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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    2,800 home fans there today after an 18 month absence.

    Loads of space in the middle of the side stands which are usually occupied by season ticket holders.

    Few more bad results and that could drop off significantly to well below 2,500.

    It should be a massive wake up call for Swann but I somehow doubt it. I fear for how this season could end up off the field as much as on it.

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    We have a budget and Cox has to find players to fit that budget, unless of course you want the club to spend more than it can afford.

    I thought everyone wanted a sustainable football club rather than someone like Swann pumping in millions?

    Half clubs in National league have bigger budget than us according to the iron Bru podcast on Friday night.

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    What has any of that got to do with home attendances UTI99?

    According to the Iron Bru podcast on Friday night we have assembled an exciting squad. Clearly the supporters aren’t buying into that.

    6,000 at Mansfield and Carlisle, 5,000 at Hartlepool. Obviously they hold more attraction than we do!

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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    We have a budget and Cox has to find players to fit that budget, unless of course you want the club to spend more than it can afford.

    I thought everyone wanted a sustainable football club rather than someone like Swann pumping in millions?

    Half clubs in National league have bigger budget than us according to the iron Bru podcast on Friday night.

    What on earth are you going on about?

    More to the point, why do you think so few bothered turning up today?

    I’ve also never advocated for the club to spend more than it can afford and constantly criticised Swann for spending such a high % of turnover on wages; Especially when the debt incurred has cost us our ground.

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    We have a budget and Cox has to find players to fit that budget, unless of course you want the club to spend more than it can afford.

    I thought everyone wanted a sustainable football club rather than someone like Swann pumping in millions?

    Half clubs in National league have bigger budget than us according to the iron Bru podcast on Friday night.

    The things that you are saying uptheiron99 are correct regarding budgets etc, but these same rules also apply to the other 23 clubs in League 2, so it cannot be singled out as if Scunthorpe are the only club that have a limited budget.

    It is the same situation regarding Mr Swann keep making reference to the club being hit by the Covid virus, you will not need making aware that this virus has been a country wide, in fact a world wide epedemic, it has not been limited to Scunthorpe!!!

    I am sorry to say, but all clubs are governed by 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw, yes all 24 teams come under these rules, so teams that are lingering at the bottom of the League are have either players or managements that are not as good as the others that are doing better. Todays result should not shock Scunthorpe supporters simply because we lost our FIRST EIGHT MATCHES LAST SEASON, and also ended the season without I think it was ONE WIN IN OUR LAST 10 GAMES, so most of the players have now gone, but we are still being run by the same management!!!!, so will it again be acceptable if we lose our firs eight matches again?????, it certainly points in that direction. We will probably get knocked out of the two early Cup competitions as usual, and be sitting at the bottom of League 2, by September, so once again, we will be like Butlins Holiday Camp, our seasons will be over by the end of September, and budgets and Covid will certainly be the cause!!!

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    I would have liked the interviewers to ask Swann why it’s the case that so many National League clubs have a higher budget than many League 2 clubs, because I don’t know why that is. Excuse my ignorance but can anyone here explain please?

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Are they overspending in general, or have they got higher revenue?

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    BS…we most definitely DID NOT lose our first eight matches last season, not sure where you’ve got that one from!

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    National League don’t have any tight financial rules as fair as I’m aware?

    Our budget is determined by how many fans we get through the gate, which is determined by how many games we win, which is determined by how good our players are, which is determined by our budget. All connected.

    Yes there are some exceptions to the rule but not many.

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    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    National League don’t have any tight financial rules as fair as I’m aware?

    Our budget is determined by how many fans we get through the gate, which is determined by how many games we win, which is determined by how good our players are, which is determined by our budget. All connected.

    Yes there are some exceptions to the rule but not many.

    Wrong.

    First league game in 18 months so past results have no influence on how many should turn up. Stop trying to shift the blame onto the fans already.

    To answer the question you dodged earlier- the reason so few are bothering is because they are pissed off with the current owner.

    The blocked drains, ripped flags, dirty seats and a club legend like John staff having to and flog his book on donny road are just the cherry on top of this shit show.

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    Those drains have been blocked for several seasons now and is just another indicator of how little the Chairman is bothered in general. Actually when I went to pick up my ticket for the game a few days back there were a group of guys working on the drains but obviously it’s a bigger problem that needs resolving. Perhaps an over abundance of shit in the board room could be the answer.

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    UTI99 i along with most people were used to budgetary constraints at SUFC as they were used to good effect by our previous chairman.
    Why has it taken so many years for our current chairman to grasp this?
    If he had acted sooner we would still own our own ground etc.

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    Perhaps an over abundance of shit in the board room could be the answer.

    There’s been plenty of shit on the pitch for the past three seasons but the turf is still looking patchy!

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    National League don’t have any tight financial rules as fair as I’m aware?

    Our budget is determined by how many fans we get through the gate, which is determined by how many games we win, which is determined by how good our players are, which is determined by our budget. All connected.

    Yes there are some exceptions to the rule but not many.

    Thanks for that UTI99, you may well be right with your first point, but the rest of your explanation is too simplistic and doesn’t explain why a lot of budgets of NL clubs is higher than a lot of L2 clubs. All you’ve done is say Swann is managing the budget like a household one now, which everybody knows. It doesn’t help with answering the question, unless you’re implying that those NL clubs are either overspending or have higher revenue from Gate receipts?

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    There might also be a case to be argued that he seems better at overspending than managing within means, given we almost reached the Championship twice and were being served up decent football with some excellent players. Now that the debt is wiped clean, why not ho again? After all, he may now own the ground, but apparently ‘nothing’s changed’.

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Could it be that some NL clubs are bigger clubs than ours and have more fans, Wrexham sold over 5000 season tickets cods nearly 3000, why is everyone hung up with the attendances, all it will
    mean is swanny having to put more money in and leave a bigger debt for the next owner. It’s not like he puts prices up to compensate for less fans.

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    Indeed. 2019/20 average home gates..

    Notts County 5.210
    Stockport County 4.342
    Wrexham AFC 4.057
    Chesterfield FC 3.670

    Scunthorpe United 3.546

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    I expect I am no different to many others, I don’t care about foot long sausages, tatty flags, crap drains, crap ground, dirty seats, all I want to see is some entertaining attacking football. Give me 2/3 goals and a win at a home game and I will be happy and I am sure so would many others and we would soon have crowds of 4000+.

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    Indeed. 2019/20 average home gates..

    Notts County 5.210
    Stockport County 4.342
    Wrexham AFC 4.057
    Chesterfield FC 3.670

    Scunthorpe United 3.546

    Our gates reflect the interest shown by Mr Swann to the opinions and ideas offered by the supporters. We have all seen the on field decay of pitch ability and after three successful seasons the target must have been achieved whereby so many supporters have given up.

    Last season the managers after match interview that followed defeat after defeat summed it up. I didn’t go yesterday so will not comment on players performances but the manager saying players did what they wanted and ignored instructions sums it up ! No one is in charge and that is after 1 game !!

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    It’s not that dirty seats, tatty flags and blocked drains are major issues in themselves, it’s the message that, and the general neglect of the stadium, gives out. It’s basically saying ‘I don’t really give a toss about the ground and the supporter experience’. He admitted he hasn’t even been down to have a look. How can you expect people to care if it looks like you don’t? This attitude will permeate through the club, from the top down. Where’s the pride in stewardship gone? Lead by example.

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    Don’t expect to start seeing an improvement on the pitch if the basics off it are being ignored.

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    #211595
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    Our budget is determined by how many fans we get through the gate, which is determined by how many games we win, which is determined by how good our players are, which is determined by our budget. All connected.

    Also by how much tickets cost, by how easy it is to get to the ground, by the state of the ground when you get in, by how involved fans feel in the club.

    It’s easy to blame the team but there will be plenty of crap sides who manage to get more people through the gate.

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    #211598
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    UTI99 i along with most people were used to budgetary constraints at SUFC as they were used to good effect by our previous chairman.
    Why has it taken so many years for our current chairman to grasp this?
    If he had acted sooner we would still own our own ground etc.

    Except that isn’t what he wants

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    It’s not that dirty seats, tatty flags and blocked drains are major issues in themselves, it’s the message that, and the general neglect of the stadium, gives out. It’s basically saying ‘I don’t really give a toss about the ground and the supporter experience’. He admitted he hasn’t even been down to have a look. How can you expect people to care if it looks like you don’t? This attitude will permeate through the club, from the top down. Where’s the pride in stewardship gone? Lead by example.

    Superb post.
    You have my thanks for putting it so succinctly.

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    Attendances is quite simple, do well and more people go, do shite and less people go, its not rocket science, and at the moment we are the latter.

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    #211612
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    The absolute state of this. Where is the sense of pride?

    https://twitter.com/brianIronthe2nd/status/1424367457310056452?s=20

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    #211618
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    Awaywego is right about home support.

    When we are crap it drops to 2000

    When we do really well it rises to 4000

    When we are OKish it’s about 3000

    When we get to Wembley it’s about 10000

    Been that way for years.

    #211619
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Same with most teams MK, we do alright for our population.

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    The flags look like the ones flying over The Alamo!

    Quite appropriate really.

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    They should be White?

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