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    fans6464
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    Keith is just showing what a nasty right winger he is and how broken our two party system is
    If you can’t vote to feed children in the labour party .
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c978m6z3egno

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    .how left are you,Wolfie? As left as the ones that caused ( and still are) so much misery and chaos in the 20th Century,that led to the deaths of over 100 million people.But hey,let’s give it another try!

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    I would like to see the back of this law. However, break the whip and you face consequences, as it always has been in our parliamentary democracy. The rebels should have been smarter and pushed for it afterwards, and doing this after the manifesto just looks silly.

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    It was stated it would be looked at when the figures had been fully assessed and the autumn statement could possibly have a provision in place for a change but it was also stated that if the money wasn’t there now it wouldn’t happen straightaway. Not sure what point the seven were making because they knew what the vote would be, perhaps if they listened they wouldn’t get their backsides kicked.

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    I think they were making a show to try and put Starmer in a hard position, and find some sway over party positions through it. Only Starmer has no interest in stunts and wants to get on with the job in hand, so considered it to be better to let them go than be seen as weak by being swayed through rebellion. Like you say, Starmer’s Labour has stressed that there will be hard decisions due to financial constraints, but this benefit constraint better go in the end.

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    Of course you do,Starmer is just playing politics,if you cannot have an internal discourse in our two party system you have a dictator.Hell need them sooner than he thinks.

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    I think breaking the whip is more than just internal discourse. To allow that to go unpunished, no matter how moral the cause, would signal weak leadership and the ability for any MP to force whatever path on the party through rebelling. Internal dialogue is allowed, but rebels deciding the party should move in their way is not ‘internal dialogue’. However, it’s easier to pretend any thoughts to the contrary are an ulterior motive when the SCG groups think they have a monopoly on the right path forward, since they’re the most moral people in the universe, and to go against them is immorality by default.

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    “how left are you,Wolfie?”

    How Christian are you? Time for a cheap Wolfie comment, but seemingly no concern about children living in poverty.

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    The Tooting Popular Front isn’t what it used to be.

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    How Christian are you? I am a born again Christian.
    Time for a cheap Wolfie comment. The old timers on here understand the ideology of this word.
    Seemingly no concern about children living in poverty. Throughout history the Christian has been shown to be most concerned with children living in poverty,I am no exception.

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    Do you sniff your own farts too?

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    I bet he prays for the starving millions every day!

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    “The old timers on here understand the ideology of this word”.

    Thanks, but I perfectly understand what you are referring to old boy.

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    Do you sniff your own farts too?

    Farage went all the way to the USA to smell Trumps farts, should have been in Parliament representing his new constituency but he didn’t let that minor detail about responsibility bother him.

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    “Throughout history the Christian has been shown to be most concerned with children living in poverty,I am no exception”.

    Compassion, concern about child poverty.

    Strange, but in all the posts you’ve made and videos you’ve posted, the politicians and self-appointed spokespersons you support, not seen any evidence of it.

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    Christians do as long as taxes aren’t high,Christ’s dad just slaughtered kid for vengeance,in fairness we all need a hobby

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