It’s going to take more.

[Apollo11]

One big lesson from ‘the Harness era’ is that it’s clearly going to take more, from everybody, for the Club to survive and prosper. That means more than just your match ticket, more than just your replica shirt etc. Many give a great deal already (by way of their volunteering, say), but many others don’t contribute anything meaningful.

[ironfromafar]

We … Bru getting torn a new arse on one thread on the SFFBP totally unjustified IMO.

Afew ideas popping up on SM re ways to find much needed investment, hopefully that fifth investor will surface soon .. indeed ive bought lotto tickets today and everything is crossed even my ears.

Agree with the OP, even with an army of Stu Maw clones basic fundraising simply isnt gonna be enough and hopefully the club and fans can come up with a solution… i just wish Stu would take his tongue out the BovD arses and less voyeuristic gushing please… all whilst flogging his footy cards (which im not knocking btw)

[Apollo11]

Agree with the OP, even with an army of Stu Maw clones basic fundraising simply isnt gonna be enough and hopefully the club and fans can come up with a solution…

It’s going to require something like a monthly / annual / five year / ten year / lifelong membership scheme and subscription model. It needs to be properly set-up, properly committed to. I personally would sign up to something to put more money in, in this way. I’m not sure I’d expect much more in return than just knowing I was making a difference, after the last few turbulent years and the recent increased awareness of how fragile things are. Other members will want something more for their ‘subs’ and so that is an area where the Club and organised fan groups could engage over ideas.

I listened to the FC100000 guy’s BBC Humberside interview again and, in the cold light of day, to be completely fair to him he made some good points about football clubs in general. However, there is no clear proof of concept for his particular ‘new improved version’ business model. I thought as much as he showed an understanding of football clubs as businesses he showed a clear lack of understanding of football fans.

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[TheJuryeffsOut]

Apollo that is spot on.
The fc100000 guy did show an absolute lack of understanding regarding football fans. Actual football fans, like the core at Scunthorpe United, who will turn out again despite whatever disappointment occurs. Yes we will moan and we’ll complain but in the end we will keep supporting .
Are the 100,000 subscribers (assuming they could be found) going to keep paying if we finish 17th one year, are they going to cancel if some player misses a penalty in a playoff match which ends the season ?
One thing this whole debacle has shown is that Scunthorpe United have the number of actual supporters who could make a difference if it’s steered in the right direction.

[Apollo11]

Apollo11 wrote:

One big lesson from ‘the Harness era’ is that it’s clearly going to take more, from everybody, for the Club to survive and prosper. That means more than just your match ticket, more than just your replica shirt etc. Many give a great deal already (by way of their volunteering, say), but many others don’t contribute anything meaningful.

I have to add, after everything we’ve been through it’s disheartening that there are still some people (including on here) who consider themselves as supporters but actually their relationship with the Club is strictly transactional and business like, all the time: “Why should I contribute, what am I getting for my money?”

[TheJuryeffsOut]

I think Swann and Hilton haven’t helped with the way they went on, it is something that Michelle and Co could turn around.

[ironfromafar]

I would love to be in the DRE but alas at the moment until i retire thats out the question , that said even though im across tuther side of the world i found ways to contribute both directly and via folks doing stuff on the ground there .. so being out of the country what do i get in return for my contributions ? Easy answer …. my memories and love for my home town club are well worth a few quid and im guessing many other Scunny fans around the world feel the same.

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[Awaywego]

It’s their business not mine,there the ones who’ve increased the non playing staff they decide on spend.
You can only drink from the well so many times before it runs dry and scunnys pushed that this season to the max.
Not like households aren’t struggling financially already and you expect more.

Swanny only wanted crowds of 4000 and what they bring to break even and that was in the EFL.
If we can’t break even in non league with our income something is seriously wrong.
God knows what they will be like when crowds drop a thousand or more in poorer footballing times.

Anyway good luck but count me out.

[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

It’s their business not mine

The point is that it might be their business, not yours – but it’s your Club. If you’ve lost that understanding then that’s that.

[backofthenet18]

Apollo11 wrote:

Agree with the OP, even with an army of Stu Maw clones basic fundraising simply isnt gonna be enough and hopefully the club and fans can come up with a solution…

It’s going to require something like a monthly / annual / five year / ten year / lifelong membership scheme and subscription model. It needs to be properly set-up, properly committed to. I personally would sign up to something to put more money in, in this way. I’m not sure I’d expect much more in return than just knowing I was making a difference, after the last few turbulent years and the recent increased awareness of how fragile things are. Other members will want something more for their ‘subs’ and so that is an area where the Club and organised fan groups could engage over ideas.

I listened to the FC100000 guy’s BBC Humberside interview again and, in the cold light of day, to be completely fair to him he made some good points about football clubs in general. However, there is no clear proof of concept for his particular ‘new improved version’ business model. I thought as much as he showed an understanding of football clubs as businesses he showed a clear lack of understanding of football fans.

I can’t see that thread
Who’s the guys name who starts the thread

[Apollo11]

I can’t see that thread
Who’s the guys name who starts the thread

Which thread are you referring to?

[Awaywego]

And my club lost all total reality with what’s important to average joe.
After this lot have gone it’ll still be my club.
What’s happened since July when we were within £100,000 of being debt free to being in total shit street again losing £65,000 a month, yet you want fans to help a business that’s allowed that to happen, did fans help Swanny or Hilton out.
No of course not, many even stopped going to games while they were at the helm.

[backofthenet18]

Apollo11 wrote:

I can’t see that thread
Who’s the guys name who starts the thread

Which thread are you referring to?

Where you mentioned bru getting slated on Scunny fans Facebook

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Awaywego wrote:

And my club lost all total reality with what’s important to average joe.
After this lot have gone it’ll still be my club.
What’s happened since July when we were within £100,000 of being debt free to being in total shit street again losing £65,000 a month, yet you want fans to help a business that’s allowed that to happen, did fans help Swanny or Hilton out.
No of course not, many even stopped going to games while they were at the helm.

2 separate issues; The cash flow problem will never have gone away since WHAM decided to give out lucrative contracts and stop paying them after 1 month.

After July they have a chance to balance the books properly, although I suspect there will still need to be additional funding raised.

[Ben]

We already have the monthly draw which is (I believe) run by a third party, could this not be brought in-house so all the revenue minus the prizes be kept within the club. There are clubs up and down the country that run a monthly draw that seem better than ours for less (£1 weekly draw seems more attractive than a £10 monthly due to the cost).

Also could we make the prizes more attractive, more suitable to your prospective client again look at what others do.

[ironfromafar]

backofthenet18 wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

I can’t see that thread
Who’s the guys name who starts the thread

Which thread are you referring to?

Where you mentioned bru getting slated on Scunny fans Facebook

It was me that read the thread slagging Bru off earlier today .. its on the Scunny club fb page not the Fans fb page.
Posted on the CLUB STATEMENT thread by a member Jason Hinsley
apparently all this is our fault

i tried to copy n paste it here but wont let me post comes up as an error.

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[ironfromafar]

Here you go
Credited to Jason Hinsley on the SUFC fb page

The bell ends on Iron Bru have caused all this with stupid rumours by the half a dozen or so that still bother to post on the site, a site ran by a guy who falsley accused a major fundraiser at SUFC of being a thief and wasn’t man enough to publicly apologise, the same guy that mind boggling the iron trust keep as a committee member Michelle, rest assured the majority of us are 100% behind what you and the other board members are doing and trust you with the future of the club, ignore the morons on Bru and keep doing what you’re doing

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[Siderite]

What stupid rumours? Is he aware that there was truth in this and that FC100,000’s announcement made it clear that they were presenting it as a deal to be heavily involved with the club? It was them who made the announcement, launched their GCSE project of a website and leaked to The Athletic, with evidence that it was Scunthorpe for the eagle eyed. Dan Stamp and a few others enabled this to be confirmed with their own talk and digging. None of it came from this forum and those involved with this site (e.g. Matt B and E) only commented after the talk from others.

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[ironfromafar]

I was trying to work out the guys thought process has to just how it was all Brus fault …

answers on a post card to …..

[Deereyme66]

Rather than admitting they got something spectacularly wrong in the past, some double down with utter nonsense.

[Sanfran49]

Siderite wrote:

What stupid rumours? Is he aware that there was truth in this and that FC100,000’s announcement made it clear that they were presenting it as a deal to be heavily involved with the club? It was them who made the announcement, launched their GCSE project of a website and leaked to The Athletic, with evidence that it was Scunthorpe for the eagle eyed. Dan Stamp and a few others enabled this to be confirmed with their own talk and digging. None of it came from this forum and those involved with this site (e.g. Matt B and E) only commented after the talk from others.

On that Ollie Turner – Humberside interview right at the start the FC100K says they where looking at the acquisition of a club which says buy to me. Then someone showed the ‘Steps’ of the FC plan when they get in. They clearly say they want 50% of the shares + 1 ‘golden share’ ! That golden share means takeover because no way are they going to put the money of 40K investors weekly or monthly into the club without 100% control.

Anyway it would appear they have gone and now we have look at ways to protect ourselves and then push on.

Would be interested if Iron Trust come up with a plan which coordinates all efforts.

[cassidystash]

ironfromafar wrote:

Here you go
Credited to Jason Hinsley on the SUFC fb page
The bell ends on Iron Bru have caused all this with stupid rumours by the half a dozen or so that still bother to post on the site, a site ran by a guy who falsley accused a major fundraiser at SUFC of being a thief and wasn’t man enough to publicly apologise, the same guy that mind boggling the iron trust keep as a committee member Michelle, rest assured the majority of us are 100% behind what you and the other board members are doing and trust you with the future of the club, ignore the morons on Bru and keep doing what you’re doing

TBF he’s probably right about the “half dozen or so bell ends” who post on here although I think m****s is a bit strong. I’d be interested to know what he thinks about the rest of us. I’m guessing he’s not a member of Bru or the Iron Trust.

[Iron-awe]

Hinsley is spouting so much drivel, not sure how he knows what the majority are thinking, perhaps he has ESP ( Extra Sensitive Piles )

[Apollo11]

… ignore the morons on Bru and keep doing what you’re doing

Ignore the morons on Bru and you probably wouldn’t have a Club.

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[Deereyme66]

You can flip that too – listen to some who used to be on here and we might not have a club. Some would rather take their unjustified bitterness to the grave than swallow their pride.

[Awaywego]

One has such a big opinion of ones self Cass, are you so far up your own arse that you believe you weren’t one of the said morons they were referring to lol ffs.

Guess your one of them there genuine supporters Ironawe was referring to as well, respect man respect.

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