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October 9, 2022 at 10:26 am #246489
Protests continuing and now some of the riot police sent to quell them are giving up. It’s impossible to know how widespread this is, but it could be some glimmers of an escalation which could be terminal for the regime. Optimism on my behalf, maybe, but it’s one country that would be good to see some more progressive improvement. I have spoken to Iranians myself, all of whom truly hate the regime and want this to end. Let’s hope it does and it can become free and more democratic.
Incredible scenes. Riot police uniting with protestors against the regime. #IranRevolution
pic.twitter.com/0NpbeoAILC— David Patrikarakos (@dpatrikarakos) October 9, 2022
October 9, 2022 at 12:45 pm #246496Would be unbelievable if the Iranian women could get some proper democratic justice but these religious fanatics are so intense, they will take some bloody shifting IMO but good luck to Iranians fighting for their internal freedom.
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October 9, 2022 at 5:18 pm #246509Man-made religions are always doomed to fail.
October 9, 2022 at 6:03 pm #246510Say what??
October 9, 2022 at 6:16 pm #246512So Christianity is not a man made religion?
October 9, 2022 at 7:14 pm #246514bill pissing into the wind again.
October 9, 2022 at 9:20 pm #246521Greylag- “So Christianity is not a man-made religion?”
No ,it’s not.
The only time God has revealed Himself in “time”, is in Jesus Christ. He proved He was God in human form by performing miracles,brought the dead back to life ,died on the Cross and rose again to prove who He was. God’s command is to repent and have faith in the only mediator between God and Man(Jesus Christ)to receive the undeserved gift of Grace and Eternal life in Heaven.October 9, 2022 at 9:24 pm #246522lol
October 9, 2022 at 10:39 pm #246524No bill it’s a fairy story written by man and put in a big pretty book for you to read.
October 9, 2022 at 11:02 pm #246526Praying for the fall of the regime in Iran. Such courage displayed.. especially in the earlier stages before the protests grew.
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October 10, 2022 at 12:49 am #246528Anyone else remember this?
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October 10, 2022 at 12:11 pm #246542Greylag- “So Christianity is not a man-made religion?”
No ,it’s not.
The only time God has revealed Himself in “time”, is in Jesus Christ. He proved He was God in human form by performing miracles,brought the dead back to life ,died on the Cross and rose again to prove who He was. God’s command is to repent and have faith in the only mediator between God and Man(Jesus Christ)to receive the undeserved gift of Grace and Eternal life in Heaven.3-2-1 you’re back in the room! When I shuffle off I won’t be having eternal life, I’ll just return to what I was ten months before I was born, nothing.
October 10, 2022 at 1:08 pm #246543I’m guessing the first time bill read about Jesus was in a book written by man, that just about wraps it up bill.
October 10, 2022 at 1:23 pm #246545this wouldn’t be such a high priority news item if Iran bought weapons from us,no doubt slating Iran would be islamophobic if they did
October 10, 2022 at 1:34 pm #246546Aye, 2011 Arab Spring protests never made headline news, because the west had cordial relations with some of the countries (e.g. Egypt).
October 10, 2022 at 10:24 pm #246566TwoWrights ,”I’ll just return to what I was ten months before I was born, nothing”.
So in your “world view “life has no ultimate meaning.
You obviously used “Laws of Logic” to come to this conclusion. Where do the laws of logic come from? If we are just created from a “Big Bang” ( how can you get life from non-life?), where do the laws of logic come from?? Once you think about this question your presuppositions will be in exposed as foolishness.October 10, 2022 at 10:29 pm #246567Way to hijack a thread about the injustices brought on by one religion, when it’s state sanctioned, with this pap.
October 10, 2022 at 10:34 pm #246569Reply to the pretty man made book you first got to read about Jesus in please, no dodging now Mr Christian.
October 11, 2022 at 8:02 am #246573Praying for the fall of the regime in Iran. Such courage displayed.. especially in the earlier stages before the protests grew.
You can’t put your faith in prayers, JI!
October 11, 2022 at 3:56 pm #246589He’s dodged it, obviously his faith is weak.
October 11, 2022 at 10:04 pm #246593TwoWrights ,”I’ll just return to what I was ten months before I was born, nothing”.
So in your “world view “life has no ultimate meaning.
You obviously used “Laws of Logic” to come to this conclusion. Where do the laws of logic come from? If we are just created from a “Big Bang” ( how can you get life from non-life?), where do the laws of logic come from?? Once you think about this question your presuppositions will be in exposed as foolishness.Life has but the one meaning, to produce the next generation, every thing else is just detail.
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October 12, 2022 at 9:41 am #246597So where does that leave people without offspring or belief in God? A meaningless life?
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October 12, 2022 at 10:13 am #246598Gurney wrote : You can’t put your faith in prayers, JI!
Agreed.
But I’ve made it no secret that I have faith in one who I pray to. For me prayer is dynamic and gives me involvement and agency in situations that are heart rending and otherwise saturated with a sense of futility and impotence. There’s much that is mysterious about this … but then I’m not claiming to understand everything.
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October 12, 2022 at 10:21 am #246600So where does that leave people without offspring or belief in God? A meaningless life?
Childless and Godless. That life can be full and well lived but it still ends with your last breath, and there’s nothing after that.
🙂October 12, 2022 at 10:45 am #246602I would agree. But I wouldn’t say it’s meaningless. Meaning is a human construct IMO. Having a child can still be meaningless for some people. Just the same as a meaningful life can be constructed around other themes that have nothing to do with children and God.
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October 12, 2022 at 10:50 am #246603Other themes like food eating…
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October 12, 2022 at 12:12 pm #246604Life is ultimately meaningless in an atheistic worldview.
The atheist will “try” to create meaning to an ultimately meaningless worldview.
They are suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.
I will start another thread to put points forward to show an evolutionary “accident” worldview is unsustainable and only a creationist worldview can be the logical answer.October 12, 2022 at 12:15 pm #246605An ‘evolutionary worldview’ makes as little sense as a ‘gravity worldview’ or a ‘plate tectonics worldview.’ It is a scientific theory and no moral code comes from it, because it is an explanation as to how animals have changed through time. Your premise is flawed from the start.
At least you’re moving this elsewhere now, after triggering a reaction (I believe deliberately) on a thread where it is most unbecoming.
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October 12, 2022 at 3:04 pm #246620‘I will start another thread to put points forward to show an evolutionary “accident” worldview is unsustainable and only a creationist worldview can be the logical answer.’
Can you put some empirical evidence and facts in the new thread OP please?
October 12, 2022 at 6:36 pm #246625Yes and can you answer the question about where you read about Jesus the first time? In a book written by man perhaps 🤔
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