Hartlepool away

[Heath]

Loft is not good enough and if he isn’t bothered the last place he should be is in the team.

[alcazar]

Our GD is the worst in our league.
So we now have to get four more points than the teams sitting outside the drop zone in two games, to go above them.
One win will no longer do it, which is what worried me weeks ago.
And without wins, our GD remains the same.😟

Not looking good.

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[cassidystash]

Heath wrote:

Suggests to me that Hill is trying to get through to January with our players rather than those on loan. Quickest way to get players in January is to send back the loan players he doesn’t rate and get 5 new ones in if the rules allow it.
Let’s hope the rules and current deals allow him to send this lot back and that Hill has good contacts and he alone chooses the loan players.

Another option would be to get the most out of the loanees whilst they’re here. It’s a matter of opinion of course, but I think a couple of the loanees have shown enough to have played some part yesterday. Our top goalscorer (excl. pens) surely worth a go if we’re trying to win the game.

[Heath]

I agree that Scrimshaw and Hackney could be kept if Hill can’t find any better. Let’s hope he can though. Not sure why Scrimshaw is out when Loft and Jarvis are in.

[bartonscorpion]

lesgeo wrote:

It’s not really an issue about points tallies. All we have to do is gain more points than three or four of the other bottom teams.
If we fail and better just two – the likelihood of survival is still extremely high.

We are all aware of what we need Lesgeo, but same as Alkazar says, the gap to get us out of the bottom two places is now 3 points plus goal difference, so in reality its 4 points and Oldham starting to pick up points does not help. Biut after saying that, it is another season like last year when Southend and Grimsby ended below us, but we are presently in BOTTOM place and it is nearly Christmass, so we need a couple of wins very soon, simply because we will be playing the likes of Oldham and Carlisle, so if we lose to either of them, we could be 7 points adrift, a position we would not recover from.

[ironfromafar]

The Oldham n Carlisle games are massive ..IF IF we can win those its a whole new ball game loose one or both and the writing would be on the wall….WOULD’NT IT ???
I follow the Carlisle YT .. nice young man who was “over the moon” at their away win at Stevenage at the weekend and thinks now they will pull clear and finished comfortable mid table.. as he commented the NYD fixture against Scunny is a must NOT LOOSE game for them.
Only bright side is it appears the Codheads NL honeymoon is over as they are falling down the table quicker than my gran after a bottle of sherry.

UP THE IRON …KEEP THE FAITH

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alcazar

[lesgeo]

It looks like we are down to just one CB in these last few games before January.
It may be Taft down – but this really is the time to start worrying.

[alcazar]

Nope.
That was in the last closed season, Les.😟

[Northumbiron]

The only thing we’ll miss about Taft is his height.

Rowe is a better player with the ball at his feet.

[Sanfran49]

Dan Gallimore has played at CB – admit only in the U18s but he would do his best and perhaps 1 game coverage is all the need.

[cassidystash]

I think Thompson has played CB before, seem to remember it being mentioned when we signed him.

[cokeovenkid]

Would I be wrong in saying that there are parallels between us this season and Grimsby at the end of last season ?. Didn’t their fortunes change towards the END of the season but too many draws put them where they are now ?
Obviously we have a bit more time, and more games left but we seriously need some wins and soon.
Ps let’s not get too dizzy thinking we might beat Oldham, they know how to score a goal.

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[Awaywego]

Was only talking about the comparisons on Saturday it’s really the draws that kill you at either end of the table, we only scored points in 22 games last season , against Southend’s 25 games and Grimsby s 23 but we stayed up. I would have brought Rory up for the corner right at the death on Saturday just to try and get the win.

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[WonderGoals]

If we do fail to stay up it’s definitely the lack of quality strikers will hurt us. Midfield and defence are solid enough, it’s just the last bit you need to score, we don’t seem to have.

Bunn added something the other night, whether he can chip in with a few alongside Jarvis remains to be seen.

I suppose we can try Scrimshaw and Bunn but wouldn’t the ball come back too easily with the lack of height/physical presence ?

I thought Hallam looked really bright in the one game he played up there against Donny in a worthless cup game but not seen him since.

That was one hell of a crazy signing, as soon as he’s dispatched the better.

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alcazar

[cassidystash]

WonderGoals wrote:

If we do fail to stay up it’s definitely the lack of quality strikers will hurt us. Midfield and defence are solid enough, it’s just the last bit you need to score, we don’t seem to have.

I think you’re being very generous WG. Strikers are clearly a problem but, whilst the midfield might be ‘solid’ it is seriously lacking in creativity IMO. Prem strikers score maybe 60/70% of chances, L2 strikers maybe 10/15% so if there is little in the way of creativity and the strikers only get 1 or 2 chances in a game we’re not going to score many. Regarding the defence – ‘solid’ is not the first word that comes to mind, some improvement lately I grant you but a way to go before we can be consistently called solid.

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[Heath]

“L2 strikers maybe 10/15%”

Our main striker at the start of the year, Loft, has been very consistent in his career to date as a 1 goal in 5 games man. So the team would have to create many more chances for him to show any improvement in output.

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alcazar

[cassidystash]

I’m guessing at the percentages obviously but that is pretty much what I was trying to say. If Loft only gets 2 chances per game and scores 10% he gets 1 in 5. If a creative midfield supplied 5 chances per game he’d be a 20 goal a season man. So are the strikers the real problem?

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alcazar

[alcazar]

We have strikers?

[Heath]

Let’s face it, the team is the real problem. Let’s hope Hill can continue to encourage them to improve.

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alcazar

[WonderGoals]

Hippo is getting better every game and with Beestin and Perry to come back, still think we have enough in midfield to go and create. Bunn can create providing he stays fit for more than 5 minutes.

Upfront worries me. We have loads of options but they’re all really poor besides Bunn who can play as a withdrawn striker and he’s hardly ever fit.

I still think if we had 2 good strikers at this level, we wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad as we are. No doubt we’re light in other areas but upfront is absolutely dreadful.

Turan, O’Neil, Jarvis, Loft “who can’t really be arsed” and Scrimshaw who works hard but never get’s himself in the right areas to score, similar to Jarvis.

Worst collection of strikers we’ve had since I’ve supported us.

[lesgeo]

Have to agree with that last paragraph. I might think of some very poor forward lines back in the re-election days which could match what we have at present.

[Ferrite]

My first match, in the mid-90s, featured a forward line of Ian Juryeff & Damien Henderson. I’m pretty sure they would give the current lot a decent run for their money.

[lesgeo]

The same Juryeff who was a shade under a goal every three games for us?

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alcazar

[Northumbiron]

And the same Damien Henderson that scored a goal every eight games!

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alcazar

[Ferrite]

lesgeo wrote:

The same Juryeff who was a shade under a goal every three games for us?

Did he? Funny how the memory plays tricks isn’t it?

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