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December 27, 2024 at 8:47 am #296144
If you have a question, ask Magic Robot.
Magic Robot – For Our Younger Patrons
Magic Robot, who will score our goals once Roberts has departed?
December 27, 2024 at 9:31 am #296146If you have a question, ask Magic Robot.
Magic Robot – For Our Younger Patrons
Magic Robot, who will score our goals once Roberts has departed?
What again, this came up a couple of years back, can’t you think of something different FFS.
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December 27, 2024 at 10:06 am #296147Twenty goals a season easy
December 27, 2024 at 11:21 am #296150Would be another Barrie Thomas moment if they sell Roberts.
Fans don’t just buy season tickets for the fun of it. a certain level of expectation is required and to sell your top goalscorer ain’t in there when I purchased mine, with Michelle saying we’ve got to get promotion.
December 27, 2024 at 11:35 am #296151So you would deny a player the opportunity to play at a higher level? A level that his undoubted talent deserves.
Benefits to the club being a reduction in weekly salary and a welcome cash boost. I don’t want to lose him either but it’s win/win for player and club IMO and, in Williams, we’ve already got his replacement. Permanent contract offer ready for the expected eventuality I’d guess.1 user thanked author for this post.
December 27, 2024 at 12:00 pm #296152Bloody hell its only 4 Months till the season ends then he can move on.
Bugger the cash boost for the club theyve skimmed everything they can this season off fans. Good football puts bums on seats and a good run from now on in will make more than the pitance we could get for him.
December 27, 2024 at 1:17 pm #296153I don’t live locally ..so what have I missed? Is he definitely going?
December 27, 2024 at 1:30 pm #296154I wonder what value the BoD have put on him?
I believe the record transfer fee for NLN is Josh Heaton – Darlington to St Mirren £85k, July 1st 2018
December 27, 2024 at 1:44 pm #296155Bloody hell its only 4 Months till the season ends then he can move on.
Bugger the cash boost for the club theyve skimmed everything they can this season off fans. Good football puts bums on seats and a good run from now on in will make more than the pitance we could get for him.
In most cases I’d agree with that logic, however Robert’s wages are ridiculous for this level and even the one above. Not anyone’s fault who still remains at the club but if a club comes in with a reasonable offer then you’d have to let him go.
December 27, 2024 at 2:10 pm #296156We’re lacking goals and creativity, Roberts gives us both. Butterfield’s stats last season were remarkable (even when he slowed down)and Roberts this are good. I can’t see Williams being fit long enough to get any consistency and if we get £80k for him (just a guess) then another year in this league will cost double that when fans lose patience.
What I don’t understand is where are the loanees? We were told the squad would be supplemented with loan players, have we had any? Would be a bad move to let him go unless it’s silly money being offered.1 user thanked author for this post.
December 27, 2024 at 3:15 pm #296157Would we still get a fee if he was sold end of the season? Not au fait with the contract. Wouldn’t like to see him go in Jan. Unless he’s replaced well enough, and I don’t see that happening.
December 27, 2024 at 4:30 pm #296161I’m sure if he goes the usual “not standing in the players way” routine will be trotted out alongside the more recent ” helping the club become more self sufficient within an affordable wage structure””. Good players have come and gone before and we have survived ok, having no club to support is something we haven’t encountered yet and hopefully never will.
December 27, 2024 at 5:00 pm #296162All I’m saying is it doesn’t bode well for the future , if fans see the club is prepared let go its better players during the season when we’re supposed to be going for promotion many will not return the next.
The way it’s going we’re going to be playing a club next season that went out of business so no worries for the future we’ve got a ground forever now, the business fails another will start.
December 27, 2024 at 5:37 pm #296163The club will do what the club will do, if we sell Roberts and don’t get promoted the fans will have a choice to make next season. After what went on when people rallied round the club some 14 months ago I’d be surprised if said fans would let it slip away so easily due to lack of promotion in one season but if that’s their choice, so be it.
December 27, 2024 at 6:51 pm #296164Simple speculation? The talk of many seems to see it as a certainty that he will go.
Do we know this as a definite fact?December 27, 2024 at 7:06 pm #296167The club will do what the club will do, if we sell Roberts and don’t get promoted the fans will have a choice to make next season.
Given the fashion for AI this year, I put the conundrum to ChatGPT to see its analysis.
Here is a transcript of the ‘conversation’… complete BS or Boardroom Seat?
Gurn said: If Scunthorpe United sell Callum Roberts, who will score the goals?
ChatGPT said: If Scunthorpe United were to sell Roberts, the big question would be who steps up to take on that responsibility. Football clubs often rely on a number of strategies to cope with the loss of a key player, and it could go a few ways:
ChatGPT said: Ah, Roberts has certainly been an important player for Scunthorpe United. If they were to lose him, the team would likely face a significant challenge in replacing his contribution.
Given Roberts’ qualities—his creativity, pace, and goal-scoring ability—Scunthorpe would need to find someone who can fill that creative void and also be clinical in front of goal. In terms of replacements, they might look for someone with similar attributes, like a winger or an attacking midfielder with a knack for scoring, or possibly another forward who can link up play effectively.
Some potential ways they could cope without Roberts include:
1. Shifting to a more team-oriented attacking strategy: If they can’t replace Roberts directly, they might focus on creating opportunities for multiple players to score. This could involve encouraging central midfielders or wide players to chip in more.
2. Promoting from within: If they have any promising younger attackers or wingers in the academy or reserves, this could be a good time to give them a chance. A young player with potential might just step up and make an impact.
3. Tactical adjustments: The manager could also tweak the formation to create more chances for the players who remain. A more attacking setup or more emphasis on set pieces could help keep the goals flowing.
4. Loan or transfer market move: Scunthorpe may look to the loan market or the lower leagues to bring in a player with a good goal-scoring record. Sometimes clubs find hidden gems in lower divisions, especially when they have a solid scouting system.
The loss of Roberts would undoubtedly be a blow, but with the right tactical changes and reinforcements, Scunthorpe could still maintain their goal-scoring threat. Hopefully, they’d also look at how Roberts’ work rate and link-up play contributed to the team’s overall dynamics, not just his individual goals.
Do you think they have anyone in the squad now who could step up and take over that creative responsibility if Roberts does leave?Gurn said: Maybe Danny Whitehall
ChatGPT said: Ah, Danny Whitehall – he could definitely be a player to step up if Callum Roberts were to leave. Whitehall has the potential to be a key figure in attack. He’s typically more of a central striker, but he’s got a good work ethic, physical presence, and the ability to score goals, which could make him a good fit for leading the line if the team needs to find a new focal point in attack.While he may not have the same direct creativity and flair as Roberts, Whitehall can still be a reliable goal-scorer, particularly if he’s given more freedom and service from the midfield. If he can form a strong partnership with the other attackers or midfielders, his physicality and movement could make him a real asset.
If Scunthorpe were to shift their tactics to make the most of Whitehall’s strengths, they might focus on:
1. More direct play: Using Whitehall’s hold-up play and aerial ability to create chances from crosses or through balls. If they can get wingers or full-backs like those in the squad to deliver quality balls into the box, Whitehall could be the one to finish them off.
2. Pressing from the front: If they lose Roberts’ creativity, it might be important for Whitehall to lead the press and force turnovers in dangerous areas. This could allow Scunthorpe to create goals from high up the pitch rather than relying on intricate build-up play.
3. Supporting cast: Players like midfielders and wingers could step up to contribute more goals. If Whitehall plays as the focal point, he may also assist in bringing others into play and creating space for teammates to get into goal-scoring positions.
The key for Whitehall would be for the team to adapt and play to his strengths, and for him to find some consistency in front of goal. If he’s the one to take on a more prominent role, Scunthorpe might be able to maintain a solid attacking threat even without Roberts.
It sounds like you’re hopeful Whitehall could fill the gap if Roberts moves on! Do you think he’s ready for that increased responsibility, or would you be concerned about the pressure being on him?Er… dunno.. Bru?
December 27, 2024 at 8:15 pm #296171And maybe just maybe Butler might just walk away with the board selling his top goalscorer.lol
Ya know just like many said that Keith Hill had intergrity and would stand up to any Swanny antics.
December 27, 2024 at 8:45 pm #296172ChatGPT for next manager?
December 28, 2024 at 8:42 am #296182Has there been a bid?
what does Roberts want?
Neither question discussed.
If there is a bid and Roberts want to try his hand at a higher level it’s not for us to stop him.
Also it would be reckless as a club to refuse a good bid when we still owe money,our more patient creditors might lose their patience.December 28, 2024 at 10:41 am #296187Your not still suggesting the club still as a debt are you lol, the debt was less than £100,000 in August ffs, nigh on a 4000 average crowd to have paid things down and we’ve even bought a player if we’re not making profit by now there’s something seriously wrong.
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December 28, 2024 at 10:56 am #296189If i were a betting man my money is on Roberts leaving sooner rather than later and most certainly no longer than this season .. Jan 2025 and the clock is ticking.
I dont think he has any loyalty or love for the club as such and after the fan bust up at Guiseley i predict he will go possibly to a NL or L2 club.
Dont know re Fitz contract but loose him also and we are really screwed.December 28, 2024 at 11:02 am #296190I assume the club will try and keep hold of him till season end. If an offer came in Jan and he wanted to go, the club shouldn’t try and prevent it IMO. Hope he stays and we can command a fee in the summer though.
December 28, 2024 at 11:38 am #296193I think he’ll be OOC in the summer and be able to leave for nothing. It’s difficult to see any club below L1 being able to match his ‘estimated inflated’ (for NLN) wages. Can we/will we seek to match any offer from L2 or NL to try and keep him? A better chance if we’re in NL you’d think.
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December 28, 2024 at 11:56 am #296195Your not still suggesting the club still as a debt are you lol, the debt was less than £100,000 in August ffs, nigh on a 4000 average crowd to have paid things down and we’ve even bought a player if we’re not making profit by now there’s something seriously wrong.
How much revenue does 4k crowds bring when set against our costs? I am suggesting that £100k is a debt .Something you actually even stated ,it’s a lot of money . You cry every time you have to pay enough money for anything to run the club yet want them to keep players. Our club is a selling club and we then use that cash to rejuvenate the squad ,if that system breaks down we end up in another Hilton situation.
December 28, 2024 at 1:04 pm #296196You’re forgetting that the board let awaywego examine the monthly finance report. How else could he know that the debt is paid off?
December 28, 2024 at 1:07 pm #296197we actually need 4234 a game to break even, anything above that means we can play 4-4-2 and win every game . Michelle said so in her last interview
December 28, 2024 at 1:12 pm #296198And im suggesting there’ll be no debt if we paid down the £1.5 million to £2.5 million In less than a year with the continuing ticket revenue.
4000 average crowd revenue.
£12 average ticket price £1.1 million
£13 gives £1.2
So more a less another 100 grand for every pound average.Our club used to be a selling club last one was Nuttall I believe and that being a full 2 years ago.
And yes Ill cry When the club increase my season ticket price by 14% during a cost of living crisis, as for the rest of the money grabbing of other things I refuse to participate in them, and more than likely they’ll lose my season ticket money next season I’ll probably just go back to going to away games and then they’ll get sod all.December 28, 2024 at 1:18 pm #296199was it revenue that paid it off? How much was put in by the board to pay off debts?
The club had to increase the season ticket price do to some club under pricing them so much the club nearly went to the wall. You’re lucky it was only 14%“4000 average crowd revenue.
£12 average ticket price £1.1 million
£13 gives £1.2”
facts are fiction?
they do actually also have to pay wages and other bills. Plucking figures out of thin air and presenting them as facts isn’t very scientificDecember 28, 2024 at 1:29 pm #296202Obviously not facts just averages.
And your not meaning Hilton didn’t leave such a big debt after all are you.Michelle never mentioned the board putting in anything for the debt.
We put in £70,000 ish and she did mention a few more individual donations.And don’t forget Sharp made it quite clear any money he pays in are of the loan variety. Ps which is nothing different from which most board members or owners do from every club up and down the country.
Ps. just seen Tamworth v Spurs prices suppose you’d support the same if our club did the same lol.
December 28, 2024 at 1:34 pm #296205averages need facts too.
He made it clear he thought he leant a past owner money. I’ve not seen any other loans mentioned.
Michelle mentioned directors putting money in when she diluted her shareholding didn’t she ? As someone who hangs on her every breath how did you miss that ? -
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