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December 29, 2021 at 9:06 am #220120
Goalkeeper- Watson has been player of the season so far no need reinforcement. Bilson’s loan expiring will free up a space for other areas to strengthened.
Right back- with Millen being so poor defensively and looking now out of favour, and Rowe preferred as CDM, a right back is a must.
Centre Back- Not been impressed with the 3 centre backs this year and all are prone to injury. Not a priority, but if other areas of the squad are strengthened sufficiently, then a Loan deal may needed for cover.
Left Back- no issues with O’Malley and Thompson as cover.
Wings- I know Hill seems to prefer his narrow diamond, but it would be good to a winger brought into the club to give us the flexibility in formation. With Bunn comfortable on the Left, a right mid would bring much needed balance.
Centre mids- the squad is bloated with too many players in this position already. Wood needs sending back to Hull and to be honest I’d see if we can get Perry off the books too. Hackney has impressed in the past 5/6 games so would be happy to see that loan extended.
Striker- main area of concerns the moment; despite Loft’s impressive second half at Oldham his has been woeful for this year and appears to have eyes elsewhere. If Scrimshaw ends up going back we will need 2 strikers a minimum.
December 29, 2021 at 9:55 am #220124If we are still under the EFL embargo then we are limited in squad size. To make room for newcomers we would have to move some out and loanees look the best option as it’s hard to see much demand for players under contract. If Wood, Scrimshaw and Billson were on a season long loan can we terminate that in January? I’d be happy to keep Scrimshaw and Billson and extend Hackney but if we can only shift Wood it seriously limits incomings and they’ll have to come from the bargain bin anyway.
As for a RB Cliff, Millen got a 2 year deal and with Rowe, Pugh and now Green as options (not necessarily good options) I think a RB will be way down Hill’s list.
However if we get the embargo lifted…………………….!!(cue alcy)December 29, 2021 at 10:39 am #220128A rather forlorn hope i know but i hope Simon Elliott can conjure up enough support to provide us with new owners.
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December 29, 2021 at 10:49 am #220129If things carry on as they are there is no way Mr Swann will pay off the loan as we have had no income in December at all and who knows how long this will keep happening, the loans returning all depends on the clubs for the season long loans players I hope we can get the outcome on them as below.
Hackney: is a must extend for me, but Middlesbrough might have other plans which would be a blow.
Wood: is obviously not needed or even in Mr Hill plans, Hull City will not be happy and you would think will look to send him somewhere else.
Billson: I would look to try and keep as we only have youth team back up with no experience at all, the league probably won’t sanction an emergency loans in the current circumstances when all Registered players are now to be considered for match day squads to get games played.
Scrimshaw: I would keep even if Loft goes and someone else comes in, he works hard and gives us a fresh legs in games if needed but think he will return to Bournemouth as he appears to be out of favour.
Of the contracted players
Donwald-Turan: appears to have no future at the club! But after seeing what Mr Hill as done with Hippolyte maybe there is a chance but can’t see it.
Perry: will be back up to the regular midfield but needs to get stronger on the ball IMO
O’Neill : is another that appears to have no future at the club and will probably be sent on loan or just not play.
This my thoughts but this is football so I will probably be miles off
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December 29, 2021 at 5:43 pm #220147Can’t agree with CBRP over getting rid of Perry. He is certainly nowhere near the finished product but a guy who can pass a bit like Tony Curry yet needs to toughen up and have a bit better overview of games is well worth persevering with.
Besides, he only has a dozen first team games under his belt. He is guaranteed to improve with experience and building up muscle tone.December 29, 2021 at 5:49 pm #220148Please no cheap turkeys.
December 29, 2021 at 5:57 pm #220150Can’t agree with CBRP over getting rid of Perry. He is certainly nowhere near the finished product but a guy who can pass a bit like Tony Curry yet needs to toughen up and have a bit better overview of games is well worth persevering with.
Besides, he only has a dozen first team games under his belt. He is guaranteed to improve with experience and building up muscle tone.Our centre mids are currently:
Perry
Hallam
Hippo
Pugh
Beestin
Wood
Hackney
Rowe
KenyonIdeally, Wood would be sent back and Hallam would be released. However, no-one is taking Hallam so at least with Perry someone might take a punt on him with a free transfer or a loan.
December 29, 2021 at 6:01 pm #220152Just found this on t’internet which answers a question of mine above and clarifies things a bit (for me anyway)
“Clubs are permitted to ‘staff up’ so they have 23 players of professional standing, which is termed as players to have made at least one appearance for any club in any first-team competition.
If they have less than 23 players they are allowed, within a transfer window, to sign free agents on a maximum of one-year deals or bring in players on loan for up to half a season.”This contradicts the apparent ‘season long loans’ reported for some players and suggests that they can be sent back. If they are, and my counting is correct, that leaves us with a squad of 20 or 21 if KDT counts. Doesn’t leave much scope without moving some on, does it explain why Wilson hasn’t had a game yet?
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December 29, 2021 at 6:33 pm #220154It had crossed my mind ‘tash. But if that was the reason why has Gallimore been given game time?
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December 29, 2021 at 6:45 pm #220158Shop window for a loan? No idea, just guessing like everybody else.
(Except those that know of course, they’ll be along soon to put us mushrooms right no doubt.)December 29, 2021 at 7:32 pm #220161Wilson has played in more than one first team game this season.
And if what Tash has said above is true, how did we hand out two year deals to multiple players in the summer (Millen and O’Neill spring to mind)?
December 29, 2021 at 8:47 pm #220162Don’t shoot the messenger BLT, just posting what the rules are supposed to be according to the EFL. It seems we broke two of them with no problem so I’m still confused. Hope the club and the EFL know what’s going on. Of course if the loan was repaid ……………..!!
December 29, 2021 at 9:09 pm #220163Alternative opinion: we’re just finally finding out stride, working out our best team and getting more out of previously maligned players. Do we really want to throw all of that up in the air by signing a bunch of new players?
December 29, 2021 at 10:07 pm #220164We one or two Ferrite.
December 29, 2021 at 10:57 pm #220165Don’t shoot the messenger BLT, just posting what the rules are supposed to be according to the EFL. It seems we broke two of them with no problem so I’m still confused. Hope the club and the EFL know what’s going on. Of course if the loan was repaid ……………..!!
No shots being fired here Tash…I was confused in the summer and I’m just as confused now. I’ve read the same on the EFL website and if we are indeed under those embargo rules then surely we’ve breached it multiple times already??
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December 30, 2021 at 3:04 am #220167Send Wood back. Hallam is fit so maybe a non league club will take him on loan. I’d personally keep Hackney but with his loan coming to an end, not so sure.
Bilson is here till the end of the season and I wouldn’t cut it short as apart from Watson, we have no good back up.
1 CB and 1 RB on loan as were still a bit lacking at the back and Davis is held together with duct tape. Rowe looks better in DCM than he did at RB and CB.
Perry has too much ability to let go. Perry is as weak as urine but if he strengthens like KVV did in the gym, bulks out and get’s Hill type match fit…you won’t find a better passer in the whole league I wouldn’t think.
Providing we can loan out Hallam and send Wood back, I’d loan a more attacking/creative CM player.
Loan O’Neil, Turan, Jessop to non league and get 2 strikers in to go with Bunn, Scrimshaw and Loft. I think we’ll be alright then.
Jarvis I don’t personally rate but he’ll be needed if Bunn picks up another injury. I’d maybe keep him around in the background.
December 30, 2021 at 9:22 am #220173Personally, I think computerised “Football Manager” type games have a lot to answer for.
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December 30, 2021 at 11:19 am #220176“how did we hand out two year deals to multiple players in the summer (Millen and O’Neill spring to mind)?”
That’s a very good question and should be filed in the Turan box!!
December 30, 2021 at 11:23 am #220177Throw Hallam and Green in that box if there’s room.
December 31, 2021 at 12:46 am #220200People are slagging off Millen but I think he’s improved under Hill. O’neil is terrible as is Turan.
Shame about Hallam as he has real ability but is just never fit for any amount of time. If Hill can somehow perform a miracle and get him match fit, he’ll add a lot more creativity.
Cox’s lax training regime may have been a cause as to why Hallam could never stay fit.
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January 1, 2022 at 5:06 pm #220290Think the Oldham result has skewed opinion. Still woefully short of quality and need 3/4 players minimum to have a hope of staying up.
January 1, 2022 at 5:14 pm #220292Or there’s too much optimism.
Swann must be laughing up his sleeve. -
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