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If Hill had nanaged to make any improvements to performance when he csne in, or signed anyone who could improve the team in the trabsfer window, we could have survived (although it was a difficult ask).
We had no new manager bounce and we have not seen any improvement in results. He has achieved nothing.
He has done nothing since he came.
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The new manager bounce was managing a 0-0 draw if i recall correctly .. IMO Hill has been a massive disappointment and i would not be surprised to see him leave at any time before next seasons National League adventure starts.
Goals win games and this current ensemble mish mash cobbled together from the left overs from a very poor Cox group and a bottom of the barrel January intake have sealed our fate… being constantly out played possession wise and shots on goal both home and away isnt fun to watch and im not sure we will see Scunny win another game in the league ,,,or maybe even score another goal.
Back to Hill .. hes been here before ..just another job , stepping stone he doesnt have any love for the club and seems unfazed at its demise mirroring Swanns vibe.
A 72 minute mass walk out is a great idea
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A few people have mentioned his signings in January, I can’t go along with criticising Hill for that, although for the most part they have not been good, they were probably the best available to him thanks to Swann.
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Hill stated many weeks ago that his focus is the rebuild for next season.
I fully applaud this logical thinking.
Results, at the moment, are of zero consequence. If we lose every game by six – it just doesn’t matter. Let him experiment with what he’s got – especially where the youngsters are concerned.
I refuse to criticise until I see that this incredibly capable manager is unable to make this rebuild work. (Even then … can we pretend that restraints from on high have not stymied him?)
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Let’s fave it, our season ended when we offloaded Ryan Loft. 2 goals in a 3.1 win at Oldham and we looked like a club that could possibly escape the drop. We sold the only player who looked like he had goals in him and failed to bring in an equal standard forward. Despite Swann saying we won’t sell unless we have someone better.to bring in.
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A few people have mentioned his signings in January, I can’t go along with criticising Hill for that, although for the most part they have not been good, they were probably the best available to him thanks to Swann.
I understand where you’re coming from but why get rid of Loft & Hippolyte and not replace them with improvements? We didn’t have to get rid of those two players. Yes, I know we had to sell players to bring others in but if the net effect is making the squad weaker, why bother?
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Hill stated many weeks ago that his focus is the rebuild for next season.
I fully applaud this logical thinking.
Results, at the moment, are of zero consequence. If we lose every game by six – it just doesn’t matter. Let him experiment with what he’s got – especially where the youngsters are concerned.
I refuse to criticise until I see that this incredibly capable manager is unable to make this rebuild work. (Even then … can we pretend that restraints from on high have not stymied him?)
I really detest folks getting on the back of people doing their best in impossible circumstances.I completely disagree with this. Relegation can happen, it nearly did to us in 2004. Had we gone down that season, I firmly believe we’d have been back within a couple of years, we had a decent squad and good crowds.
What is different this time is that to the fans it appears that since January everyone has just given up on trying to stay up. There have been some appalling performances and results. We hardly ever score goals and we’ve only won 4 games all season. It’s incredibly corrosive and there will be consequences to it, driving away fans, many of whom won’t return perhaps ever. At a time when fans are looking for some rays of light and reasons for hope, the club is offering them nothing. The only thing we’re seeing more of at GP is goons with handcuffs.
What building for next season are we seeing anyway? Playing youngsters who may leave anyway? Getting rid of first-team players who would have been useful next season?
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The players sold in the window were sold to bring money into the club plain and simple. Hill would have known this on arrival and he did say on radio at the time it was in the best financial interests of the club. Look Hill won’t be happy about about how certain aspects have panned out since his arrival and I’m sure he did not what Loft or Hippo to leave but it’s the direction financially the chairman has been steering the club since his budget cuts began three seasons ago so he has to get on with the situation. Hill has said he is planning for next season and rebuilding the side and whilst all fans are unhappy with where we are heading, the financial situation under this chairman meant we were going out the league long before Hill arrived. He’s an experienced manager compared to the last guy and we need to give him time over the close season to try and rebuild a squad to be competitive next season and time next season to get on with the job. Yes we are all disgruntled but calling for an experienced manager to go without giving him time with a reduced budget next season to do his best is not where we need to go right now. We are down guy’s and that’s all there is to it, Peter Swann has seen to that not Keith Hill IMO.
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The more matches Hill loses the more the focus turns sightly away from Swann – its ideal for him. Hill was really constrained by the EFl loan, I doubt the players he got were his 1,2,3rd choice – they were just what’s left. However…..
You can all see the scenario, Hill builds the team, fails and we’re near the foot of the table when Swann gets rid – and the new manager has to work with the same players. if, and its a huge ‘if’ Hill is allowed to buy his own players then its crucial he gets it right because on stats alone he is the worst manager we’ve ever had but very little is on him – I just wish he would change the crap he comes out with on interview
Come on Hill as had it so easy, nobody really expected him to keep us up, we hoped but that was about it, so even a small to medium improvement would have sufficed but to get worse is behind comprehension.
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I think this season has been so damaging, a completely fresh start is required this summer. New players, new manager, ideally a new chairman. Well, we can dream!
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I’m with Les and IA on this one. Hill has to be given a proper chance. His record over hundreds of games … rather than this last few months … has to earn him a decent crack of the whip. He inherited a mess and couldn’t solve the conundrum. I suspect that, as much as we wanted any money going for Loft and Hippo, they were both straining at the leash to take up decent offers at Rovers and Stockport. Even the reported exchanges between Hill and some in the crowd could be seen more generously. Perhaps he has some passion … no bad thing …and perhaps he feels protective of young prospects being asked to step up in a tough situation. Finally … maybe he isn’t a firefighter/ Houdini character … maybe his real skills are in bringing stability and then establishing a base to push up from. Time will tell … so I hope we give him some and he sticks at it.
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Hill’s more than disappointed…he’s done worse than Cox which is an almighty achievement!
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Thinking about it a bit more, I think the real disappointment with Hill is the way he’s not given my any hope for the future.
I didn’t expect him to keep us up but I thought we were getting a positive presence and someone who could at least give us a bit of the Adkins effect, galvanising supporters. Instead, we are told to revise our expectations and “embrace” our current situation. Not particularly inspiring!
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We’ve only had 1 miracle worker as a manager in my near 60 years and even he had to suffer 1 relegation albeit from the Championship.
I agree though Ferrite I wasn’t expecting Hill to keep us up but a glimmer of hope didn’t seem too much to ask.
Obviously it was. The other thing that now worries me is the ringing endorsement of Hill from the chairman.
With his track record we should be very afraid.
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Ashman did a great job in 70’s on meagre resources – difference being he was given time.
Laws ultimately produced the goods for us us as well, on limited funds – again the difference being he was given time.
There’s a theme……
Swanny nearly got there with Alexander, but a brain fart later and we are where we are.
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When all that’s left at the bottom of the biscuit barrel is crumbs, it doesn’t matter how many times you dip your hand in, you’re only going to come out with crumbs!
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If you think we will get back in one season think again guys.
A pal of mine decided he had enough of the crap being produced by this bunch of players he thought he would head down the road to watch a couple of the cods matches and he told me it is going to be a almighty Challenge. We should have to start building for the next couple of seasons then perhaps make a challenge for promotion. There is only 1 team that gets promoted and the other fight it out through the playoffs. That’s why we should keep Kieth hill to give him a chance to build a team. UTI.
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