’

A field day, which he is now having to much vociferous support (including prolific elements of our own fan base), to use it as an opportunity to promote his racist and particularly anti-Muslim hatred.

[Deereyme66]

A big part of the problem with this situation is trust in policing methods, particularly given their recent track record of the use of excessive and disproportionate force and a record of brutality going back as long as I can remember (I.e. the 70s onwards). Anyway, once he’s fired, a glittering business opportunity in an unsavoury security start up firm awaits.

[billpuntonsghost]

In America the vicious attack on police officers seen at Manchester airport would have resulted in a justified response with full public support.In the past an attack on a police officer would have led to a long sentence. Not anymore. See the problem?

[Iron-awe]

Difference is bill our officers use tasers and although the American police have tasers too they invariably go for the hand gun, although in fairness if the Manchester airport incident had happened in the USA the people causing the disturbance could well have been armed . Almost 1200 citizens shot dead by American police last year alone, the problem to see is the ridiculous USA gun policy. I don’t want our country to have a gun culture like the USA, truly scary place to live.

[Deereyme66]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

In America the vicious attack on police officers seen at Manchester airport would have resulted in a justified response with full public support.In the past an attack on a police officer would have led to a long sentence. Not anymore. See the problem?

Yes, the problem with your post is that you are just surmising and second guessing what may or not have happened if it had been the US. I’m a patriot me. I love the UK how it is. You don’t appear to. Those sort of views in the US might get you deported in Trump’s US. Then where would you go? Rwanda?

[Heath]

“full public support”.

Are you speaking on behalf of every US citizen now?

It’s the same type of guff statement as “the great British public” and “the people’s priorities” used by the Tories and UKIP.

They don’t speak for me, and judging by the election result, the Tories were a long way off the mark with the people’s priorities.

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