Lee Turnbull pre-match interview

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    SharpShooter24Sharp_Shooter24
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    I’ve seen him criticised on Twitter for this but I have to say there’s was absolutely nothing wrong with it!!
    We all want him to be open and honest don’t we???
    All he said was there’s always an end of month review (usually on zoom) where the managers performance is one of the agenda points… which is totally understandable!!
    It’s Keith Hills problem that he’s done an appalling job and if his performance is discussed and it’s a negative discussion then ultimately that’s a result of HIS poor performance!!
    Also, the stupid comments about Ice cream vans and face painting need to stop!!
    Lee is doing all he can to enhance the match day experience and I think he’s done brilliantly!!
    Lee is the one shining light right Now, I totally believe he wants the best for the club… if his hands are tied that’s not his fault it’s someone else’s!!!

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    But…
    If you take a job knowing you cannot do it for whatever reason, is that honest?
    To yourself?
    To those expecting the job done properly?

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    Did he take the job knowing he couldn’t do it properly? You’re questioning the man’s integrity here. I’d be more interested to hear what he has to say himself about it his tenure when it’s over. If he’s not gagged. Has he ever implied he’s involved in on field matters?

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    Lee is Front of House.

    He isn’t cooking the food and he doesn’t own the restaurant!

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Bet he’s aware of the current bad taste being left in the mouth though.

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    I don’t think he knew how bad things were.

    He does now and deteriorating by the day if that is possible.

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    Plus he perhaps relished the challenge and loves the club?

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    I think he took the job HOPING he could make a difference. He is doing his best he cares for the club like us and if he wasn’t around I dread to think what Swanny would be doing. All Swann has done is put Lee in the firing line nothing else has changed behind the scenes and until he is gone (Swann) this club will never move foreword. I just hope and pray that a takeover is soon for all of us.

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    But…
    If you take a job knowing you cannot do it for whatever reason, is that honest?
    To yourself?
    To those expecting the job done properly?

    You’re right, no one should every try anything and it is terrible that someone thinks he might possibly be able to make a silk purse out of this sow’s ear.

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    Well unless he can still see a deal going through its time for him to walk for his own integrity, he’s sold us the dream but still the nightmare goes on, how can he look himself in the mirror and say he’s delivered, all we wanted was a team to compete albeit in the NL nothing to much to ask, he asked for us to stick by them which the fans have they’ve bought the season tickets and the shirts in better numbers than last season bigger budget than more than half our lge, we told him talk was cheap on Donny station that day its actions we needed to see and that meant on the pitch as well. No one can say I haven’t been behind him from the start in most of my posts and have defended him, now’s the time for him to stand up or down as the case maybe.

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    He’s the ‘Chief Operations Officer’. He looks after off field activities and by and large is doing a good job against the odds. He doesn’t manage on field activities, Hill does and he reports to Swann. Swann is responsible for the sale, not Lee. Anyway, not that he’s going to take a blind bit of notice what you think. And let me get this right, you want Lee to leave his post, is that right? What positive outcome would you expect for the club if he did that?

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    Board meeting this morning according to Neil on Twitter.

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    You got my hopes up then so i looked at his twitter account and it says he is seeking to speak to the board today. Doesn’t say anything about a meeting going to take place.

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    Don’t stab the man in the back and leave nothing .Sure he is trying his best for the club, if he did not give a match preview people would be asking why .Damned if you do and damned if you don’t

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    This ^^^

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    Chief O O or not, Lee sought us out at Donny not the other way round, no mention of off field activities other than lower commercial revenues why would there be? It was all about being more successful on the pitch this season. And of course Swann had convinced him he was selling up or he wouldn’t have taken the job he said, I believed him, been to 4 of the last 5 home games which I don’t do normally, no more he sold me a lemon, so yes I want Lee to leave his post, no positive outcome for the club if he did but that wouldn’t be the intention in fact the opposite. He might not take a blind bit of notice of what I think (he should do though he was doing the selling) But I will make it quite clear what I do think next time we meet.

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    Some fair points awaywego, though I do think you’re blaming the wrong guy here. As you say Swann told him he was selling up. The fact it hasn’t happened yet isn’t Lee’s fault. There wasn’t a deadline for sale as far as I’m aware.

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    Or, look at it the other way; why should he resign and sacrifice his income because his boss has let him down? How do we know he’s not actively seeking a way out without leaving himself high and dry? He doesn’t deserve to be out of a job and income. When he talked about helping to improve on field fortunes he might not have realised how little influence he would have. He might also have been over enthusiastic about everyone being in in together (not Swann obvs), pulling in the same direction?

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    Of course I am not privy to exactly what is going on behind the scenes. Let’s face it the club has directors that don’t know exactly what is going on.

    It seems obvious that if there really was a plan to do well in the National League this season then 2 things had to happen.

    1. We would somehow have to increase crowds after 4 years of decline from the circa 2,000 they had dropped to.

    2. We had to recruit almost a full team of players and coach and motivate them to compete in this league.

    It would appear that number 1 was the responsibility of Lee Turnbull supported by the club staff and Neil Wright. Very difficult task but 3 games in – job done.

    It would appear Keith Hill and his coaching staff have been given full autonomy and the available financial support to achieve number 2. Six games in they have massively under achieved.

    The other thing the club was reportedly trying to achieve was new ownership. This was by his own admission the sole responsibility and focus of the current owner. He is to the surprise of no-one also underachieving.

    I simply cannot understand why some people wish to blame Turnbull and Wright for anything that is going wrong at the moment. Why should they walk away from the club they demonstrably care about and what would be achieved by their doing so?

    Conventional wisdom say a coaching team get 10 games at the start of a season to prove their worth. For many managers 5 straight abject defeats often short circuits that grace period.

    I have given up wasting emotional energy on wondering what the owner is up to. Nine years of bullshit does that to me. Only my opinion but for the first time I am calling for the coaching staff to go. I have absolutely no confidence they can do anything about the situation on the pitch.

    If they get the full 10 games then if they are still in the relegation places then they must go.

    Anything else I would take as proof of the managed liquidation theory.

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    Totally agree with all that apart from the last sentence. What makes you think he could succcessfully manage liquidation on this scale, given he doesn’t appear able to manage a piss up in a brewery?

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    I have said all along “unless he can see a deal going through” Deerey I hope this is still the case, I have said deals can take a very long time, but only he and a few others will know if the last one is still a go’er, I believe you know my sentiments behind my posts Deerey, he’s a great guy to talk to and hope what he has said to comes to Fruition for everyone, Happy to wait on the sale but not on the football side so I have voted with my feet, and only want him to walk to show he’s one of us cos he comes across that he is.

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    Liquidation would clear chairman of running costs etc,but he would have to pay for the demolition of the ground,and then what.Land is a prized commodity but in the present economic climate,who wants to build empty retail units,housing maybe but would the council approve this as they are still in a hole trying to build a lakes complex across the road.possibly NHS to build something I don’t know.All would need planning permission .The chairman’s best bet was to keep us in the football league so he appointed hill ,as a proven experienced manager,unfortunately he failed badly to turn it around. I’m sure the chairman will have been disappointed with hill,and seeing his assets devalued being a non league team and gone along with hills rebuilding project.
    He has brought in some experienced players but in his frantic search for a winning formula he is losing the basics. Stick to a system the players can understand and the results will come
    I can’t see the chairman sacking hill as it would mean him coming back into the spotlight,also having to pay him off and appoint who? Although temptation must be there.
    I personally can’t forgive hill in the way we surrendered our league status without a fight, but we don’t know all the factors behind the scenes.Hopefully we can find that bit of luck that can kick start our season let’s hope it’s this Saturday. Up the iron

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    Was going to say to MKI, an alternative and perhaps more plausible theory to the liquidation one is the cost involved in sacking Hill, and who to next?

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    I guess if he wanted to liquidate it he could do it tomorrow,without this conspiracy theory,I guess his business and accounting team have pulled the plug on his spending seeing sufc as a non profitable business

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    Hill gone. Well bugger me. All that typing 😀😀😀

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    Why would he liquidate if there are buyers out there, the liquidators would only look to buyers to get the best deal they can for Swann, which probably wouldn’t be as much as if a straight forward purchase was on the cards.

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    No hoax. Hill has gone

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Welcome to the next mug whoever they are, already doomed to failure by the Prawns actions.

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    Does that put an end to the managed liquidation theory?

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    No, smoke and mirrors, appease the natives with a sacking but carry on the plan as before. Next guy will have no budget and no chance.

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