Seriously, what the fuck is he doing ?. I get he’s got a team full of youngsters but why does he keep playing these odd formations with players playing out of position ?
Hornshaw is dog mess at RB but he has no choice but to really play him, Clarke’s not match fit and Rowe is crocked. I won’t blame him for that.
Come on though, Eisa left out, Gillead out of position, Hypolyte out of position. The formation is complete dog shit.
Why not just go 4/4/2 and stick O’Malley LB and Hornshaw RB ?. Play with Eisa and Gillead out wide instead of willingly fucking everything up from the off.
To make it worse though, he brings Eisa to go upfront to replace Loft who should have been off much earlier, to then move him out to the left hand side and then brings Hallam on when Green is there on the bench.
I feared this would happen, another supposed 4/4/2 man that goes completely the opposite way and makes really odd decisions.
I really do hope he get’s his head out of his arse and keeps clear of this formation. Watching that today shows those two in CM don’t work. Spence is too passive in there.
We need Colclough shipping out and get a RB and an experienced CM player in.
Loft today, deary me….shocking. Why Green wasn’t brought on I’ve no idea. Turan looked a good player though pretty pleased with him. O’Malley looked good when he came on and Gillead carried on the good work.
Apart from those though, absolutely shocking. Cox is making a hard job near impossible with these strange decisions though. Somebody needs to have a word in his ear and get it sorted.
I hoped Lillis would offer that but doesn’t appear to be the case. Cox needs to go back playing players in their positions for starters in a 4/4/2, if he doesn’t then this season, which we already thought was going to be a slog will be absolute torture.
Crawley today were shocking. I expect those to be down the bottom.
I was wondering whether somebody behind the scenes is directing managers to play like this, all these supposed 4/4/2 men end up fielding these fucked up formations.
As I said, I get he’s get a hard job but it’s just baffling what formation is being put out. I honestly do not know for the life of me what the hell is going on.
This is has happened with too many now to simply call this a coincidence.
Cox said Clarke is back next week and will be in contention for a start. If he fields that fucked up mess again when we have a proper RB to field, somebody is surely fecking around behind the scenes.
Olomola is back training next week too so will only be 2 or 3 weeks away.
Even that shite today I was impressed with Turan. Only one game but he looks to have something, looks a decent enough player.
I really do hope next match he goes 4/4/2 with a flat back 4, 2 wingers and strikers. No more of this next match please !
It’s been said that Cox needs time, first management position with a large squad of young and inexperienced players. It will be a season of experiment and learning. A finish outside of relegation will be seen as acceptable by the owners and we’ll have to settle for that.
It’s been said that Cox needs time, first management position with a large squad of young and inexperienced players. It will be a season of experiment and learning. A finish outside of relegation will be seen as acceptable by the owners and we’ll have to settle for that.
He does need time to learn and we have to appreciate that, however signs that he is learning need to be apparent. The glaring error of continuing to play players out of position (except out of necessity) and thus reducing their effectiveness should be the subject of lesson 1.
What I have seen of the Vale, Newport and Crawley games is, defensively we have not played with a proper full back apart from Butroid against Vale, all 4 goals conceded in these games have all been defensive errors or poor defending, the goals against Newport and Crawley through playing a midfielder at right back and getting caught on the wrong side of the winger, central defence looks OK apart from Vale’s first goal, midfield seems OK, but upfront Loft was isolated first 2 games but scored 2 cracking goals, yesterday he wasn’t at his best so people who have praised him the last 2 games have made him the worst footballer ever, he had a new partner yesterday who had a indifferent game, we are without a few players through injuries and a couple who we have no idea were they are, but over those 3 games we have never troubled the keeper apart from the 2 goals, players are being played out of position and the formation isn’t suiting what we have got, we desperately need experience at full back or proper full backs and honestly Hornshaw will never be a full back, also attack wise we need to start working the keeper because yesterday he only had one shot to save, and seeing what height we have upfront I can’t remember us winning many headers and never felt we would score always picking up wrong options.
Said it so many times play our way, make opponents deal with us !
Again square pegs in round holes is a recipe for disaster and then 3 5 1 1 compounds it.
The goal not all Hornshaws fault as a lot seem to take delight at having a go at him. When you look at the footage. What was the CB doing then what was the left sided CB doing when the ball came across ?
It’s the playing players all out of position which is getting me, that shouldn’t have to be learned, he’s been around football a long time, he should instinctively know that.
That’s my one big annoyance…it’s not needed. Playing Hornshaw at RB, I get it as we have no other real viable options but to do what he’s been doing is stupid and hurts us as a result.
As I said above, he should know this already. That shouldn’t be something he should have to learn.
Not at all I just urge you to ring the new manager and advise him, you appear to know better, I think you should contact him and put him right, he could well be very grateful to be put on the right track by such a loyal supporter. Not having second thoughts are you? Dont, go for it.
3 games and you’re already an expert on what he’s doing wrong? It’s a wonder you’re not manager WG.
You know how everyone was saying “give him time” at the start of the season? Well, guess what that means? You might have to wait a few more games until you form your judgements. There might be reason in his “madness”, there might be reasons why certain players aren’t being picked.
Time will tell. My suspicion is he’s desperately trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
I was hoping that everyone will give him two seasons in charge before people putting the boot in Ferrite,( not saying anyone is at the moment) We’ve got the man fans wanted now let him get on with it, just don’t expect an instant fix if we get one then all well and good if we don’t just roll with it. It was said that Cox had input into the signings before he became manager so let’s blame a certain person and I don’t mean Boris.
Cox hasn’t exactly got off to a flying start but I’m willing to give him time. What I can’t quite fathom or give him much time for is playing people out of position or not playing them at all. Eisa and Gilliead were two of our very few positives from last season but so far this season they’re yet to play a single game in their actual position. Move them back out to the wings and start actually attacking teams like Cox professed he would…not pass the ball about nicely at the back making your possession stats look nice with no cutting edge (been there before haven’t we??).
I was hoping that everyone will give him two seasons in charge before people putting the boot in Ferrite,( not saying anyone is at the moment) We’ve got the man fans wanted now let him get on with it, just don’t expect an instant fix if we get one then all well and good if we don’t just roll with it. It was said that Cox had input into the signings before he became manager so let’s blame a certain person and I don’t mean Boris.
Cox hasn’t exactly got off to a flying start but I’m willing to give him time. What I can’t quite fathom or give him much time for is playing people out of position or not playing them at all. Eisa and Gilliead were two of our very few positives from last season but so far this season they’re yet to play a single game in their actual position. Move them back out to the wings and start actually attacking teams like Cox professed he would…not pass the ball about nicely at the back making your possession stats look nice with no cutting edge (been there before haven’t we??).
Could it be that he thinks he can get more out of them by putting them in different positions? Remember when Gareth Bale was just a reserve left-back? Didn’t Cristiano Ronaldo spend his early days on the wing, not scoring many goals?
He could think that, but I am struggling to see why he would think that given the performances we’ve seen so far in those positions, especially with Eisa. Gillead has played alright, but I still feel he’s more suited to the wing.
Also, this does give some evidence against the common denominator of the strategy/team being totally controlled by the chairman. You’d think if Swann was the one calling the shots he’d have had continuity between managers in term of playing position. However, Cox is playing Eisa and Gillead in different positions. This gives some suggestion that this is a managerial decision.
From what I’ve seen, Eisa is quick with a cracking shot and Gillead is slower with a good range of passing: based on that, both could well shine in their “new” positions, given a bit of time. But I could be wrong, so could Cox.
I would just ask why Cov is doing this, does he feel that moving these players will help make up for shortfalls in other areas of the squad? We all know we’re short of midfielders and none of the fit strikers are particularly quick.
But if it doesn’t work, I’m sure Cox will shuffle the deck again in a couple of games, you just have to give these things a bit of a chance.
He could think that, but I am struggling to see why he would think that given the performances we’ve seen so far in those positions, especially with Eisa. Gillead has played alright, but I still feel he’s more suited to the wing.
Also, this does give some evidence against the common denominator of the strategy/team being totally controlled by the chairman. You’d think if Swann was the one calling the shots he’d have had continuity between managers in term of playing position. However, Cox is playing Eisa and Gillead in different positions. This gives some suggestion that this is a managerial decision.
There is no proof whatsoever that Swann has been choosing the team. Where he is guilty is in choosing poor managers.
There is no proof whatsoever that Swann has been choosing the team. Where he is guilty is in choosing poor managers.
I agree with the first point but who would you list as a poor manager?
Wilcox – won promotion, for all his flaws.
Robbins – had his moments and has done excellently elsewhere.
Alexander – ditto.
Daws – who knows from barely 10 games?
McCall – not great but not terrible.
Hurst – was showing some promise before leaving suddenly.
None of them are particularly exciting appointments but they’re not awful. I would argue all of them should have been given more time, apart perhaps from Robbins.
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