Ground Requirements (Step One, Two etc.)

[Pat O’Cake]

Siderite wrote:

If Hilton is claiming abuse, he needs to specify how he is getting it

No he doesn’t, who do you think you are??

[Siderite]

Ok then. I can ignore such claims of abuse by messaging services or other means if no evidence is given.

p.s. I wasn’t making demands. I was stating if he wants to prove he has had abuse he just needs to show evidence. No evidence means it gets ignored. Funny how those dismissing everything being rumours would accept claims about abuse via messaging without a scrap of evidence.

[sufc_not_on_tour]

So, there is no evidence of abuse towards Hilton, only Hilton claiming it without evidence!
Strangely the only people who appear to get angry and challenge others with venom are the Hilton supporters who make these unsubstantiated claims of abuse that don’t exist.
That’s directed at Mr Kiplings mate Pat.

[Awaywego]

Your right Deerey I couldn’t locate it again, that made me click on people and found David White joined that day and showed no posts, only the answers That you alluded to I thought maybe you had done the same.

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The account on Twitter that reached out has disappeared

[CMC]

So one of the Iron Hour has spoken out and the other disappeared off Twitter.

Oh no how sad never mind.

[Xxx]

Siderite wrote:

Ok then. I can ignore such claims of abuse by messaging services or other means if no evidence is given.

p.s. I wasn’t making demands. I was stating if he wants to prove he has had abuse he just needs to show evidence. No evidence means it gets ignored. Funny how those dismissing everything being rumours would accept claims about abuse via messaging without a scrap of evidence.

Hmm

[Awaywego]

And I still can’t find a post by David White life’s a bummer 😞

[Xxx]

Siderite to knows

[Siderite]

On the alcohol tonight, Jerry?

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Xxx, CMC

[Xxx]

Do you want to take me on again you might loose like the last time up to you

[Siderite]

*lose

There are no winners in this situation. Only disgruntled fans, hopeful fans and you trying (and failing) to be a troll

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Xxx

[Xxx]

Not playing then

[Xxx]

X

[Pat O’Cake]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

So, there is no evidence of abuse towards Hilton, only Hilton claiming it without evidence!
Strangely the only people who appear to get angry and challenge others with venom are the Hilton supporters who make these unsubstantiated claims of abuse that don’t exist.
That’s directed at Mr Kiplings mate Pat.

Once again, just because you haven’t seen or heard it does not mean something didn’t happen. Just for the record yes I am a Hilton supporter as at the moment he has given me no reason not to be. I will make my decisions about him based on what he delivers, not rumours from people claiming to be in the know on social media.

[Siderite]

It doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, but fairies could have appeared in my back garden without me knowing. There is no evidence presented for such abuse, so it can be dismissed as a rumour until proven otherwise.

[sufc_not_on_tour]

Pat O’Cake wrote:

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

So, there is no evidence of abuse towards Hilton, only Hilton claiming it without evidence!
Strangely the only people who appear to get angry and challenge others with venom are the Hilton supporters who make these unsubstantiated claims of abuse that don’t exist.
That’s directed at Mr Kiplings mate Pat.

Once again, just because you haven’t seen or heard it does not mean something didn’t happen. Just for the record yes I am a Hilton supporter as at the moment he has given me no reason not to be. I will make my decisions about him based on what he delivers, not rumours from people claiming to be in the know on social media.

Still trotting out the same hyperbole without addressing the questions asked.
It was YOU who claimed Hilton was receiving abuse via private messages but you either can’t or wont offer any evidence!
it was YOU who appeared to lose your temper and aim abuse at anyone on the forum who politely asked for evidence of this abuse towards Hilton.
I suspect this claim of Hilton not feeling wanted by the fans of Scunthorpe United and this abuse he and people like you are claiming but can’t or won’t provide evidence of is in fact his pre-emptive exit strategy.

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[Deereyme66]

Not sure about an exit strategy given the amount of players he’s signing. Though his recent comment ‘my patience is wearing thin’ would either suggest that or some sort action against the sceptics. What form that could take, who knows?

[Iron-awe]

Wasn’t it that David White posting about patience wearing thing, didn’t think DH was involved 🤔

[TheJuryeffsOut]

Hilton is doing what he’s doing, whether anyone agrees or disagrees,he owns the club so that is that. Unfortunately Coolsilk Ltd own the ground and they are doing whatever they want to do and that is that.
It does seem to me that he is trying to fall out with anyone who doesn’t give 100% support to his way which does make me think he’s looking for an easy way to walk off.
Unless they are all just made up people on social media who don’t really exist 😬

[Awaywego]

No Ironawe it was “A”David White, not the David White that joined tuther site on the 6th of June from what I can see.

[sufc_not_on_tour]

Awaywego wrote:

No Ironawe it was “A”David White, not the David White that joined tuther site on the 6th of June from what I can see.

It’s been confirmed that the David White on Facebook is in fact David Hilton, he registered his Facebook account originally before his name change by deed poll.
He only recently joined the fans group, which is where the confusion lies.

[Iron-awe]

Awaywego wrote:

No Ironawe it was “A”David White, not the David White that joined tuther site on the 6th of June from what I can see.

Thanks for explaining that Awaywego, I thought for a minute DH had morphed into Batman, you know Bruce Wayne by day Batman by night. Thought we might spot David White leaping over the rooftops of Scunny at night, shouting ” my patience is wearing thin ” at the assembled masses ( all three of them ) below on the pavement.

[Awaywego]

Lets hope he’s not the Batman in the wardrobe urban myth😂 “nana nan Batman” lol.

[Deereyme66]

Have you two morphed in to Beavis & Butthead?

[Iron-awe]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Have you two morphed in to Beavis & Butthead?

Are they two of our latest signings 🤔

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Awaywego

[Deereyme66]

That’s a ‘yes’ then

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Awaywego

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Siderite wrote:

It doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, but fairies could have appeared in my back garden without me knowing. There is no evidence presented for such abuse, so it can be dismissed as a rumour until proven otherwise.

so you have fairies around you hmm

[Pat O’Cake]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Pat O’Cake wrote:

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

So, there is no evidence of abuse towards Hilton, only Hilton claiming it without evidence!
Strangely the only people who appear to get angry and challenge others with venom are the Hilton supporters who make these unsubstantiated claims of abuse that don’t exist.
That’s directed at Mr Kiplings mate Pat.

Once again, just because you haven’t seen or heard it does not mean something didn’t happen. Just for the record yes I am a Hilton supporter as at the moment he has given me no reason not to be. I will make my decisions about him based on what he delivers, not rumours from people claiming to be in the know on social media.

Still trotting out the same hyperbole without addressing the questions asked.
It was YOU who claimed Hilton was receiving abuse via private messages but you either can’t or wont offer any evidence!
it was YOU who appeared to lose your temper and aim abuse at anyone on the forum who politely asked for evidence of this abuse towards Hilton.
I suspect this claim of Hilton not feeling wanted by the fans of Scunthorpe United and this abuse he and people like you are claiming but can’t or won’t provide evidence of is in fact his pre-emptive exit strategy.

I did not claim anything of the sort!!!! My point is that just because you have not seen or heard it does not mean it is not true, what part of that is so difficult for you to understand??? I don’t know what messages he has or has not received, and guess what, neither do you!!!! You are the one claiming he hasn’t received the abuse, I don’t know either way but I’m not going to accuse him of lying just because I haven’t seen it!

Also I did not lose my temper at all unless you have evidence to prove otherwise, just accept that there are some of us that will reserve judgement based on what this guy delivers, not on rumours from social media from people who claim they have “inside knowledge”.

[Siderite]

Hilton is the one making the claim of abuse; it’s the responsibility of the person making the claim to provide evidence. If he doesn’t provide evidence then such claims can be ignored and not treated as truth. It doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, but it cannot be verified, so I am not going to condemn anyone for abuse as there is no evidence provided.

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