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No way now you can even get out of the national league without substantial investment .
Did your lot get substantial investment when they got out of the NL the other season, or are you saying it’s like that now because of Wrexham and their moneybags approach? Or maybe you just got lucky that season. 🤷
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Well i think it was a combination of luck,investment and decent manager /ownership .
We were the 6th best team when we went up but played well in 3 cup finals so that was partly luck for sure .
The budget was about 3mil with the co owners investing 1.5 -that wasnt just playing budget .
Somebody did a spreadsheet i think we had the 4/5th highest budget and that was just to scrape in the play offs wrexham ,Notts ,Chesterfield and Stockport had 4-6mil budgets which seems insane really .
I just dont get how you would go right through with a sustainable model unless you managed to somehow raise a few million quid every year ?1 user thanked author for this post.
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Topics: 59Well i think it was a combination of luck,investment and decent manager /ownership .
We were the 6th best team when we went up but played well in 3 cup finals so that was partly luck for sure .
The budget was about 3mil with the co owners investing 1.5 -that wasnt just playing budget .
Somebody did a spreadsheet i think we had the 4/5th highest budget and that was just to scrape in the play offs wrexham ,Notts ,Chesterfield and Stockport had 4-6mil budgets which seems insane really .
I just dont get how you would go right through with a sustainable model unless you managed to somehow raise a few million quid every year ?Crowds won’t be as high as some are expecting next season.
We will be marooned at NL / NLN or lower for the foreseeable future.
We will not have the money to get back to the EFL.2 users thanked author for this post.
Facts are there for all to see with the situation at SUFC, that is for those that want to see.
The club have been in an endless downward spiral for five years now, and although the change in ownership has suposedly taken place (Swann still being the owner of its assets), so the sale must have been for the players and its management, and looking at that squad of people, you would probably have to pay someone to take them off your hands.
Then you have the 1899 offer put to the supporters at a cost to each of £1,899 qwhich would give them a 1,899th share of the stadium and land package, this then turned into an offer that the club did not even own the package and it was in the safe hands of Swann, a man that has not been associated with not much truth over many a year at Scunny. When it was then changed to just being the run down stadium, there is no wonder that the few takers are wanting their money returned to them.The club is not worth supporting any longer, and fans should now believe that they are now heading into the sixth level of English Football, that is after a spell or two in the second level. After tomorrows defeat at Gateshead and the Aldershot v Yeovil providing points or point to the teams above us, fans must take a long look at things and ask the question on why they continue to attend GP and watch such shite, they are paying out good money to be made miserable. The latest situation is that the new owner is not happy with the supporters, even though they are noew 3,500 each match from the 2,500 level before, and things do not appear to have got any better on thge pitch, and other things are predicted to be getting worse off it.
It is not the best way of spending your Saturday afternoon listening to RH, but at least you can add a bit of spice to things by having a beer, and counting Neil Cox’s “rEEly – rEEll and rEElly’s, his trecord whilst I have monitored them is 91 during one match.2 users thanked author for this post.
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Topics: 59A train crash of a ‘takeover’ so far!
Prepare to be humiliated at Gateshead later today.
Heed 5-0 Iron @ 50/1 – worth a punt?
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No wonder so few of the 1899 have been sold. You can’t buy into something that is not yet owned by Hilton. Swann still owns the stadium and surrounding land. To be a success it should have been announced once everything is fully signed over. That is the stadium, car park znd surrounding land. Even then I wouldn’t buy into it because we have no idea what will happen once he has paid Swann off, that is also if he pays Swann off.
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Topics: 59“The club is not worth supporting any longer.”
Great attitude BS. Bravo! 👏
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Think you are a little confused over the 1899 scheme BS. Wether you were for or against is up to each individual but get things right, it was always about fans just owning the ground and not the land. That’s how I read it anyway.
I am not really sure Iron-awe, it was not clearly stated the package content, but at it’s value of £3 million, this was supposed to have been the value that Swann wanyed for the whole club, if I am correct it was at a later date that it became clearer tht it was just for the tin shed stadium and that other projects were to be placed on the training ground, and the idea that the club training would be done in Derbyshire, and GP would be open just on match days.
Supporters do not deserve to be treated like they are, and now the new issue concerning season tickets has arrisen, and they want your money for next season before this disaster of a bloody season has even ended, just wondering what is the next thing to hit our remaining long suffering fans????2 users thanked author for this post.
You heard the bit where you can help by you and your company sponsoring the academy IFA to help keep it open.
I did listen to the podcast in its entirety and picked up on the academy funding itself plan via both monthly subs and sponsorship seemed a practical and balanced idea.
I did jokingly suggest to my two business partners both football fans (Norwich city and West Ham) we should buy 1899 shares alas with none of us wishing to be back in blighty for any length of time other than a holiday it fell on deaf ears.
I am planning / was planning to take an 1899 share when the dust settles and all appears legally sorted and may be up for some kind of sponsorship at the club (academy)…not forgetting i and my business are based in Asia so just how something could happen would need looking at, our business here does deal with some big European companies and recently we talked them into sponsoring Rugby sevens tournament.
I am planning a trip back to Scunny at some point, family stuff to sort here first so re SUFC IMO ITS EARLY DAYS UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP AND ITS NOT REALLY GONE TO PLAN AS YET …but may well do something in the future
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Topics: 59It’s going to take a massive over the (self financing) budget spend to get us out of the NLN.
Looks like that league will be our level for a fair amount of time.
Most of us old timers probably won’t see SUFC back in the EFL.1 user thanked author for this post.
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Topics: 59If he did that then the club wouldn’t be self sustainable would it Rene, you don’t half come up with some guff mate. Or maybe he’s lying about that aswell eh 🤔
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Academy saved now, viable business plan in place plus support from the Chairman, I’m guessing the doom mongers will be grumbling about something though. Well done to the new owner for listening and considering a workable plan, not like the previous guy whosw word was law whatever others thought.
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Whilst we can all agree that the u-turn was indeed a sensible choice, the worry for me was that he thought that was a good idea in the first place. IMO Hilton has not got off to a good start, but the jury is still out and I will wait to see what happens over the summer and into next season.
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Funny but an accurate reflection of recent events IMO, given some of the hostility to those who question some of the suggestions being put forward:
Yesterday – ‘We welcome any move of the club to Ilkeston and their World Class facilities, the moaners wouldn’t have a club etc’
Today ‘Staying at Scunthorpe is the best move and proves he listens to us, the non moaners’ pic.twitter.com/dkUPu7sQjY
— ScunYoo (@1500club) April 6, 2023
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Academy saved now, viable business plan in place plus support from the Chairman, I’m guessing the doom mongers will be grumbling about something though. Well done to the new owner for listening and considering a workable plan, not like the previous guy whosw word was law whatever others thought.
But did he change his mind once he realised to shut it down immediately would not save a penny. That actually was going to cost him.
Strikes me that no discussions had been held with the Academy before the original statement ! Which seems very strange.
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Maybe Sanfran or maybe the announcement was the catalyst for the academy staff to come up with a viable plan, you know get them thinking outside the box for a change ( not a pun on long range shots on goal BTW ). Either way it appears to show the new owner is a lot more flexible in his thinking and approach to problem solving then the previous one and is obviously prepared to listen to others at the club, surely that’s a good thing, isn’t it 🤔
IfA the money is needed now for the academy not in the future or it will fold.
I can just imagine what my two biz partners would say re any donation /sponsorship at this moment and i wont embarrass myself even putting it too them …the fact GP ownership is still up in the air along with other grey areas im afraid a cautious approach is needed much the same as IMO Hilton should of done directly after he purchsed the club ..look where hasty business dealings got the club !!!
Re the academy ..great news that a viable plan has been submitted and approved .. will we be privvy to this plan anytime soon so any people wishing to assist know more details ? and more so does it include a hefty salary for Daws ? i assumed he would be one in the cull box on Hiltons list of where things can be streamlined.If would be interesting to know just how many back room staff will be kept on or given their p45s .. or who has already agreed to leave the building Mussy, Daws to name 2 …how many coaches does the club need in NLN level ?
David Hilton has my backing and i feel positive he will come good ..alas not so with JD the jury is still out on the manager and i think Hilts will have a difficult decision to make on that score in the not too distant future.
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