Kier Starme rat CBI

[64]

Chucking the disaffected Tories some bait and gaining Farage as a fan.
Nice!
Has he got an election pledge he kept?

[Siderite]

Interesting you trust Farage about this. Whatever you think about Starmer on this, his immigration policy is not a UKIP one.

Also, Nick Griffin endorsed Corbyn.

[64]

I am genuinely torn between voting Labour or greens,even not voting at all.

[64]

Whi says I trust Farage?

[Siderite]

You seem to trust his judgement on Starmer following his manifesto. Yet Starmer has said nothing about cutting immigration numbers, like UKIP would. The manifesto Farage is talking about says he would enact a five year school ban on migrants. Starmer is not for this.

We can disagree on Starmer’s immigration policy, and I am not overly keen on it, without saying it’s like UKIPs. That’s a line by Farage to try and undermine the government and escalate Labour infighting.

[Iron-awe]

I think we can all agree Farage is a pot of shit, surely.

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[64]

Doesn’t need saying

[Heath]

“I am genuinely torn between voting Labour or greens,even not voting at all”.

You might as well vote for the Tories then. How difficult is it to understand that policy announcements mean sod all when you are NOT the Government?

[Heath]

Not forgetting that you have history of casting your vote alongside Farage, Rees Mogg, Sunak, Johnson, Bone, Duncan Smith, Tommy Robinson and probably Griffin!

[Gurnelista]

Starmer sees the next election as his cup final. He’ll do whatever it takes to beat the Tories and at whatever price.

[64]

To who?

[Heath]

To the Tories hopefully!!

[Bucksiron]

I’m sure he will, Gurny, but the problem for Labour is that the party’s split just as much as the Tories when it comes to Brexit and the centre versus the left. It’s just been kept under wraps, but sooner or later it will all come out into the open. Starmer knows he has to support Brexit and avoid the party lurching back to the left to win the election. He also knows that many in the traditional Labour heartland voted for Brexit.

He’s also facing huge problems with the unions. While everyone sympathises with workers, me included, the strikes have been designed to create maximum disruption at a time when people are struggling on all fronts. On top of that many people took a huge financial hit during the pandemic while many of those going on strike received full pay. A chap who does work for us used to be a paramedic and he’s furious with the NHS nurses and ambulance drivers for going on strike, especially given he’s now looking after his wife who has terminal cancer.

The question is how Starmer balances all of this. At the moment it’s easy because the Tories are in such poor shape, but as the election gets nearer he’s going to have to make his policies clear and many of them simply won’t please everyone.

[Siderite]

Personally, I think the main division is less over Brexit now within Labour and more about Corbyn backers and non-Corbyn backers. The troublesome ones are those who are more Corbyn inclined, along with the odd ambitious sort like Andy Burnham, who will position himself any old how to get some backing.

Getting the Labour Party to unite has always been difficult.

[TwoWrights]

Bucksiron wrote:

I’m sure he will, Gurny, but the problem for Labour is that the party’s split just as much as the Tories when it comes to Brexit and the centre versus the left. It’s just been kept under wraps, but sooner or later it will all come out into the open. Starmer knows he has to support Brexit and avoid the party lurching back to the left to win the election. He also knows that many in the traditional Labour heartland voted for Brexit.

He’s also facing huge problems with the unions. While everyone sympathises with workers, me included, the strikes have been designed to create maximum disruption at a time when people are struggling on all fronts. On top of that many people took a huge financial hit during the pandemic while many of those going on strike received full pay. A chap who does work for us used to be a paramedic and he’s furious with the NHS nurses and ambulance drivers for going on strike, especially given he’s now looking after his wife who has terminal cancer.

The question is how Starmer balances all of this. At the moment it’s easy because the Tories are in such poor shape, but as the election gets nearer he’s going to have to make his policies clear and many of them simply won’t please everyone.

How very novel, strikers pick a time when it’ll have maximum effect, next time perhapsthey should do it when no one will notice. As for your paramedic friend tell him they’ve never had it so easy, most shifts now involve at most two jobs if they’re ‘lucky’, the rest of their time is sat waiting in a queue to admit patients to a&e. My paramedic friend is sick to the back teeth with it, as in his words ‘that’s not what I signed up for’. Fear not though Rishi has a plan, much like all those of the past decade.

[Heath]

It’s amazing that you appear to have one friend for each profession and that each friend agrees with you every time in contrast to the vast proportion in each profession who don’t.

Uncanny!

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[Iron-awe]

Heath wrote:

It’s amazing that you appear to have one friend for each profession and that each friend agrees with you every time in contrast to the vast proportion in each profession who don’t.

Uncanny!

Most PR is an expansion of what the author wants the public to believe rather then what the facts actually are but hey it looks impressive when written down for others to ponder.

[Heath]

Are you implying that our PR friend likes to sizzle his sausage?

[Northumbiron]

One day Bucks will submit a post that doesn’t have any whataboutery in it.

I doubt, however, it will ever be in my lifetime.

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