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August 25, 2020 at 9:53 pm #193914
Last week, I got the feeling most people were pretty optimistic about the coming season, with the arrival of Cox & Lillis, plus several new signings.
Are people still feeling optimistic after tonight’s friendly?
August 25, 2020 at 10:01 pm #193916Mine died after Mr Swann’s podcast when he said Watson was our number 1.
We need a proper keeper and we need a leader at CM. We get that there’s still a chance although the injuries starting to pile up already will show whether the depth is lacking or not.
August 25, 2020 at 11:46 pm #193924Said this on several threads, but if you have an inexperienced (or dodgy) keeper Then you need a commanding figure at CB.
If you have an inexperienced defence then you need a Murphy/Gilks style keeper.
Currently we have neither.
Also the midfield has a bit of a lucky-bag feel to it with no one jumping out as a sure starter.
I’m not saying we haven’t signed some decent young talent but it still doesn’t look like a balanced squad. With KvV out for a while and Clarke and McGahey not having kicked a competitive ball there’s not a great deal of experience in the backs or CMF.
Still two and a half weeks to get it right but this has more the feel of an U23 team rather than a senior squad as was born out this evening.
August 26, 2020 at 12:12 am #193927Really worried for us. The little experience we did have within our squad are ALL currently out with injuries.
Van Veen nailed on striker is crocked for the next 2-3 months.
Mcgahey and Onariase out, leaves us with Cordner and Bedeau as starters with young Charlie Barks as back up.
Clarke is perma crocked. By the way, going by what I’ve seen on twitter from what people were suggesting is that either McGahey or Clarke are out injured for a considerable time too.
We had a player on trial who I think was a RB who came on second half so that would suggest Clarke is the player who’s injury is a lot more serious than first thought.
We can’t exactly play Bedeau at RB now with 2 CB’S now out. That would leave us with Barks and Cordner with no other CB on the bench.
No doubt We need to sign a CB and RB pretty sharpish or we’ll be in deep shit.
Van Veens obviously a massive loss but least we have options upfront to call upon, nowhere near as good as him but least they’re there to use.
Another complete calamity by Watson again, he’s just nowhere near good enough…with a young back line we need an experienced, reliable GK.
If Swann doesn’t budge and sign one…I genuinely fear for us.
With Watson it’s getting to the point where it’s mistake after mistake, he’s just not learning.
August 26, 2020 at 4:32 am #193928The display by Watson was considerably less than ept.
Vincent and Gilliead will surely be CM with Eisa and Colclough on the flanks. No others looked capable of breaking into the side. Was it me or was Hallam rather ordinary? Spence marginally better.
The CBs apparently pick themselves but Bedeau showed some positives and Codnor looks okay. Sadly, it takes time to build a partnership.
O Malley caught the eye for me.
Jarvis puzzled me as I’d been led to believe that he was a ‘heavy’. Clearly not so.This injury situation could hardly be worse – our best CB and our best goalscorer!
August 26, 2020 at 6:10 am #193929Man with money and no football brain plays football manager. Problem is the fall guys are club legends. It was a risk with a full squad, a threadbare squad with no rocks and a dodgy keeper is a worry.
Swann has apparently learnt lessons but it feels like we’re back on the same ride.
August 26, 2020 at 8:27 am #193932Going into a football league season with an under 23 squad…bold move.
August 26, 2020 at 10:28 am #193942I completely agree with Ironawe.Don`t listen to what Swann says,watch what he does.Once again his opinion
of his own abilities is vastly overrated.August 26, 2020 at 11:04 am #193947Come on everybody the majority of you have got what you wanted Cox and Lillie now let’s give em a chance,If anyone becomes the perceived weak link under them as ex footballers I hope they will see that and change personnel, don’t forget the squad are all new to them and need to have a Look first,
August 26, 2020 at 12:20 pm #193954Spot on Awaywego, lots of other clubs will be approaching the new season in similar fashion to us but at least we have a popular management duo who should improve the playing staff overtime, as for injuries, Clarke excluded, I’m afraid that’s how it goes sometimes.
August 26, 2020 at 12:43 pm #193957Iron awe, still doesn’t change the fact we desperately need a CB and RB. Swann should never come to the decision we don’t need a GK either, that should be the managers choice, not the chairman’s.
Les, I think he’ll start Spence and Vincent in CM personally, seen as they’re CM’s by trade. I don’t like Gillead in cm, we tried that last season a few times playing him centrally and he’s too lightweight…he’s better out wide.
Gillead’s a good player but he’s hardly a tackler/battler and with the back line we’re going to have, we need all the protection we can possibly field to protect them.
Eisa and Gillead will be out wide for me with Colclough and Dales as back up.
As it stands though we’ll have a complete back line of kids with 3 of the 4 not even playing that many games in league 2 before. Rowe and Cordner haven’t played any. Bedeau needs games and Watson is fragile to say the least.
Not feeling too confident at the minute.
August 26, 2020 at 12:45 pm #193958It was more of a worry when we kept doing well in the friendlies!!
Best to get a sense of realism. The test will be whether the club wants to and can attract players to improve what we have before the season starts.
August 26, 2020 at 1:03 pm #193964Very early days yet but last night didn’t really muster up any optimism. The new signings were either rubbish or ordinary at best.
Watson and the defence in front of him worry me the most, especially with the injuries mounting up as per usual!
August 26, 2020 at 5:53 pm #193986If anyone becomes the perceived weak link under them as ex footballers I hope they will see that and change personnel
They may well be unable to change the “weak link” personnel!
It was more of a worry when we kept doing well in the friendlies!!
The friendlies we have done well in (ie narrowly won) have been against U23 squads. In the two games against senior squads we have conceded seven goals!
Agree with BLT, defence looking shaky.
August 26, 2020 at 7:21 pm #193990But we are virtually a u23 team ourselves NI.
August 26, 2020 at 9:11 pm #193995If Cox can’t change things, I hope he will do the right thing and walk.
August 26, 2020 at 10:58 pm #194003Indeed Mick.
And as Johnny Iron says – a bold move. Or rash gamble perhaps?
October 22, 2020 at 8:21 pm #196397Well done most posters about right, nice to look back.
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