How Many Duffers Des It Take To Wreck A Team?

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    lesgeolesgeo
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    One bad GK and you might never win a match again.

    One bad CB and you have defensive chaos.

    One bad CM and you both lose control of the game and are no longer able to build attacks.

    You could have eight other players from above average to pretty good and you are still done for with those first three.

    (There are a number of other positions you could major on and come to a very similar conclusion.)

    Sometimes its complicated by goodish players who forget how to pass.

    Other times, it’s compounded by an ordinariness in several positions.

    It is never ‘all of the above’ – and the idea of slamming every player, including those who are learning, progressing and improving is absurd.

    We began the season without a proper spine – and as a consequence – this, above all other contributory factors, is why we are being relegated.

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    SD0101SD0101
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    Also add in two poor managers cox completely out of his depth and needed someone experienced to help him and benny hill experienced but clueless. A strong spine in a team is vital and hill still can not see it.An experienced goalkeeper who the defensive could rely on would have been a priority.Hill was brought in to save us from relegation to put out a team that would fight for points,twenty three other teams in the league are doing just that scrapping for points while hill has for too long spun it around to building for next year. Failed in the task he was brought here for.Turnbull don’t get pally give him the boot fresh start needed

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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    ” Failed in the task he was brought here for.Turnbull don’t get pally give him the boot fresh start needed”

    What will Lee’s situation be under any new ownership?

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    #235389
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    Hopefully turnbull will have that sorted out before he took the job on. Now’s the time to test his powers out before hill and himself start patting each other on the back. Look at his record here atrocious show him the door

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    #235398
    BarnardFoxtonBarker..BarnardFoxtonBarker..
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    SD0101 is that really why Hill was brought here?. The master plan was to stay up,I’m not convinced.

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    An old pal of mine is a true cod. When Hurst came in January last year they were 4 points clear of relegation, and still could not keep them up. He was devastated dropping out off the league. He now excepts it but still goes to every game. That is something we have to get over pretty quickly. Hopefully we can have a clear out and get in some players in who will put up a fight to get us out of the league. Not easy guys.

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    He was devastated dropping out off the league. He now excepts it but still goes to every game. That is something we have to get over pretty quickly. Hopefully we can have a clear out and get in some players in who will put up a fight to get us out of the league. Not easy guys.

    Thing is, the Cods went down with 43 points, having won 10 league games. They might have been rubbish but they were nearly twice as good as we are this season. They were only 5 points off safety. Coming back from a season like that is difficult but not impossible; coming back from a season like we’ve had, with 24 points and 4 wins is a much bigger ask. Unless there are big changes, the long-term impact on our club could be huge.

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    Would not be so much of an issue if this was just one random poor season. We have been utterly shite now for the last four of them.

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    Relegation is relegation however many points you get, cods will have been more pissed off than us they can look back at so many games where a win would have kept them up, even on fishy they keep flagellating themselves by reminding themselves if they had just beat scunny they would have stayed up, don’t you feel sorry for them.lol

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    back to OP, i think it is deeper than that Les. You can get through most games where 2 or 3 are having a poor game. I believe none of the squad are good enough however the youngsters can develop and learn but as Tom Newey pointed out it does no good playing full matches for the young ones. We have a set of really poor players who have been consistently poor. We wouldn’t be relegated if only 2 or 3 are bad. We’ve tried 43 different players and the recruitment has been disgraceful. KH also appears to have given up on tactics and is just throwing players at the pitch and seeing what lands. We have 7-8 not up to it every match and the rest made up of youngsters who cannot learn purely because of the circumstances that are thrust upon them.

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    #235434
    lesgeolesgeo
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    Do you know, I thought our chairman, at the end of 2021, had promised that the embargo issue would be sorted out and debts paid off to allow for January signings IF needed by the new manager in order to save our skins.

    All those blaming Hill seem to have forgotten this minute detail.

    NOW, DID THAT HAPPEN – OR DID IT NOT?

    Because if it did – please feel free to blame the manager. If it didn’t – then whose fault was it that Hill was only able to bring in a motley crew largely unable to do the job?

    Here’s a clue: other clubs in the division were signing decent enough players – often in quantity – from the very beginning of January.

    We weren’t. We got the leftovers!

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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Weren’t Oldham also under the EFL embargo? Cearly had an effect if so, the table doesn’t lie

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    SD0101SD0101
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    At least Oldham are still scrapping for points not rolling over and having their bellies tickled like us

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    IronaweIronawe
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    I agree Les, the embargo hamstrung us, the constraints were serious enough to prevent KH getting any of his choices and he made do. Oldham had bigger revenues so could be more flexible and get better players – our chairman who has yet to fulfil one promise said we were ok with the constraints – clearly that was BS. KH was dealt a crap hand but part of me thinks he’s just given up. I will reiterate though our plight is only down to one man and his family.

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