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  • #294266
    ironingboardironingboard
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    #294267
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    It will be David O’ Leary.

    #294269
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    I’m unreliably informed he has been seen at Forest Pines.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Always has been spotted at Forest Pines, but never seems to take that final step. Is now the time we get him ?

    #294281
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    He’s aged many years since that first sighting at FP.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    mulligan-and-ohare-3

    #294283
    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    looking good deirdrie. did you go to paul gordons

    #294284
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    “you wore a car coat and I wore a car coat’

    #294285
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    The job being advertised suggests it wasn’t made redundant

    #294286
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    It’s not the same job.

    #294287
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Pity it’s not as easy to terminate managers and players contracts. Would have saved us a fortune over the last few years.

    #294291
    adminSST
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    Similar job, but different.

    #294292
    ironingboardironingboard
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    Seems to be slanted more toward the modern fetish of data driven moneyball.

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    Similar job, but different.

    just different enough to avoid a tribunal ?

    #294294
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    In Michelle’s interview it really sounded like Turnbull will be taking the club to a tribunal.

    #294297
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    In the interview Michelle stated they were still on talking terms. It didn’t give me the impression of an imminent tribunal.

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    I may be totally off the mark but IMO there is some thing not quite right about the once bullet proof LT and his subsequent termination regardless what was said in the interview.
    Initially thought it was purely a fiscal money saving sacking but maybe not so much that but the other reasons Michelle did not allude to , possibly a tad too big for his boots who knows?? … lets face it if he was being paid a bonus on his recruitment success he would owe the club money its been that piss poor in recent times.

    Im sure more will come out in the coming months.

    #294299
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    Butler had the last say on all transfers so not all Turnbull’s fault. Recruitment still been crap though for some time now.

    #294301
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    I undestood it as:

    -LT’s responsibilities being split up and new responsibilities given to new roles.
    -Possible reduction in the reliance of an individual. Spread the load.
    -The club want to go in a new direction. This seems to be a modern approach (data/facts/figures/crunching numbers). Maybe LT isn’t a fan of this and prefers a fileofax brimming with contacts?

    I don’t think there was any sinister conspiracy. Just a change to the way the club operates.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    In the interview Michelle stated they were still on talking terms. It didn’t give me the impression of an imminent tribunal.

    Yes, she said he’d phoned her a few times last week to see how she was doing.

    #294308
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    Lol i was joking he’s phoned her up twice ffs, it was only a reply to the idiot head.

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    Must be the way you tell em

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    First thing the new man might want to look at on the analysis side of the new role is why in 21 competitive games (of which we have won 9) we only ever win if we keep a clean sheet.

    It got me wondering if any other teams suffer from this problem. Out of 164 teams in the top 6 tiers of English football there are only 6 other teams that cannot win if the other team score.

    Of these 4 are firmly in the relegation zone in their leagues so by default have not actually won many games. They are Cambridge United, Boston, Ebbsfleet and Enfield. They have actually had the same number of victories between them as the Iron have managed.

    The other 2 are Preston who are only outside the relegation places by a goal difference of 1 goal and Stevenage who are in 15th place in League 1 – 5 points above the relegation zone. Much like ourselves they have developed a recent habit of conceding goals and losing games. Just reflect on that for a minute – 157 teams have managed to win a game despite conceding a goal but we have never managed it in 11 games against some pretty mediocre opposition.

    The omens do not look good if we continue to only have a chance of winning a game if we keep a clean sheet – move to a back 6 or a back 7 anyone? We pretty much tried that at Scarborough and it did not end well. I don’t think their keeper had a save to make.

    Leaving aside formations for the moment are there any fundamental issues contributing to this situation?

    Could it be the players? Is the team mentality really that weak that conceding a goal ends all hope of winning a game. We certainly went to pieces at Southport, Spennymoor and at home against Rylands when we conceded. A very similar bunch of players won quite a number of games last season after conceding.

    Tactics? We have seen 2 main responses from the coaching staff to conceding. Flood the team with substitutes and/or hoof the ball forward very forcefully. Never seen either of these bear fruit as yet. I think we have tentatively switched to a back four a couple of times but probably more often brought off our best attacker of the day (Roberts, Carlton, Whitehall or Beestin at various times) often for an additional defender.

    Whatever the reason in the eleven games we have not won (i.e. that we conceded in) we have demonstrated an alarming lack of resilience for a full time professional team supposedly the fittest and highest paid in the League.

    Probably a bigger issue than 5 at the back for our current poor league position (relative to the fans, managers and boards expectations) – although I am sure some would say that might be a contributory factor.

    Whilst we wait for the new man to start feeding his analysis to the coaching team any suggestions to be directed to them care of the Attis Arena.

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    #294327
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    Butler had the last say on all transfers so not all Turnbull’s fault. Recruitment still been crap though for some time now.

    I think Michelle said AB HAS the final say, possibly implying that he didn’t whrn LT was here?

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    Butler had the last say on all transfers so not all Turnbull’s fault. Recruitment still been crap though for some time now.

    I think Michelle said AB HAS the final say, possibly implying that he didn’t whrn LT was here?

    I thought she said that Butler HAD the final say. Either way the recruitment has been poor for some time.

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    #294338
    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    they should hire you wonder bowels. you think you know everything about players

    #294346
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    Wondergoals reads between lines

    #294352
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    I have my own extensive list of players. You don’t play championship manager and football manager for as many years as me without having encyclopedic player knowledge.

    Clearly jealous.

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    I’ve never played football manager, but I’ve played Monopoly and chess a lot and never flipped the board over when things aren’t going my way.

    #294357
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Does a 2nd tier non-league team actually need a Head of Recruitment?

    How many other teams in this league have one?

    Is it a waste of £50k a year?

    Surely Stan (Butler) & Jack (Schofield) have enough contacts within the game and desperate players seeking trials?

    If the HoR ‘finds’ five players a season then that works out at £10k a player.

    Seems we’re trying to desperately cling to our ‘professional’ status and haven’t accepted our fate and faced the facts.

    We’re non-league and looking as if we’ll be grounded in this league for a while.

    Stagnation will see gates fall and ultimately we will go part-time like the rest.

    Speculate to accumulate… blah, blah, blah.

    Money for old rope, clutching at straws.

    Successful recruitment in industry is poor – with only a 30% success rate.

    Football tends to be even worse.

    I’ve looked at the top 4 teams – 2 have HoR, 2 don’t… I’m guessing that there will be more teams without HoRs than with?

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