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October 13, 2022 at 10:15 pm #246673
Charlie can be very funny on occasion, quite the dry wit I believe, he certainly won’t be taking any crap from Truss. I can’t see him having a very high opinion of her although he will probably go out of his way not to show it but you never know, a new broom and all that.
October 13, 2022 at 11:36 pm #24667530 minutes every week. Hope she goes soon for his sake!
October 14, 2022 at 9:15 am #246680She may get the Nicholas Witchell treatment.
October 14, 2022 at 9:38 am #246682Grovelling sycophant?
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October 14, 2022 at 12:55 pm #246689I see the ringmaster (mistress?) has sacked the clown because he wasn’t a competent juggler.
What a bloody circus!
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October 14, 2022 at 2:48 pm #246699Hang on, they presented the mini budget together, they designed it themselves without consulting the cabinet (though to be fair a shelf would be more more competent) but she doesn’t resign? ‘Right, I’ve been waiting weeks for this effin bus Kwasi – now get under it man! I’m off to see big ears again, bye!!’
October 14, 2022 at 3:09 pm #246704Apparently she is going to see through what she promised. She has u turned on the scrapping of the 45p tax rate for high earners and has u turned on cutting corporation tax. When she was running for leader she promised tax cuts, I guess the minimum rate down from 20 to 19p next year should still be on but come on Tory supporters this woman is an absolute joke as PM, come out and vent your spleen.
October 14, 2022 at 3:20 pm #246706Truss gives a press conference and sods off before questioning. An embarrassing PM. At least Boris stayed to at least waffle about Peppa Pig!
October 14, 2022 at 3:22 pm #246708The Lady IS for turning…
And Auntie Maggie will be turning in her grave!
October 14, 2022 at 4:13 pm #246709Absolute shambles. She should have stood up to the wets in the party and seen through the original plans. Hugely disappointing.
October 14, 2022 at 4:43 pm #246712I am quite thankful there are enough MPs who are not too detached from the situation and are not willing to risk people’s livelihoods for a reckless gamble.
It is a shambles though, and this, along with Corbyn and Johnson, perfectly illustrates why electing party leaders based off member votes gives us unstable leaders. Party members are often unrepresentative of the public.
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October 14, 2022 at 5:28 pm #246714Who else is going to vote for a Party leader if not the Party members in some shape or form Siderite?
October 14, 2022 at 5:29 pm #246715For ‘wets’ read ‘sane’
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October 14, 2022 at 6:40 pm #246718Who else is going to vote for a Party leader if not the Party members in some shape or form Siderite?
It used to be the MPs, along with the unions for Labour. Some might say this isn’t representative, but is the current system, which has 0.1% of the population decide on the leader? Also, at least with MPs they can siphon out the incompetents through experience from working with them.
Electoral reform is something I am warming more and more to, but if we have the current system, as a parliamentary democracy, I am not keen on members having the final say.
October 14, 2022 at 7:17 pm #246719At least MP’s are representatives of the constituency they serve with our current first past the post system, 160,000 people mainly between 55 and 75 and living mainly South of Watford Gap are not representative of MP’s constituencies one iota.
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October 14, 2022 at 7:40 pm #246721The current system is bunk, for sure
October 14, 2022 at 7:42 pm #246723Do you not think these “leaders” are put forward as Aunt Sallys?
Pushed above the parapet to take the hits, whilst the rest sit safely in the dugout.
October 14, 2022 at 7:45 pm #246725It could be interpreted that way but their ego’s wouldn’t be able to resist in any case
October 14, 2022 at 7:49 pm #246726You’re probably right Deerey. The same egos that make them believe then can do whatever they want once they’re in the big chair.
October 14, 2022 at 9:07 pm #246729The biggest wet is soggy dripping Liz. Never has anyone had such an over inflated (pun intended) estimate of her ability.
And Bucks voted for her!!!
October 14, 2022 at 10:48 pm #246731Pork and cheese, pork and cheese!
October 15, 2022 at 9:24 am #246740” We import two thirds of our cheese, it’s a disgrace “. No trashing the economy and scapegoating the guy you employed as Chancellor is a disgrace Mrs.
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October 15, 2022 at 10:30 am #246742…the person instructed by the (for now) survivor, Truss, lasted less time than Cloughie at Leeds! Truss should last longer than 44 days via the self preservation society
October 15, 2022 at 10:44 am #246743She’s done well to last longer than Bill Lambton!
October 15, 2022 at 12:06 pm #246749Luckily or knowingly you didn’t put ‘Truss’ and ‘she did well’ in the same sentence!
October 15, 2022 at 12:08 pm #246750She could have saved all the cash she spent on makeovers and new wardrobes and put it towards the incoming cuts. Could have saved millions.
October 15, 2022 at 12:43 pm #246755I’m not missing anything, Gurny, wilfully or otherwise.
First you miss the point, now your point isn’t clear at all. You twist this way and that, quoting irrelevant stats just like you used to with climate change denial. At least that rubbish has stopped now.
Mostly tho’, you try to frighten folk by mentioning the ‘downside’, ‘the problem’, and ‘the big impact’ of overseas workers, and by quoting numbers of elderly who were overseas-born (a “big number”!!), as if these people were somehow undeserving, even though they’ve lived and worked here for most of their lives, mostly after being invited to come here to fix things others have broken, clean things they’ve made dirty, and look after those who can’t look after themselves while suffering a tide of abuse and marginalisation.
As for those born abroad who are now aged 26-64 – most would have been brought here by their parents when very young whether they wanted to come to Britain or not, or else they were born here but didn’t qualify for a British passport. Others would have been EU citizens already working here before Brexit, such as Irish and French. So, just what is your point?
Public services? Are you really suggesting those born overseas should be refused access to them? For example, access to education, health care or emergency services, simply because they haven’t paid as much tax as some others? What about the British born workers who also earn little, like the multitude needing in-work credits? Are you really suggesting they should have less access to schools for their families, doctors for their children, subsidised housing, and so on, because they don’t pay as much tax as some high earners?
If you want to increase the number of workers from overseas, then you have to expand the services we all need and depend on, just as should happen if the birth rate increases.
Yet oddly, despite the ‘downside’ and ‘problem’ of overseas workers, and despite your support for Brexit, you say you’re “all for” immigration! With that sort of understanding, I’m surprised you can tie your own shoelaces! In fact your hypocritical contortions know no limits and are all too typical of the dreadful lies and mismanagement the country has suffered in the past 12 years, which you have consistently supported, no matter how malodorous or incompetent. Ashamed, you should indeed be.
October 15, 2022 at 3:46 pm #246760I sense another Buck’s hiatus is imminent.
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