Get ready for Johnson 2.0

[Siderite]

The idea that Biden is ultra-left is hilarious and only made by people whose view of the world is skewed by a heavy right wing bias, with a belief that anyone to the left of Regan is a pinko commie.

Actual ultra-leftists hate Biden and see him as a capitalist shill.

[Iron-awe]

Spot on Siderite, Biden is definitely viewed as a centrist by the majority of political commentators in the USA, the loony Trump however refers to Biden as Socialist and sometimes a Communist but Trump is regarded as a desperate man blaming anybody for America’s woes whilst desperately trying to evade the prosecution’s that are closing in on several sides. Being a billionaire he can however buy himself a lot of time with endless stalling tactics from his army of lawyers but his best chance is hoping for a midterm mandate in congress and then get the January 6th committee disbanded. They have landed several blows on him already and of course the FBI case regarding his illegal possession of state documents is building all the time and there is the courts pursuit of his illegal business practices which are also gathering pace. Let’s not forget his attempt to overturn the result in Georgia during the 2020 election plus constantly repeating his false narrative that the whole election was stolen from him despite not producing any evidence that has stood up in any USA court to date. Should be an interesting few months to come in America after the mid terms, let’s see how stupid the USA really gets.

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[Bucksiron]

Ah, yes, of course, how silly of me. Joe Biden doesn’t wear a Mao Tse Tung boiler suit, have a Lenin goatie or smoke a big cigar. How could he possibly be ‘ultra-left’?

Jeez, this is the USA we’re talking about, not the 1930s Soviet Union. The idea that Biden isn’t ultra-left really is hilarious and only made by people whose opinion of the world is skewed by stereotypical views of Joe Stalin, not Joe Biden, as president. As for claiming Biden’s a ‘centrist’, well, the US media have certainly managed to fool you lot — and that does include you, Siderite.

Yes, the next few months will be very interesting. It’s extraordinary to think that Trump could stand even the remotest chance of getting back to the White House, but Joe’s doing everything he can to make the impossible possible.

[Deereyme66]

A lot of straw manning in the first 2 paragraphs. Siderite might want to think twice about wasting his energy on pointing it to you. Is it possible for you to have a civilised discussion on here without resorting to this form Bucks?

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[Siderite]

I love how Bucks gets irate at me saying how his ideas are ridiculous, while saying the same back and expecting to be taken as some sage voice of wisdom.

Anyone who thinks Biden is some ultra leftist is bonkers and has no clue as to what left wing politics actually is, frankly. The only one who has been fooled is Bucks, by his own ideological blindness.

64, who is further to the left, must be guffawing at the idea of Biden as a raging ultra-lefty. As would any actual strong leftist. This is just the inverse of lefties calling anyone to the right of Tony Benn a fascist. To Bucks, anyone to the left of Cameron is a raging pinko commie. What next? Tony Blair the ultra leftist? Biden is hardly greatly to the left of him. Anyone who thinks otherwise is blinded by their own tribal dogma.

It’s amusing how Bucks wails about others demonising Tories while demonising others. Hypocrisy at its finest and a perfect example while debate is not possible.

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[Siderite]

Also, Mao supporters are the ultra left. If you acknowledge Biden isn’t among them, it’s a tacit admission you were bullshitting when calling Biden such. Otherwise I might as well call Truss an ultra rightist and excuse it that I don’t mean she was like neo-Nazis.

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[Northumbiron]

Trump doesn’t have a toothbrush moustache or a completely shaved head, so he can’t be far right!

[Deereyme66]

‘You’re right there Ted…’

[64]

I am left of centre in my opinion I believe utilities and public transport should be in house,but see the benefits of private enterprise,profit is a great driver in tech especially.
Taxes should be higher perfcentages ,we’d all pay a bit more but get better services and those eat the top taking the “$$433 right now would be paying more but not punitively,they will never go without super luxuries.
Business taxes should be non negotiable for these huge corporations and profits on sales made in this country should be taxed accordingly I am sure the tech is there to stop them hiding profits.
I don’t see anything radically left about that tbh.

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[64]

PS biden would be a tory in UK,our center has move to the right in the US the idea of public companies is communism

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[Iron-awe]

Biden would deffo be a Tory of some shade in this country, Buck’s might think he knows best but his lack of knowledge of the American political system and how it works is apparent in the naivety of his posts on the subject. To suggest otherwise would be completely preposterous.

[Siderite]

Hmmmm. I am not so sure. He would probably fit in with the Lib Dems and moderate Labour, but none of these are ultra-left outside of the skewed libertarian right bubble which sees reds under every bed.

[64]

Self proclaimed moderate,

[Siderite]

Do they need to pal around with the Cuba solidarity mob to be a moderate in your eyes?:-)

[64]

Of course,We’re all commies who don’t bow down to St Kier and his oh so moderate ways

[Siderite]

Sarcasm might work there if those you support didn’t pal around with the Cuban solidarity movement. ;-)

[Bucksiron]

Well, by these definitions many in the Labour party would be communists, so maybe you’re right after all.

[Siderite]

You note I didn’t use the term communist. However, the idea that Biden is in league with the Cuban solidarity lot is still hilarious.

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