Glebe Road site

[Lord Kitchener]

It’s because they know nowt. Only joined after Mr Hilton took over, and straight into trolling the board.

[iron insider]

i said the deal would not be done and it won’t
i said we will be ground sharing and we will
has this deal gone thru or is it ‘agreed’ and Hilton is ‘contractually obligated’ to complete the deal just like the deal was agreed with swanney

[Northumbiron]

Awaywego wrote:

That’s where I get my brambles and raspberries from let alone the apples hands off scunny,

If the land is contaminated that explains a lot!

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[Deereyme66]

Lord Kitchener wrote:

It’s because they know nowt. Only joined after Mr Hilton took over, and straight into trolling the board.

Lol, did Hilton take over in 2019 then? From what I’ve seen over the last few weeks only Iron Insider seems to make claims and joined in 2019. So far, everything claimed seems to be correct. Unless I’m mistaken?

[Deereyme66]

Ironfan wrote:

Interesting that none of the posters that apparently have “good sources” and “insider information” gave any prior warning of the purchase. Make of that what you will

What purchase? The Glebe Road site? Why? Who officially owns it?

[Interested Bystander]

Is the Glebe plot the former quarry site?

[iron insider]

yes it was a quarry and then land fill

[Interested Bystander]

iron insider wrote:

yes it was a quarry and then land fill

Thank you.

So the Glebe plot is this bit of land – https://yorkshirewarehousing.com/residential-development-land-scunthorpe and the second parcel – https://yorkshirewarehousing.com/industrial-development-land-scunthorpe

[Awaywego]

Must have been a long time ago if it was quarried, in the early seventies it was allotments still, they only landfilled round the edges for the industrial and retail units the last to back fill was the Aldi, still plenty of good fruit there if you can be bothered to pick it.

[Deereyme66]

Is it suitable for lemons? 🍋

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[Awaywego]

You go and pick em up from Gp Deerey and I’ll plant em, mick will provide the man u re he likes a bit of man ure it’s his favorite.

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Deereyme66

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

I don’t expect a stadium to be built there InterstedBystander

The fact we’ve erected 2 big shiny signs on the fence today suggests it’s a negotiating tactic to bring Swann back to the table.

If Swann calls Hilton’s bluff in 2 weeks time, this could get messy

[Interested Bystander]

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

I don’t expect a stadium to be built there InterstedBystander

The fact we’ve erected 2 big shiny signs on the fence today suggests it’s a negotiating tactic to bring Swann back to the table.

If Swann calls Hilton’s bluff in 2 weeks time, this could get messy

I agree. As I said earlier, Hilton’s flexing.

A question for tomorrow night- Who have you acquired the land from, what is the title number for both parcels of land and when was the transaction completed?

What are your thoughts on Simon Elliott acting as Hilton’s mouthpiece? I have warned against this previously, pointing out that both the club and Hilton have a voice.

[Deereyme66]

If that’s the case Cliff, why did you post ‘ground’ earlier? Some people are targeting other posters for posting rumours and conspiracy theories but in all fairness, you seem to be doing no different?

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Nothing wrong with Simon voicing an opinion, he has no formal capacity at the club as far as I’m aware so he can post what he likes.

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[Deereyme66]

‘If Swann calls Hilton’s bluff in 2 weeks time, this could get messy’. Well if that’s what he’s trying, I think he’s about as much chance of that succeeding as the 1899 club.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Deereyme66 wrote:

If that’s the case Cliff, why did you post ‘ground’ earlier? Some people are targeting other posters for posting rumours and conspiracy theories but in all fairness, you seem to be doing no different?

Rumours and conspiracy theories have no evidence to back them up; See transfer embargo, or Ilkeston Iron for a couple
Of recent ones.

Siderite asked if the land was acquired was for training pitches- it was ‘acquired’ for a possible location of a ground in the future. No conspiracy theory there?

My opinion- not a rumour- is that the deal is More of a contingency plan for the future if the deal does collapse , and also for Hilton to be in a stronger negotiating position

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Deereyme66

[WonderGoals]

Surely for us to have plaques on these sites stating we’ve acquired the land , they are telling people exactly that, Hilton has purchased both sites.

According to Simon Elliot he was told that the sites are not to be used as training grounds so who knows what’s going on ?

By law there is no way on planet earth plaques would be up at both sites if Hilton hadn’t agreed a deal for both plots ?

We can’t surely have signs up if they have not actually been acquired. That’s illegal, surely ?

Strange thing is that if one of those plots weren’t bought for us as a training ground…what the hell were they bought for ?. If this is indeed legit you can imagine one as a plot for a ground but what the hell would the other be for ?

[Deereyme66]

Is that official then Cliff? It’s for a possible new ground and not just training pitches? Not a big deal to me it is or isn’t as hopefully we’ll hear what Hilton says about it soon enough I guess. It’s other people who’ve been frustrated and abusing / insulting other posters about this sort of speculation, calling for bans etc. Unwarranted in my opinion.

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Heath

[mistertonmick]

You would think it would cost a lot more to build a new stadium than purchase Glanford Park

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[Deereyme66]

More questions than answers there WG, and understandably so.

[Deereyme66]

All very confusing this. I thought Hilton said the reason for the takeover for the stadium and land taking till end of May was due to legal processes and checks etc? So I can only assume there was a problem identified along that process and not a financial issue? I expect we’ll have full clarification tomorrow night. Should clear up a lot of confusion.

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[Northumbiron]

WonderGoals wrote:

If this is indeed legit you can imagine one as a plot for a ground but what the hell would the other be for?

Car parking?

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Deereyme66 wrote:

All very confusing this. I thought Hilton said the reason for the takeover for the stadium and land taking till end of May was due to legal processes and checks etc? So I can only assume there was a problem identified along that process and not a financial issue? I expect we’ll have full clarification tomorrow night. Should clear up a lot of confusion.

I don’t think you’re far off the mark there.

Worth remembering this deal was rushed through to save the football club. There was nothing left in the pot and we were going bust.

Due diligence has been done the wrong way round but that was the position Hilton was in.

Hopefully tomorrow is the start of some honest dialogue between the club and supporters. The amount of NDA’s surrounding the club is probably the biggest culprit to why we are all paranoid wrecks.

[Deereyme66]

As an aside, was the top end of Ashby Ville playing fields ever considered as a possible new ground site when moving out the OSG? Can’t remember if it was or not.

[Deereyme66]

‘The amount of NDA’s surrounding the club is probably the biggest culprit to why we are all paranoid wrecks.’

I’d say ‘possibly’. Not sure I’d go so far as ‘probably’ :)

[lesgeo]

Do we know what relationship exists between Hilton and PS?
It is not too much of a longshot to believe that a rather different deal may have been struck.
Only time will tell but what if PS has agreed for our continued use of GP until a putative new stadium is ready for action?
Quis bono?
There would surely be a considerable financial benefit to PS by him being totally freed to use the GP land for his own purposes – perhaps 18 months down the line.
I dunno. But it’s a scenario to be considered.

[ironfromafar]

Interested Bystander wrote:

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

I don’t expect a stadium to be built there InterstedBystander

The fact we’ve erected 2 big shiny signs on the fence today suggests it’s a negotiating tactic to bring Swann back to the table.

If Swann calls Hilton’s bluff in 2 weeks time, this could get messy

I agree. As I said earlier, Hilton’s flexing.

A question for tomorrow night- Who have you acquired the land from, what is the title number for both parcels of land and when was the transaction completed?

What are your thoughts on Simon Elliott acting as Hilton’s mouthpiece? I have warned against this previously, pointing out that both the club and Hilton have a voice.

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Nothing wrong with Simon voicing an opinion, he has no formal capacity at the club as far as I’m aware so he can post what he likes.

AGREE … oh and Hilton did say in a past interview maybe the ironarmy podcast that Simon was in talks re getting involved and Hilton welcomed that.

[Anonymous]

Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg wrote:

Deereyme66 wrote:

If that’s the case Cliff, why did you post ‘ground’ earlier? Some people are targeting other posters for posting rumours and conspiracy theories but in all fairness, you seem to be doing no different?

Rumours and conspiracy theories have no evidence to back them up; See transfer embargo, or Ilkeston Iron for a couple
Of recent ones.

Siderite asked if the land was acquired was for training pitches- it was ‘acquired’ for a possible location of a ground in the future. No conspiracy theory there?

My opinion- not a rumour- is that the deal is More of a contingency plan for the future if the deal does collapse , and also for Hilton to be in a stronger negotiating position

Would that mean we’d have two Scunthorpe teams.

Swann’s SUFC @ GP

Hilton’s Scunthorpe Spartans down the allotment, tip, quarry.

[Anonymous]

WonderGoals wrote:

Surely for us to have plaques on these sites stating we’ve acquired the land , they are telling people exactly that, Hilton has purchased both sites.

According to Simon Elliot he was told that the sites are not to be used as training grounds so who knows what’s going on ?

By law there is no way on planet earth plaques would be up at both sites if Hilton hadn’t agreed a deal for both plots ?

We can’t surely have signs up if they have not actually been acquired. That’s illegal, surely ?

Strange thing is that if one of those plots weren’t bought for us as a training ground…what the hell were they bought for ?. If this is indeed legit you can imagine one as a plot for a ground but what the hell would the other be for ?

Purchased or renting?

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